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yau123 Senior	12-Sep-2023 19:06        yau123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	rebounding soon. Strong support at 0.055. I think some smart investors came in to buy.
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Alignment Elite	12-Sep-2023 18:38        Alignment About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It depends who is holding the debt. If it is still the original lenders then they may be more tolerant. If however some of the debt was sold at a discount to third parties, then they could be more aggressive as they don' t necessarily need the debt to be made whole to make money.
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positivity88 Veteran	12-Sep-2023 09:39        positivity88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Once news of a waiver which is highly likely by the banks , since they only breached the convenant by a mere 0.2% . then this will go for a strong rebound.. mrwise      ( Date: 06-Sep-2023 17:09) Posted: Looks like a strong rebound up coming?!! Maybe good news coming?!!
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mrwise Supreme	06-Sep-2023 17:09        mrwise About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Looks like a strong rebound up coming?!! Maybe good news coming?!!
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SmallSmall Supreme	06-Sep-2023 15:03        SmallSmall About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Don' t think you will lose everything. The assets they are holding still have values although the whole office sector has tanked. Just that there are so much fear in the market with all the breach of convenants. Worst to worst sell the assets. Nett NAV still pretty high.  Tell me if I am wrong. mav1ryan      ( Date: 06-Sep-2023 14:48) Posted: You either can make a lot depending how much you buy, or lost everything. You are right to say it is tikam (gamble).
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mav1ryan Veteran	06-Sep-2023 14:48        mav1ryan About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You either can make a lot depending how much you buy, or lost everything. You are right to say it is tikam (gamble).
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SmallSmall Supreme	06-Sep-2023 14:46        SmallSmall About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Tikam a bit @ $0.057. Does looks balanced now on both sides. Indeed does looks very oversold on the chart.   kelvinn      ( Date: 06-Sep-2023 10:39) Posted: can trust chart to buy at 0.057?
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kelvinn Member	06-Sep-2023 10:39        kelvinn About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	can trust chart to buy at 0.057?
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eddyeddy Master	06-Sep-2023 07:39        eddyeddy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Now could be in negative equity
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MARKWONG Senior	06-Sep-2023 06:51        MARKWONG About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Analysts is a joke. Have oneself own agenda. Yet, I foresee the bottom is pretty close. Beginning or mid of 2024 should get better, till USA Powell stop raising interest. DuplexCH      ( Date: 04-Sep-2023 16:40) Posted: Set your own TP...those analyst cum trainees always fail tankoksee      ( Date: 04-Sep-2023 16:22) Posted: wtf? CGS-CIMB Research Adjusts Manulife US REIT&rsquo s Price Target to $0.25 From $0.41, Keeps at Add 17 Aug 2023
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DuplexCH Senior	04-Sep-2023 16:40        DuplexCH About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Set your own TP...those analyst cum trainees always fail tankoksee      ( Date: 04-Sep-2023 16:22) Posted: wtf? CGS-CIMB Research Adjusts Manulife US REIT&rsquo s Price Target to $0.25 From $0.41, Keeps at Add 17 Aug 2023 eddyeddy      ( Date: 04-Sep-2023 14:50) Posted: New low again
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investshare Supreme	04-Sep-2023 16:30        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Management should put the company to Chap 11 to protect the asset. Else it may dilute.
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tankoksee Supreme	04-Sep-2023 16:22        tankoksee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wtf? CGS-CIMB Research Adjusts Manulife US REIT&rsquo s Price Target to $0.25 From $0.41, Keeps at Add 17 Aug 2023 eddyeddy      ( Date: 04-Sep-2023 14:50) Posted: New low again
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eddyeddy Master	04-Sep-2023 14:50        eddyeddy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	New low again
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tankoksee Supreme	04-Sep-2023 14:33        tankoksee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	capitulation!.. tankoksee      ( Date: 04-Sep-2023 07:25) Posted: 10 cts! biper66      ( Date: 03-Sep-2023 18:47) Posted: looks like it--MACD upwards  what lvls youthink it can bounce to
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tankoksee Supreme	04-Sep-2023 07:25        tankoksee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	10 cts! biper66      ( Date: 03-Sep-2023 18:47) Posted: looks like it--MACD upwards  what lvls youthink it can bounce to? tankoksee      ( Date: 31-Aug-2023 07:46) Posted: dead cat bounce coming!
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biper66 Senior	03-Sep-2023 18:47        biper66 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	looks like it--MACD upwards  what lvls youthink it can bounce to? tankoksee      ( Date: 31-Aug-2023 07:46) Posted: dead cat bounce coming!
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eddyeddy Master	31-Aug-2023 08:04        eddyeddy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Insurance is a separated entity , had diff shareholders . cannot just buy as you said. . investshare      ( Date: 30-Aug-2023 23:00) Posted: You think this is child play? Manulife can simply bail out by buying at higher the fair or market price? Insurance is one of the strictest regulated industry. Auditors and regulators would make sure they would not buy above fair price. SGDInvestor      ( Date: 23-Aug-2023 08:44) Posted: Fully agree that the sponsor should have and could have done more to support the REIT earlier, so we wouldn' t reach the current sad state. They are not doing themselves a favour. Many of my friends have said they will avoid buying any insurance or unit trusts from Manulife! Their reputation is definitely going downhill among many Singaporeans.  But given where we are for the REIT now, we are trying to decide whether to invest at current depressed prices. The key piece of the puzzle is whether and how the sponsor will act going forward. So I think should still gather all such info before making a best guesstimate of whether can make money or not.  But actually right now, the negotiations with lenders is most crucial first step. I don' t see why the lenders won' t restructure the loans and give the REIT a lifeline. Any views?
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tankoksee Supreme	31-Aug-2023 07:46        tankoksee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	dead cat bounce coming!
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investshare Supreme	30-Aug-2023 23:00        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You think this is child play? Manulife can simply bail out by buying at higher the fair or market price? Insurance is one of the strictest regulated industry. Auditors and regulators would make sure they would not buy above fair price. SGDInvestor      ( Date: 23-Aug-2023 08:44) Posted: Fully agree that the sponsor should have and could have done more to support the REIT earlier, so we wouldn' t reach the current sad state. They are not doing themselves a favour. Many of my friends have said they will avoid buying any insurance or unit trusts from Manulife! Their reputation is definitely going downhill among many Singaporeans.  But given where we are for the REIT now, we are trying to decide whether to invest at current depressed prices. The key piece of the puzzle is whether and how the sponsor will act going forward. So I think should still gather all such info before making a best guesstimate of whether can make money or not.  But actually right now, the negotiations with lenders is most crucial first step. I don' t see why the lenders won' t restructure the loans and give the REIT a lifeline. Any views?
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