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COMFORT DELGRO - MOVING FORWARD
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kiseki_2818
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12-Sep-2022 14:17
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seem like settle down a bit, time to get back the bbs short, target in 2 wk back to  above 1.40. get a bit at 1.38. auto-mode.   |
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Conman
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08-Sep-2022 18:19
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Same story repeated again today. The BBs looked so desperate but please dont pity them. Let them be fired by their investment banks or securities firms and become taxi drivers 🤣
I dont think they have the gits to build a buy queue at 1.39 or they will get dumped or shorted at. But please monitor the 1.37 flood gate in case it gives way when you are taking only 3 minutes to bomb 🙄 |
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Conman
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07-Sep-2022 21:03
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This was the price BB was sellong today, which is D-8. Monday and Tuesday BB was selling 1.38.
Whether 1.37 is good price for the retailers depends on whether BB was selling or buying at this price.
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vivacious
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07-Sep-2022 18:39
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137 gd price leh | ||
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jackass
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07-Sep-2022 13:28
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this is all part of the game plan  Comfortdelgro will be acquired by Grab in the next few years Grab will raise rights issue to raise cash for the buy-out Both Comfortdelgro and Grab share holders will uplorry Rank and file employees will continue their lives as per usual   
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erhaier
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07-Sep-2022 13:16
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please change title of this thread to --- moving backward.   |
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Conman
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07-Sep-2022 11:34
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Joelton you wrote this? Your Engrish so so good!
I like the last 3 lines. 🤪 🤪 🤪
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Conman
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07-Sep-2022 09:26
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When the flood gate at 1.37 gives way, we will see the BBs running without their underwears 🤣 | ||
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tongphlp
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07-Sep-2022 08:47
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no issue...they start selling their taxis which are parked there for ages and not taken up by cab drivers...
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ssw518
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07-Sep-2022 08:18
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With effect from  16th Sept 2022 (end of day), the margin requirements for  ComfortDelGro  will be increased from 10% to 20% due to its exclusion from the STI | ||
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Conman
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07-Sep-2022 00:47
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Likely that this BB lost big, Guru 😅 | ||
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Entropy72
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06-Sep-2022 23:43
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CIMB
Singapore Market Strategy - Inclusion Of Emperador Into The Straits Times Index Emperador (SGX:EMI) will replace ComfortDelGro (SGX:C52) in the Straits Times Index (STI) by FTSE Russell, with effect from 19 Sep. We think the market could be surprised by this, as focus had always been on the top-40 market cap companies and the reserve list. Emperador?s market cap of S$8.3bn (22 Aug) could have helped the company bypass the reserve list and straight into the STI. One of the ground rules for STI inclusion stated that ?a company will be inserted into the STI at the quarterly review if it rises to 20th position or above when the eligible securities are ranked by full market capitalisation (before the application of any investability weightings).? As of end-Aug 2022, STI ETFs had S$2.2bn worth of AUM. ComfortDelGro's 0.94% constituent weight would translate into S$21m of passive outflow, or 2.4x ADTV (Average Daily Trading Volume). Emperador?s free float of 15.1%, just passed the 15% requirement for inclusion. we estimate Emperador to hold a constituent weight of 0.39% upon inclusion, which could translate into passive inflow worth 3.2x ADTV, or S$2.74m. While STI exclusion could put pressure on ComfortDelGro?s near-term share price, we see support at S$1.36, based on 13.1x FY23F P/E (2 standard deviation below its 5-year historical mean). We reiterate our ADD call on ComfortDelGro, as we expect further earnings recovery in coming quarters, driven by: improved monetisation of its Singapore taxi business, higher rail ridership, and increased charter activities as tourism recovers. ComfortDelGro also offers an attractive dividend yield of 5.9%. Emperador recently completed its secondary listing on the SGX mainboard in Jul. Based on Bloomberg consensus, Emperador's share price trades at 25.6x FY23F P/E (1.4 standard deviation above its 5-year historical mean). Following ComfortDelGro?s deletion, Keppel DC REIT (SGX:AJBU) is now ranked the lowest by market cap among STI constituents. The STI reserve list (in order of size) is Olam (SGX:VC2), Suntec REIT (SGX:T82U), Keppel REIT (SGX:K71U), Frasers Centrepoint Trust (SGX:J69U) and Ascott Residence Trust (SGX:HMN) (new). |
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Conman
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06-Sep-2022 17:55
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Because there are still FOMO uncles willing to buy high (1.38), BBs created a buy queue for them to join in while BBs discreetly sold to them in small quantities (so as not to cause the buy queue to collapse) the whole day.
I didnt have the time to monitor but if you see people pulling out of the queue and then rejoining to queue behind then we know they are selling not buying. BBs of course want to sell high. And because they know many uncles are queuing at 1.30 to 1.36, price will not drop as long as there are uncles willing to buy high. |
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Joelton
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06-Sep-2022 09:25
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Emperador&rsquo s inclusion in the STI makes the benchmark index even more international
 
THE displacement of ComfortDelGro : C52 0% from the Straits Times Index (STI) by Philippines-based liquor giant Emperador : EMI +0.98% marks another step towards internationalisation for the market barometer.
 
The change was somewhat expected, having been flagged as early as April this year by analyst Brian Freitas of Periscope Analytics, who publishes on Smartkarma.
 
Emperador&rsquo s inclusion also fits within a broader trend of large international companies displacing local names on the blue chip index in recent years. 
 
In 2016, offshore and marine group Sembcorp Marine : S51 0% was dropped in favour of conglomerate Jardine Matheson Holdings : J36 -1.24%. A year later, aerospace engineering specialist SIA Engineering : S59 -0.82% was replaced by now-delisted conglomerate Jardine Strategic Holdings.
 
The two Jardines had previously been part of the STI, but were dropped in 2015 due to liquidity requirements.
 
DFI Retail Group : D01 -1.48%, a grocery store operator that is also part of the Jardine Group, replaced StarHub : CC3 0% on the STI in 2018.
 
Apart from the Hong Kong-headquartered Jardines &ndash which are primary listed in London &ndash the STI also includes Thailand&rsquo s Thai Beverage : Y92 -0.79% and Chinese shipbuilder Yangzijiang Shipbuilding : BS6 0%, which is incorporated in Singapore
 
With Emperador joining the index later this month, the STI now adds exposure to a large Philippines company. This also means that 20 per cent of the STI constituents hail from beyond Singapore&rsquo s shores.
 
Is the sizable proportion of foreign constituents on Singapore&rsquo s capital markets barometer a good thing? What are the implications for those who want to use the index for exposure to the performance of the local economy?
 
An international exchange
 
It isn&rsquo t surprising for the STI to have such broad foreign representation among its constituents, given that SGX has pitched itself as &ldquo Asia&rsquo s most international exchange&rdquo . 
 
The bourse operator&rsquo s website also shows that around 40 per cent of the companies listed on the exchange come from overseas.
 
Under the STI ground rules, a security that is listed on the SGX Mainboard will be considered Singaporean in nationality and therefore eligible for the STI (subject to conforming to all other eligibility criteria).
 
With that context in mind, it would make sense for the STI &ndash being a market barometer, rather than an economic barometer &ndash to reflect the nature and composition of the local market.
 
The international counters &ndash despite making up a fifth of the constituents &ndash do not actually take up that much of the weightage in the STI, which is market capitalisation-weighted and adjusted for free float.
 
Based on Bloomberg data, the existing foreign STI counters have an index weight of around 9.8 per cent. CGS-CIMB analysts estimated that Emperador could have an index weight of 0.39 per cent upon its inclusion. The overall exposure to foreign constituents would thus be around 10 per cent.
 
This is less than the index weight of each of the 3 local banks, DBS, UOB and OCBC, which range between 11.6 and 19.4 per cent.
 
Meanwhile, real estate investment trust (Reits), which have been also favoured by local investors, also make up a relatively sizable chunk of the index, at 7 of the 30 component counters. These companies collectively make up for around 13.3 per cent of the index weight, Bloomberg data showed.
 
Other local large caps, such as Singtel, Keppel Corp, Wilmar International, and CapitaLand Investment also remain on the index.
 
Investors wanting exclusive exposure to Singapore companies may prefer exposure to the MSCI Singapore Free Index instead. The MSCI Singapore &ndash which is designed to measure the performance of the large- and mid-cap segments of the Singapore market &ndash uses a methodology that takes into account a stock&rsquo s country of incorporation and primary listing to determine stocks for inclusion in the country index.
 
This has resulted in divergence from the STI in certain areas.
 
For one, none of the secondary-listed or foreign-incorporated STI counters are included on the MSCI Singapore. Meanwhile, US-listed Singapore counters such as Grab and Sea are on that index.
 
Both indices still have a high degree of overlap, with more than 80 per cent of the index weights in each index made up of the same companies.
 
It is also worth noting that all the local counters dropped from the STI in recent years aren&rsquo t members of the MSCI Singapore either.
 
ComfortDelGro was dropped from the MSCI Singapore in 2020, along with Sats, Sembcorp Industries and Singapore Press Holdings (SPH), while StarHub was also deleted from that index in 2018.
 
Survival of the largest
 
It is apparent that the companies deleted from the STI in favour of large foreign counters in recent years have underperformed in terms of share price and, as a result, market capitalisation.
 
ComfortDelGro&rsquo s share price, for instance, has slipped 14.3 per cent in the past year, underperforming the 3.8 per cent gain in the STI.
 
SIA Engineering and StarHub shares have also significantly underperformed the STI over the past 5 years, falling 30.7 and 53.6 per cent, respectively, against the 2.2 per cent decline in the index.
 
Likewise, Sembcorp Marine&rsquo s current share price and market capitalisation pale in comparison with when it was an index stock.
 
Index methodology, naturally, plays a determining role in which companies are included and deleted from various indices, which may not always be within a company&rsquo s control. 
 
While there may be merit in indices evolving to track a wider portion of the local equity market, it is also clear that companies need to battle to grow and deliver returns amid stiff competition for investor attention and dollars.
 
The largest company in the STI reserve list, Olam Group : VC2 -0.69%, already had a market capitalisation of S$5.7 billion as at Aug 22, ranking it 25th among eligible securities. If it rises to 20th spot sometime down the road, it would become a part of the STI.
 
Meanwhile, the smallest STI counters &ndash such as Keppel DC Reit : AJBU -1.05%, which is also the worst index performer in the year-to-date &ndash would need to find ways to not slip further. Otherwise, there is the risk of their market capitalisation falling below the 40th position and being booted out from the index.
 
Membership on the STI or any index is not a given, and companies would need to constantly work hard to grow and outshine the competition to retain their place and stay on the radar of investors.
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josephyeo
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05-Sep-2022 20:04
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Share buy back - 82500 shares at 1.37. Total paid - 113,170.5  
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Conman
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05-Sep-2022 17:56
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Thos morning BB tested the demand for 1.39 and the result was none. So it dumped 1.38 at his own buy queue where some FOMO uncles were queuing behind. Closing match again was used to screw those who were trying their luck to buy 'cheap'.
Hence 1.38 is a sell. 1.37 will break when demand at 1.38 dries up. Please DYDD |
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beetlejuice
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05-Sep-2022 10:25
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Yes, will buy at desired price.
Then collect dividends while waiting.
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josephyeo
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05-Sep-2022 10:19
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Price history. 5 year: high - 2.81 done on 9 July 2019 low - 1.31 done on 2020 52 weeks: high - 1.62 done on 8 nov 2022 low - 1.32 done on 10 Jan 2022   |
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beetlejuice
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05-Sep-2022 10:05
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Thanks for sharing.
I will monitor price around 19 Sept.
Will buy if Comfort knee jerk towards mid $1.30.
Price may go lower than covid low BUT business prospect is definitely improving.
So short term price wiggle wiggle shouldn't affect the patient investors.
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josephyeo
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05-Sep-2022 09:40
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I am on queue at 1.36 n1.37. My investment decisions are very simple. I ask the following questions: 1. is the revenue improving? 2. is the profit improving? 3. Is the dividend good? I mean 3% or more 4. would revenue n profit get better going forward? 5. valuation ... acceptable? If answer to above questions are positive, i will put my money there. Different people have different styles in investing. Wise to stick to your own style. Over thinking n over analysing will lead to paralysis. Just sharing my thoughts and feelings.   |
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