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 Alert Admin 		By now i think everyone knows how this counter works.

Issue shares at xx cents. Then announce " good" news WITHOUT any confirmation. (right now the latest annoucement, they dun even want to tell us who is the other party). Then u see share price rises. Then suddenly dumping. This dumping must be those subscribers, so  the gd news is to allow these subscribers to dump.

If u dun believe me, u  can go trace through the history  since 2008 and u will know what i mean.

The mother of all annoucement was the china deal at $240million. Up to  today,  4 years later (or 3 years?),  we are still waiting. 
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 Alert Admin 		nowadays no more penny run that pump up 300%. so boring nowadays
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Starship      ( Date: 07-Jun-2018 18:34) Posted:


Somehow, this PR release reminds me of another SGX-listed company....... one that deals with wildlife................
 

SATELLITE communications company Addvalue Technologies on Thursday said it has agreed with an existing customer - described as a " premier global satellite service company" - to provide data gathering services from now to at least 2026.

This comes on top of the first commercial Inter-Satellite Data Relay System (IDRS) contract that Addvalue signed with this unidentified customer earlier this year. This contract involves Addvalue providing a customised  design and supply of IDRS terminals.

It said that both agreements are estimated to  yield recurring annual revenues of more than US$40 million to the group once the projects are completed. The delivery for the IDRS Terminals is due to start this year.

" Due to commercial sensitivity and the group&rsquo s non-disclosure undertaking to the customer, the group is unable to provide more details about the customer at this juncture," said Addvalue in its regulatory filing on Thursday.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/addvalue-to-sell-data-gathering-services-to-premier-global-satellite-service
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Somehow, this PR release reminds me of another SGX-listed company....... one that deals with wildlife................
 

SATELLITE communications company Addvalue Technologies on Thursday said it has agreed with an existing customer - described as a " premier global satellite service company" - to provide data gathering services from now to at least 2026.

This comes on top of the first commercial Inter-Satellite Data Relay System (IDRS) contract that Addvalue signed with this unidentified customer earlier this year. This contract involves Addvalue providing a customised  design and supply of IDRS terminals.

It said that both agreements are estimated to  yield recurring annual revenues of more than US$40 million to the group once the projects are completed. The delivery for the IDRS Terminals is due to start this year.

" Due to commercial sensitivity and the group&rsquo s non-disclosure undertaking to the customer, the group is unable to provide more details about the customer at this juncture," said Addvalue in its regulatory filing on Thursday.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/addvalue-to-sell-data-gathering-services-to-premier-global-satellite-service
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 Alert Admin 		I think u can go observe the pattern. First issue shares... then annouce good news.. reason? allow the subscribers to offload their shares. My guess. If u will, u can browse through threads about addvalue and u will discover all the so called gd news ended with nothing and keep on making losses years after years.

paul1688      ( Date: 07-Jun-2018 17:39) Posted:

I am neither die hard fan nor naysayer of AVT. I only care to invest in good companies or profit from short term trades.

One need to put some objective perspective in looking at latest development. At least for last 3 years result, AVT has explained loases from impairment losses from intangible assets and high developemnt costs. So key is fruits of labour which seemed to be coming out now. The fact is they have the first IDRS real commercial customer is a big deal. NDA does not allow hem to disclose the customer but people familiar to industry has sufficient indicators on who this major customer is. Just this first single deal alone is worth at least $40 million in annual revenue with profit of at least $11 million per year, for at least 3 years. For company the market size and financials of AVT, this is a significant development. Of course with technology companies the size of AVT there can be risks. To me the more significant risk is whether AVT needs more equity funding (implication to shareholder). There can be positives as well if AVT is bought over or privatized by industry vested bigger players. No absolute certainty on right or wrong now. Can contnue to discredit any development they announce and just watch (and gloat if right) or move in (invest) for early mover advantage if one believes the business / technology is taking off. Only thing I would add is people familiar with the Communications industry acknowledge the news as real and potentially exciting. Whether AVT can now ride to sustainable new financial heights is the multi-million dollar question.  

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 Alert Admin 		I am neither die hard fan nor naysayer of AVT. I only care to invest in good companies or profit from short term trades.

One need to put some objective perspective in looking at latest development. At least for last 3 years result, AVT has explained loases from impairment losses from intangible assets and high developemnt costs. So key is fruits of labour which seemed to be coming out now. The fact is they have the first IDRS real commercial customer is a big deal. NDA does not allow hem to disclose the customer but people familiar to industry has sufficient indicators on who this major customer is. Just this first single deal alone is worth at least $40 million in annual revenue with profit of at least $11 million per year, for at least 3 years. For company the market size and financials of AVT, this is a significant development. Of course with technology companies the size of AVT there can be risks. To me the more significant risk is whether AVT needs more equity funding (implication to shareholder). There can be positives as well if AVT is bought over or privatized by industry vested bigger players. No absolute certainty on right or wrong now. Can contnue to discredit any development they announce and just watch (and gloat if right) or move in (invest) for early mover advantage if one believes the business / technology is taking off. Only thing I would add is people familiar with the Communications industry acknowledge the news as real and potentially exciting. Whether AVT can now ride to sustainable new financial heights is the multi-million dollar question.  
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 Alert Admin 		This company has so many gd news and so many halts since 2008.. u can go read up their so called gd news and contracts and positive impact on earningss but only one thing happens, every year loss $$$ and they just lost a huge amount in the latest financial report

stargazer88      ( Date: 07-Jun-2018 16:39) Posted:

Finally.

Addvalue finally signed an agreement with a client.

Under the agreement Addvalue will derive a recurring revenue of USD$40 million.

Considering the highest revenue has been about SGD$20m for the last 10 years this looks to me like a game changer a new business model that derives airtime usage revenue other than mere equipment sales.


 

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 Alert Admin 		Haha u still trust them after so many years of ?good news?. The customer cant even be named.. gd luck to u.. at this moment they did not even clarify the china $240m buy over of the company. If the deal is true why is the share price still 4 cents? Beware this ?good news? is for bb to dump to innocent investors

stargazer88      ( Date: 07-Jun-2018 16:39) Posted:

Finally.

Addvalue finally signed an agreement with a client.

Under the agreement Addvalue will derive a recurring revenue of USD$40 million.

Considering the highest revenue has been about SGD$20m for the last 10 years this looks to me like a game changer a new business model that derives airtime usage revenue other than mere equipment sales.


 

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 Alert Admin 		Finally.

Addvalue finally signed an agreement with a client.

Under the agreement Addvalue will derive a recurring revenue of USD$40 million.

Considering the highest revenue has been about SGD$20m for the last 10 years this looks to me like a game changer a new business model that derives airtime usage revenue other than mere equipment sales.


 
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 Alert Admin 		Results just annouced.



tonylim70      ( Date: 31-May-2018 02:58) Posted:



" The terminals will be produced in China with certain key modules worth about US$6 million to be supplied by Addvalue over three years with about US$1 million order to be fulfilled in financial year ending 31 March 2019. "


3 years = US$6million. One year = US$2million REVENUE. Profit margin let say 15%. Profit = US$300k... 
In April 2016, they annouce almost the same type of contract but still never make profit, still ended up losses every quarter,.

tonylim70      ( Date: 31-May-2018 02:53) Posted:



 

Singapore, 30 May 2018 &ndash Singapore Exchange Mainboard-listed Addvalue Technologies Ltd (" Addvalue" , together with its subsidiaries, the " Group" ), a leading player in the mobile satellite communications industry, today announced that its Beijing based wholly-owned subsidiary, Zhongxing Chuangzhi (Beijing) Technology Ltd., Co. (ÖÐд´Öµ£¨±±¾©£©¿Æ¼¼ÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾)(" Zhongxing Chuangzhi" ) that its partner Huaan Xingke ( Beijing ) Information Technology Co., Ltd (»ª°²ÐÇ¿Æ£¨±±¾©£©ÐÅÏ¢¼¼ÊõÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾)(" Huaan Xingke" ) has successfully obtained the type approval for their multi-mode satellite communication terminal, S600, from the Register of Fishing Vessel under the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries Bureau of the People&rsquo s Republic of China.

The terminal, a joint development between Addvalue and Huaan Xingke, is customized to meet the China governmental plan to modernize the fishing fleets and is the first-of-its kind to be certified by the China authorities for shipboard and offshore surveillance, navigation and safety operations.

Equipped with the integration of various technologies such as Automatic Identification System (AIS), Radio Frequency Identification (RFID), Beiduo system, and satellite communications, the multi-mode terminal will greatly elevate the operational capabilities for the China fishing fleets while providing very affordable services. The terminal is expected to be deployed in the province of Shandong, Liaoning and Guangdong after the fishing moratorium season in the respective provinces this year. The terminals will be produced in China with certain key modules worth about US$6 million to be supplied by Addvalue over three years with about US$1 million order to be fulfilled in financial year ending 31 March 2019.


How come the annoucement looks like the one made in April 2016?


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" The terminals will be produced in China with certain key modules worth about US$6 million to be supplied by Addvalue over three years with about US$1 million order to be fulfilled in financial year ending 31 March 2019. "


3 years = US$6million. One year = US$2million REVENUE. Profit margin let say 15%. Profit = US$300k... 
In April 2016, they annouce almost the same type of contract but still never make profit, still ended up losses every quarter,.

tonylim70      ( Date: 31-May-2018 02:53) Posted:



 

Singapore, 30 May 2018 &ndash Singapore Exchange Mainboard-listed Addvalue Technologies Ltd (" Addvalue" , together with its subsidiaries, the " Group" ), a leading player in the mobile satellite communications industry, today announced that its Beijing based wholly-owned subsidiary, Zhongxing Chuangzhi (Beijing) Technology Ltd., Co. (ÖÐд´Öµ£¨±±¾©£©¿Æ¼¼ÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾)(" Zhongxing Chuangzhi" ) that its partner Huaan Xingke ( Beijing ) Information Technology Co., Ltd (»ª°²ÐÇ¿Æ£¨±±¾©£©ÐÅÏ¢¼¼ÊõÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾)(" Huaan Xingke" ) has successfully obtained the type approval for their multi-mode satellite communication terminal, S600, from the Register of Fishing Vessel under the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries Bureau of the People&rsquo s Republic of China.

The terminal, a joint development between Addvalue and Huaan Xingke, is customized to meet the China governmental plan to modernize the fishing fleets and is the first-of-its kind to be certified by the China authorities for shipboard and offshore surveillance, navigation and safety operations.

Equipped with the integration of various technologies such as Automatic Identification System (AIS), Radio Frequency Identification (RFID), Beiduo system, and satellite communications, the multi-mode terminal will greatly elevate the operational capabilities for the China fishing fleets while providing very affordable services. The terminal is expected to be deployed in the province of Shandong, Liaoning and Guangdong after the fishing moratorium season in the respective provinces this year. The terminals will be produced in China with certain key modules worth about US$6 million to be supplied by Addvalue over three years with about US$1 million order to be fulfilled in financial year ending 31 March 2019.


How come the annoucement looks like the one made in April 2016?

tonylim70      ( Date: 30-May-2018 18:38) Posted:

supply of equipment to a certain company... typical annoucement

eg: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/addvalue-in-three-year-distribution-contract-with-china-firm

April 2016:

ADDVALUE Technologies' wholly owned unit Addvalue Innovation has entered into a three-year distribution contract with Zhongyou Century (Beijing) Communications Co to supply satellite communication terminals and provide related support services to the China regional maritime vessels market estimated to comprise more than 300,000 vessels.

The first batch of supply totalling about US$4 million, under the distribution contract signed, shall commence delivery from May 2016 and be completed by November. It will contribute positively to the financial performance of Addvalue for the financial year ending March 31, 2017.

This distribution contract stems from an alliance forged between the two companies in relation to a collaboration agreement they entered into on Nov 12, 2015, to distribute satellite communication-based products and provide customised solutions for the communication needs in China, including but not limited to China' s " One Belt, One Road" initiative.


Strange thing that they are still making losses even after the " solid" contract in 2016.
 
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Singapore, 30 May 2018 &ndash Singapore Exchange Mainboard-listed Addvalue Technologies Ltd (" Addvalue" , together with its subsidiaries, the " Group" ), a leading player in the mobile satellite communications industry, today announced that its Beijing based wholly-owned subsidiary, Zhongxing Chuangzhi (Beijing) Technology Ltd., Co. (ÖÐд´Öµ£¨±±¾©£©¿Æ¼¼ÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾)(" Zhongxing Chuangzhi" ) that its partner Huaan Xingke ( Beijing ) Information Technology Co., Ltd (»ª°²ÐÇ¿Æ£¨±±¾©£©ÐÅÏ¢¼¼ÊõÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾)(" Huaan Xingke" ) has successfully obtained the type approval for their multi-mode satellite communication terminal, S600, from the Register of Fishing Vessel under the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries Bureau of the People&rsquo s Republic of China.

The terminal, a joint development between Addvalue and Huaan Xingke, is customized to meet the China governmental plan to modernize the fishing fleets and is the first-of-its kind to be certified by the China authorities for shipboard and offshore surveillance, navigation and safety operations.

Equipped with the integration of various technologies such as Automatic Identification System (AIS), Radio Frequency Identification (RFID), Beiduo system, and satellite communications, the multi-mode terminal will greatly elevate the operational capabilities for the China fishing fleets while providing very affordable services. The terminal is expected to be deployed in the province of Shandong, Liaoning and Guangdong after the fishing moratorium season in the respective provinces this year. The terminals will be produced in China with certain key modules worth about US$6 million to be supplied by Addvalue over three years with about US$1 million order to be fulfilled in financial year ending 31 March 2019.


How come the annoucement looks like the one made in April 2016?

tonylim70      ( Date: 30-May-2018 18:38) Posted:

supply of equipment to a certain company... typical annoucement

eg: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/addvalue-in-three-year-distribution-contract-with-china-firm

April 2016:

ADDVALUE Technologies' wholly owned unit Addvalue Innovation has entered into a three-year distribution contract with Zhongyou Century (Beijing) Communications Co to supply satellite communication terminals and provide related support services to the China regional maritime vessels market estimated to comprise more than 300,000 vessels.

The first batch of supply totalling about US$4 million, under the distribution contract signed, shall commence delivery from May 2016 and be completed by November. It will contribute positively to the financial performance of Addvalue for the financial year ending March 31, 2017.

This distribution contract stems from an alliance forged between the two companies in relation to a collaboration agreement they entered into on Nov 12, 2015, to distribute satellite communication-based products and provide customised solutions for the communication needs in China, including but not limited to China' s " One Belt, One Road" initiative.


Strange thing that they are still making losses even after the " solid" contract in 2016.
 

QueenMaya      ( Date: 30-May-2018 18:24) Posted:

  Trading halt extended for one more day as they need more time to negotiate terms of a contract. 
I wonder what is this all about?   


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 Alert Admin 		supply of equipment to a certain company... typical annoucement

eg: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/addvalue-in-three-year-distribution-contract-with-china-firm

April 2016:

ADDVALUE Technologies' wholly owned unit Addvalue Innovation has entered into a three-year distribution contract with Zhongyou Century (Beijing) Communications Co to supply satellite communication terminals and provide related support services to the China regional maritime vessels market estimated to comprise more than 300,000 vessels.

The first batch of supply totalling about US$4 million, under the distribution contract signed, shall commence delivery from May 2016 and be completed by November. It will contribute positively to the financial performance of Addvalue for the financial year ending March 31, 2017.

This distribution contract stems from an alliance forged between the two companies in relation to a collaboration agreement they entered into on Nov 12, 2015, to distribute satellite communication-based products and provide customised solutions for the communication needs in China, including but not limited to China' s " One Belt, One Road" initiative.


Strange thing that they are still making losses even after the " solid" contract in 2016.
 

QueenMaya      ( Date: 30-May-2018 18:24) Posted:

  Trading halt extended for one more day as they need more time to negotiate terms of a contract. 
I wonder what is this all about?   

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 Alert Admin 		  Trading halt extended for one more day as they need more time to negotiate terms of a contract. 
I wonder what is this all about?   
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 Alert Admin 		Are you aware? The recent announcment stated this counter has a new  placement of 250,000,000 new ordinary shares:

NEW Capital amount: SGD104,754,648
New share issued: 250 million
Existing outstanding shares: 1,770,441,084

This also read as an estimate of $0.052 per share value.

Why is the move so weak? It is probably weak take up or confidence is low from traders.
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http://thefinance.sg/2014/03/27/addvalue-technologies-announced-sale-of-one-of-its-subsidiaries-for-s330mn-share-rises-sharply-but-closed-well-below-its-implied-value/

AddValue Technologies announced sale of one of its subsidiaries for S$330mn&hellip share rises sharply but closed well below its implied value ??!!



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AddValue Technologies announced yesterday that it had reached an agreement to sell one of its subsidiaries for $330mn.   The shares rose from 6.5 cents to an intra-day high of 18.1 cents but closed at 15.7 cents.

4  years on, where is deal?
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Mon, Oct 26, 2015 - 2:25 PM

NEWS of involvement in a major communications project associated with China' s " One Belt One Road" initiative brought life to the otherwise listless shares of Addvalue Technologies.

By 2.01pm, the group shares have surged 25 per cent to 6.5 cents with a hefty 20.79 million shares traded, after the morning trading halt was lifted at 10.45am.

This marked a rebound from a downward trend since the beginning of the year, when the stock was at a 52-week high of 8.5 cents in January.

Addvalue Technologies said on Monday morning that its wholly owned unit Addvalue Innovation Pte Ltd has entered into a memorandum of understanding (MOU) on Oct 23 with China International Security Solution Corporation Limited (CSS) to jointly develop and supply satellite communication-based solutions, products and services to meet the communication needs associated with the " One Belt One Road" initiative.



3 years on, where is the positive effect of the major deal with the " One belt One road" ???? Fool me once, shame on you fool me twice, shame on me

huatahrr      ( Date: 02-May-2018 13:05) Posted:

Me too, giving them one last chance and same time giving me last chance on this counter. Stll believe after our Gov pumping in so much fund and is time to see some return
 

Beckham      ( Date: 28-Apr-2018 22:12) Posted:

Haha.. nvm, just believe them last and only chance they have now. 
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 Alert Admin 		Me too, giving them one last chance and same time giving me last chance on this counter. Stll believe after our Gov pumping in so much fund and is time to see some return
 

Beckham      ( Date: 28-Apr-2018 22:12) Posted:

Haha.. nvm, just believe them last and only chance they have now. 

tonylim70      ( Date: 28-Apr-2018 22:01) Posted:

hahahahahaha.. since 2008 all the so called " good" news annouced. During this 10 years, has the good news translate to actual profit?

If u trust them, then u really never learn from the bitter lessons.

Anyway is ur $$$, u trust them , good luck to u man, u need plenty of it..

Look at the share price, the share price speaks for itself. Even with good news and good analyst report, share price never move.. why? investors dun trust them anymore.

The China $240M they dun even bother to update already, u still trust them
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 Alert Admin 		damn so fast 0.041 thrown down

tonytan44      ( Date: 02-May-2018 09:13) Posted:

i que to short at 0.042
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