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superstartup Supreme	06-May-2021 21:22        superstartup About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Yells: "Enjoy doing Fundamental Research"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No need wave liao. . . Result out. . . Really really lousy compared with street estimates and all the rosy outlook bros here believe in. . . SgYuan      ( Date: 06-May-2021 21:04) Posted: sorry mistake then w5 adjusted 125-8=117
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SgYuan Supreme	06-May-2021 21:04        SgYuan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	sorry mistake then w5 adjusted 125-8=117
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the3nomads Supreme	06-May-2021 20:54        the3nomads About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Tq SgYuan
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SgYuan Supreme	06-May-2021 19:36        SgYuan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	when w4 breakdown  the chance is high to go dn 61.8% level w4 108 breakdown  dn 61.8% 101 px hit 102 now ew didn' t reset yet w4 101 must hold then w5 adjusted 115-8=117
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ss2017. Supreme	06-May-2021 18:29        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Basic protocols when writing a comment. Stick to the counter you would Iike to comment either in positive or negative tone. Better still provide learning lesson for vested members.
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crystalbee Veteran	06-May-2021 17:43        crystalbee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lol....bro Tonyja is too excited over STGT and STA. Locals dun even promote SIA so hard. Anyway thanks to STA for small gain.  Longtermer      ( Date: 06-May-2021 15:54) Posted: Would appreciate if you can post STA related news in that thread. Same for gloves news. Need not spam in all threads.. Thanks tonyja      ( Date: 06-May-2021 15:49) Posted: On this score, STGT is also a better SAFE HAVEN PLAY than supermax besides STA
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Longtermer Elite	06-May-2021 17:14        Longtermer About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Yells: "A disciplined investor is a wealthy investor"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I do. But use the thread to post accordingly. Otherwise, too messy for forumers.. jus a feedback.   tonyja      ( Date: 06-May-2021 16:26) Posted: Don' t tell me you dint invest in STA  Longtermer      ( Date: 06-May-2021 15:54) Posted: Would appreciate if you can post STA related news in that thread. Same for gloves news. Need not spam in all threads.. Thank
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ec0101 Veteran	06-May-2021 16:53        ec0101 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Do what you have to do."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Correct. Those in this thread long enough will have noticed this jesmarnew guy is just a joke. One day call 10 cents, next day say prime for takeover at $2, then another day change again to whatever. Just search for his posts and you' ll already know how credible he is. MTHIT5      ( Date: 06-May-2021 14:46) Posted: Do not  take this jesmarnew  seriously, yesterday just shouted buy at 1.20, after sold, now shout 50c with fake news.
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eric998 Supreme	06-May-2021 16:37        eric998 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	only contras have to worry.. the rest of us collect dividends with the CEO.. if company feel price is undervalued.. can do company share buybacks.. HUAT to all!  shareabc      ( Date: 06-May-2021 16:29) Posted: done is done, collect dividend next week, if price down to 95, buy more to average down
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SgTrader17 Elite	06-May-2021 16:35        SgTrader17 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 2  Alert Admin	Don't worry, government already have plans to place big orders for the products, sure will bounce back and towards target price of $2. I heard from someone, must have confidence. You don't have confidence? ... Big orders means more profits. More profits means more dividends. 6.1% annually. (I hear say lah, just help to spread). ss2017.      ( Date: 06-May-2021 16:07) Posted: Look at the queue set-up. May be tomorrow they will start at 104, drive all the way down to 99.5c?! ETLee8      ( Date: 06-May-2021 15:56) Posted: This has been happening for months already.  Certainly SGX or the broking house is aware, but it is legal lor.
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shareabc Member	06-May-2021 16:29        shareabc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	done is done, collect dividend next week, if price down to 95, buy more to average down
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tonyja Elite	06-May-2021 16:26        tonyja About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Don' t tell me you dint invest in STA  Longtermer      ( Date: 06-May-2021 15:54) Posted: Would appreciate if you can post STA related news in that thread. Same for gloves news. Need not spam in all threads.. Thanks tonyja      ( Date: 06-May-2021 15:49) Posted: On this score, STGT is also a better SAFE HAVEN PLAY than supermax besides STA
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AhTan888 Senior	06-May-2021 16:26        AhTan888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What if the parties involved are the owner themselves? Who have so much share to sell or who dare to short so much? ETLee8      ( Date: 06-May-2021 16:22) Posted: How u know which party is doing this ?  Chng Kay or BBs ? ss2017.      ( Date: 06-May-2021 16:17) Posted: What a company can do is to suspend the counter for a few days in the name of investigation. Find out If any wrong doing?
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AhTan888 Senior	06-May-2021 16:23        AhTan888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Don't look good. Seller is KGI, Taiwan securities firm.
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ETLee8 Master	06-May-2021 16:22        ETLee8 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How u know which party is doing this ?  Chng Kay or BBs ? ss2017.      ( Date: 06-May-2021 16:17) Posted: What a company can do is to suspend the counter for a few days in the name of investigation. Find out If any wrong doing?
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ss2017. Supreme	06-May-2021 16:17        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What a company can do is to suspend the counter for a few days in the name of investigation. Find out If any wrong doing?
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ss2017. Supreme	06-May-2021 16:09        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Does anyone know the meaning of market manipulation, in short?
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ss2017. Supreme	06-May-2021 16:07        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Look at the queue set-up. May be tomorrow they will start at 104, drive all the way down to 99.5c?! ETLee8      ( Date: 06-May-2021 15:56) Posted: This has been happening for months already.  Certainly SGX or the broking house is aware, but it is legal lor.   shareabc      ( Date: 06-May-2021 15:42) Posted: buy volunm 100k at 1.03 vs sell volunm 200m at 1.04. someone playing exactly same game like yesterday, make price only can go down further, heading to 90+ soon?
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ETLee8 Master	06-May-2021 15:56        ETLee8 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This has been happening for months already.  Certainly SGX or the broking house is aware, but it is legal lor.   shareabc      ( Date: 06-May-2021 15:42) Posted: buy volunm 100k at 1.03 vs sell volunm 200m at 1.04. someone playing exactly same game like yesterday, make price only can go down further, heading to 90+ soon?
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Longtermer Elite	06-May-2021 15:54        Longtermer About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Yells: "A disciplined investor is a wealthy investor"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Would appreciate if you can post STA related news in that thread. Same for gloves news. Need not spam in all threads.. Thanks tonyja      ( Date: 06-May-2021 15:49) Posted: On this score, STGT is also a better SAFE HAVEN PLAY than supermax besides STA. tonyja      ( Date: 06-May-2021 15:44) Posted: Tradeview Commentaries - Supermax DOES NOT Represent Hartalega, Riverstone or Kossan   Seeing the title, you may be wondering, Supermax is part of the Big 4, how can it not be a representation of the glove sector and other peers. Do have a little patience and read on.  I believe Malaysia investors are the most savvy when it comes to the glove sector. Many know quite a lot about gloves, ASP, buying / selling trends, pros & cons. So all these need not require further explanation. The only 2 common issues I come across that most investors differ upon is their preference of the glove companies and the valuation.    Ex: I noticed quite a clear distinction. Those who like to invest in Top Glove and Supermax generally do not invest in Hartalega and Kossan. Vice versa. The question is why? Well the most common reason I hear retail investors highlighting is that " ASP of Supermax is highest followed by Top Glove" , " Supermax and Top Glove share price always surge like rocket unlike Hartalega and Kossan" etc. A few prominent investors even use PER to justify, Supermax is the cheapest glove company amongst all. It is for this reason, retail investors seem to like Supermax and Top Glove more than the others.    Now, this is where I would share a different perspective. I have always highlighted my favourite glove companies would be Hartalega and Riverstone. Sri Trang Agro and Kossan is close by. The main reason I like Hartalega and Riverstone is because of the high level of efficiency, productivity, ESG compliant and innovation / market leader in their respective area. I even called Hartalega, the " True King of Nitrile Glove" . Why? Because being a champion in the particular product or sector the metric to measure is not solely capacity. Biggest volume dont make you the king. Your quality, innovation and pioneering initiatives is what sets apart the Tier 1 from the others. If we sum up everything, it comes down to the management. When you invest in Berkshire Hathaway, I believe 90% of the investors invest because they believe in Warren Buffet & Charlie Munger, not because of the companies that Berkshire Hathaway owns. When local retail investors invest in Public Bank, they believe in Tan Sri Teh Hiong Piow. When you invest in Hartalega, you believe in the management of Mr Kuan & family to do the right thing.    We know Supermax pride itself of being an OBM player. During the height of pandemic, they were first to hike ASP to sky high levels. At one point as high as USD 150-160 per carton (not blended ASP). Supermax reduced OEM, cut out middleman and distributors but go direct to end consumers or clients. Many praised Supermax and hence invested in them. Research houses said " OBM model paid off handsomely" . Shower of praises keep pouring in. What happened overnight? Why the negativity all around?    Well, OBM is a double edge sword. Life is also a cycle. What goes around comes around. In times of need, hiking ASP astronomically and cutting out distributors allow the company to maximise profits. Similarly, when times are less dire, customers need not take at such exorbitant prices. However, as Supermax focused on spot rates, losing OEM clients with long term contracts, the impact starts to kick in and faster than their peers.    Hartalega, Kossan & Riverstone had the foresight to be gentleman and considerate in taking care of their clients. They were slow to hike rates, they ensure all existing clients can secure allocations. Even spot rates did not take up large portion of their total capacity. They allowed distributors, middleman, OEM clients to make fat margins (sharing profits with them). If you are the client, who would you go to now if you want to buy your products? This is why Hartalega ASP is rising and in Supermax own statement " Spot rate prices have fallen below contract prices" . Supermax is not a representation of Hartalega, Kossan or Riverstone. It never was and never will be. The business model and management philosophy is different. Retail investors must distinguish fact from fiction.
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