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curious_moo Master	14-May-2019 10:38        curious_moo About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i think you got the same misunderstanding as  1035834  refer to my reply to him lol... beng1102      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:36) Posted: Both buyer and seller could arrange to transfer cash vs share.    Share transfer cen be effected from cdp.  If custodian is involved then custodian will make sure cash/share (DVP) transfer happen at the same time or in the safe  manner. curious_moo      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:26) Posted: im not even certain if the so called " offline buy/sell mentioned here are legit lol. saw someone here mentioning theres a demand to buy back shorts at 1.60 to 1.70 region? lol.. i really wonder
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curious_moo Master	14-May-2019 10:37        curious_moo About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	the only fundamental issue here is the business model, which keeps getting questioned since pubilc/online awareness/interest does not entirely match revenue. and they are afraid all these revenue are simply coming from the MLM ( and lrepeated purchases from sales rep) as well as large purchases from controlled " independent" agents under the franchise model now. money has always been real, im guess nobody ever doubted that part. not sure why pple keep mentioning about this point to bolster that there is no issue with BWL.. Shifu8888      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:27) Posted: The MAIN PROBLEM for both short-sellers is that the cash at bank of $170m in BW is real. They had been distributing cash dividends every year. Their NTA per share is not high due to cash being distributed consistently (retained earnings drawn down to give dividends). Loan at $1.4m. Also they NEVER raise funds from equity (new shares, warrants of rights) or debt instruments (bonds). Nothing fundamentally wrong. Sgx is actually (protecting) bw by suspending it. Clear the shitty and this time round, shortists may be burn real hard.
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beng1102 Elite	14-May-2019 10:36        beng1102 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Both buyer and seller could arrange to transfer cash vs share.    Share transfer cen be effected from cdp.  If custodian is involved then custodian will make sure cash/share (DVP) transfer happen at the same time or in the safe  manner. curious_moo      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:26) Posted: im not even certain if the so called " offline buy/sell mentioned here are legit lol. saw someone here mentioning theres a demand to buy back shorts at 1.60 to 1.70 region? lol.. i really wonder~ beng1102      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:16) Posted: Why suddenly so many are keen to buy.  Many said that price would drop to $0.30  and now are buying from the off-market.  It makes me feel that many are runners of the BR.  Perhaps BR is now in the hurry to backup and return the shares as the on-coming news could mean bad news to BR.    As the founder had sued BR, it is a matter of time the record books of sales records would be opened for verification, so SGX investigation on the sales is no different.  It would likely reveal that the sales has been  lawful
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1035834 Senior	14-May-2019 10:35        1035834 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	At least 3 months just able to resume trading ， now talk any also no use , the key will be investigation report curious_moo      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:33) Posted: i think u misunderstood, im questioning if its " legit" posts, never mentioned anything about if its " legal" . what im saying is im not sure those posting here are talking abt real deals that is happening, or just a way to influence pple into longing/shorting when trade resumes.   1035834      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:30) Posted: you can call your broker to explain to you. it is legal way to close those uncovered naked selling but higher cost of transfer
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curious_moo Master	14-May-2019 10:33        curious_moo About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i think u misunderstood, im questioning if its " legit" posts, never mentioned anything about if its " legal" . what im saying is im not sure those posting here are talking abt real deals that is happening, or just a way to influence pple into longing/shorting when trade resumes.   1035834      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:30) Posted: you can call your broker to explain to you. it is legal way to close those uncovered naked selling but higher cost of transfer  curious_moo      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:26) Posted: im not even certain if the so called " offline buy/sell mentioned here are legit lol. saw someone here mentioning theres a demand to buy back shorts at 1.60 to 1.70 region? lol.. i really wonder
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1035834 Senior	14-May-2019 10:30        1035834 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	you can call your broker to explain to you. it is legal way to close those uncovered naked selling but higher cost of transfer  curious_moo      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:26) Posted: im not even certain if the so called " offline buy/sell mentioned here are legit lol. saw someone here mentioning theres a demand to buy back shorts at 1.60 to 1.70 region? lol.. i really wonder~ beng1102      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:16) Posted: Why suddenly so many are keen to buy.  Many said that price would drop to $0.30  and now are buying from the off-market.  It makes me feel that many are runners of the BR.  Perhaps BR is now in the hurry to backup and return the shares as the on-coming news could mean bad news to BR.    As the founder had sued BR, it is a matter of time the record books of sales records would be opened for verification, so SGX investigation on the sales is no different.  It would likely reveal that the sales has been  lawful
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Shifu8888 Supreme	14-May-2019 10:27        Shifu8888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The MAIN PROBLEM for both short-sellers is that the cash at bank of $170m in BW is real. They had been distributing cash dividends every year. Their NTA per share is not high due to cash being distributed consistently (retained earnings drawn down to give dividends). Loan at $1.4m. Also they NEVER raise funds from equity (new shares, warrants of rights) or debt instruments (bonds). Nothing fundamentally wrong. Sgx is actually (protecting) bw by suspending it. Clear the shitty and this time round, shortists may be burn real hard.
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curious_moo Master	14-May-2019 10:26        curious_moo About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	im not even certain if the so called " offline buy/sell mentioned here are legit lol. saw someone here mentioning theres a demand to buy back shorts at 1.60 to 1.70 region? lol.. i really wonder~ beng1102      ( Date: 14-May-2019 10:16) Posted: Why suddenly so many are keen to buy.  Many said that price would drop to $0.30  and now are buying from the off-market.  It makes me feel that many are runners of the BR.  Perhaps BR is now in the hurry to backup and return the shares as the on-coming news could mean bad news to BR.    As the founder had sued BR, it is a matter of time the record books of sales records would be opened for verification, so SGX investigation on the sales is no different.  It would likely reveal that the sales has been  lawful. 1035834      ( Date: 14-May-2019 09:52) Posted: the cdp not able to buying as account suspense already , those need covered , need to look for their own seller to transfer the share to them.
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beng1102 Elite	14-May-2019 10:16        beng1102 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why suddenly so many are keen to buy.  Many said that price would drop to $0.30  and now are buying from the off-market.  It makes me feel that many are runners of the BR.  Perhaps BR is now in the hurry to backup and return the shares as the on-coming news could mean bad news to BR.    As the founder had sued BR, it is a matter of time the record books of sales records would be opened for verification, so SGX investigation on the sales is no different.  It would likely reveal that the sales has been  lawful. 1035834      ( Date: 14-May-2019 09:52) Posted: the cdp not able to buying as account suspense already , those need covered , need to look for their own seller to transfer the share to them.   zillion      ( Date: 14-May-2019 09:27) Posted: All short positions already squared. Look at the list of buy in counters BW no longer there.
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1035834 Senior	14-May-2019 09:52        1035834 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	the cdp not able to buying as account suspense already , those need covered , need to look for their own seller to transfer the share to them.   zillion      ( Date: 14-May-2019 09:27) Posted: All short positions already squared. Look at the list of buy in counters BW no longer there.
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Operator81 Senior	14-May-2019 09:42        Operator81 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This morning in his wet dreams. softdrink      ( Date: 14-May-2019 09:22) Posted: Oh really? Haha! Good for you! You sure you got the price correct? Cover shorts at $1.60-$1.70? Haha! Keep all you want. There is limited short covering vs those holding on to the scripts. I am sure there will be people waiting to load off their scripts! 1035834      ( Date: 14-May-2019 09:10) Posted: THIS MORNING MY BROKER ALSO CALLED ME SAID GOT DESPERATE NAKED SELLER NEED COVER THEIR SHORT POSITION, RANGE AROUND 1.60-1.70...I SAID I RATHER KEEP IT FOR ATTENDING AGM AS MORE EXCITED SHOW WILL BE THERE
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zillion Master	14-May-2019 09:27        zillion About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	All short positions already squared. Look at the list of buy in counters BW no longer there.
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1035834 Senior	14-May-2019 09:26        1035834 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Correct la , compared to 5k penalty, some will pay more to cover their ass . I don&rsquo t have many share , so just keep it for attending AGM softdrink      ( Date: 14-May-2019 09:22) Posted: Oh really? Haha! Good for you! You sure you got the price correct? Cover shorts at $1.60-$1.70? Haha! Keep all you want. There is limited short covering vs those holding on to the scripts. I am sure there will be people waiting to load off their scripts! 1035834      ( Date: 14-May-2019 09:10) Posted: THIS MORNING MY BROKER ALSO CALLED ME SAID GOT DESPERATE NAKED SELLER NEED COVER THEIR SHORT POSITION, RANGE AROUND 1.60-1.70...I SAID I RATHER KEEP IT FOR ATTENDING AGM AS MORE EXCITED SHOW WILL BE THERE
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softdrink Member	14-May-2019 09:22        softdrink About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oh really? Haha! Good for you! You sure you got the price correct? Cover shorts at $1.60-$1.70? Haha! Keep all you want. There is limited short covering vs those holding on to the scripts. I am sure there will be people waiting to load off their scripts! 1035834      ( Date: 14-May-2019 09:10) Posted: THIS MORNING MY BROKER ALSO CALLED ME SAID GOT DESPERATE NAKED SELLER NEED COVER THEIR SHORT POSITION, RANGE AROUND 1.60-1.70...I SAID I RATHER KEEP IT FOR ATTENDING AGM AS MORE EXCITED SHOW WILL BE THERE
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1035834 Senior	14-May-2019 09:19        1035834 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My point of view just keep for another month , penalty will let those naked beg you to sell at better price
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Operator81 Senior	14-May-2019 09:15        Operator81 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You borrowed scrip to sell? Now trying to lock in profit? like2learn      ( Date: 13-May-2019 23:01) Posted: hmmm, i m also interested to buy, if the process is legal(i dun mind checking with cdp) and we can settle on the price. i did not short, so the purpose is not to buy back but to add to existing holdings. do give priority to those who urgently need like cover short, i will continue to 忍 . cash ready too. anyone ? bwavep      ( Date: 13-May-2019 22:20) Posted: truly?  no shortage of sellers willing to discuss....
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Sin_Cos_Tan Veteran	14-May-2019 09:13        Sin_Cos_Tan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	承 认 总 裁 与 长 沙 公 司 唯 一 股 东 亲 属 关 系 全 美 世 界 在 华 商 务 新 交 所 严 重 关 注 发 布 /2019年 5月 14日 3:30 AM http://www.zaobao.com.sg/zfinance/news/story20190514-956352   Sin_Cos_Tan      ( Date: 14-May-2019 09:01) Posted: 新 交 所 监 管 公 司 向 全 美 世 界 发 出 遵 循 通 知 更 新 /2019年 5月 13日 6:23 PM （ 早 报 讯 ） 新 加 坡 交 易 所 监 管 公 司 向 全 美 世 界 （ Best World） 发 出 遵 循 通 知 （ Notice of Compliance） ， 表 示 严 重 关 注 后 者 在 中 国 的 销 售 和 经 商 情 况 。 监 管 公 司 在 通 知 当 中 说 ： 全 美 世 界 总 裁 与 长 沙 百 世 特 威 之 间 关 系 的 揭 露 ， 使 到 集 团 2015至 2018财 年 在 出 口 模 式 下 取 得 的 中 国 销 售 的 准 确 性 、 以 及 集 团 是 否 是 在 正 常 商 业 条 件 下 经 商 ， 引 发 严 重 关 注 。 监 管 公 司 因 此 要 求 ， 全 美 的 独 立 评 估 师 普 华 永 道 （ PwC） 直 接 向 监 管 公 司 汇 报 独 立 评 估 的 范 畴 和 所 有 结 果 ， 并 且 扩 大 检 讨 的 范 围 ， 评 估 集 团 在 出 口 模 式 下 于 2015至 2018财 年 的 中 国 销 售 准 确 性 ， 以 及 这 些 是 否 是 在 正 常 商 业 条 件 下 进 行 。 此 外 ， 监 管 公 司 要 求 全 美 针 对 集 团 在 特 许 经 营 模 式 下 销 售 和 分 销 业 务 的 合 法 性 ， 获 取 独 立 法 律 意 见 ， 并 要 长 沙 百 世 特 威 和 其 他 进 口 代 理 允 许 独 立 评 估 师 获 取 财 务 信 息 、 会 计 和 企 业 记 录 ， 并 提 供 协 助 ， 例 如 联 络 顾 客 、 仓 库 和 运 送 服 务 业 者 。 全 美 也 要 与 监 管 公 司 及 独 立 评 估 师 全 面 合 作 ， 包 括 提 供 信 息 、 面 谈 、 查 访 等 。 监 管 公 司 说 ： 没 能 满 足 上 述 条 件 将 被 视 为 违 反 上 市 条 规 。
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1035834 Senior	14-May-2019 09:10        1035834 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	THIS MORNING MY BROKER ALSO CALLED ME SAID GOT DESPERATE NAKED SELLER NEED COVER THEIR SHORT POSITION, RANGE AROUND 1.60-1.70...I SAID I RATHER KEEP IT FOR ATTENDING AGM AS MORE EXCITED SHOW WILL BE THERE
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softdrink Member	14-May-2019 09:02        softdrink About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Offer is still valid. Those who wishes to sell their share can PM me for fast cash deal.
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Sin_Cos_Tan Veteran	14-May-2019 09:01        Sin_Cos_Tan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	新 交 所 监 管 公 司 向 全 美 世 界 发 出 遵 循 通 知 更 新 /2019年 5月 13日 6:23 PM （ 早 报 讯 ） 新 加 坡 交 易 所 监 管 公 司 向 全 美 世 界 （ Best World） 发 出 遵 循 通 知 （ Notice of Compliance） ， 表 示 严 重 关 注 后 者 在 中 国 的 销 售 和 经 商 情 况 。 监 管 公 司 在 通 知 当 中 说 ： 全 美 世 界 总 裁 与 长 沙 百 世 特 威 之 间 关 系 的 揭 露 ， 使 到 集 团 2015至 2018财 年 在 出 口 模 式 下 取 得 的 中 国 销 售 的 准 确 性 、 以 及 集 团 是 否 是 在 正 常 商 业 条 件 下 经 商 ， 引 发 严 重 关 注 。 监 管 公 司 因 此 要 求 ， 全 美 的 独 立 评 估 师 普 华 永 道 （ PwC） 直 接 向 监 管 公 司 汇 报 独 立 评 估 的 范 畴 和 所 有 结 果 ， 并 且 扩 大 检 讨 的 范 围 ， 评 估 集 团 在 出 口 模 式 下 于 2015至 2018财 年 的 中 国 销 售 准 确 性 ， 以 及 这 些 是 否 是 在 正 常 商 业 条 件 下 进 行 。 此 外 ， 监 管 公 司 要 求 全 美 针 对 集 团 在 特 许 经 营 模 式 下 销 售 和 分 销 业 务 的 合 法 性 ， 获 取 独 立 法 律 意 见 ， 并 要 长 沙 百 世 特 威 和 其 他 进 口 代 理 允 许 独 立 评 估 师 获 取 财 务 信 息 、 会 计 和 企 业 记 录 ， 并 提 供 协 助 ， 例 如 联 络 顾 客 、 仓 库 和 运 送 服 务 业 者 。 全 美 也 要 与 监 管 公 司 及 独 立 评 估 师 全 面 合 作 ， 包 括 提 供 信 息 、 面 谈 、 查 访 等 。 监 管 公 司 说 ： 没 能 满 足 上 述 条 件 将 被 视 为 违 反 上 市 条 规 。
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