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ysh2006 Supreme	10-Mar-2019 09:09        ysh2006 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Like this those last hold 1ooooo shares will now become 1 lot only...? asphodeli      ( Date: 10-Mar-2019 08:01) Posted: share consolidation of 100:1?    its a real possibility... runaway      ( Date: 08-Mar-2019 14:59) Posted: Pls wake up! Pice/Book: 2.8 PE: 184 Shares outstanding: 26 Billion Total Equity: 784 millions NAV: $0.03 (Three Cents!!!) Why are you hoping for???
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asphodeli Member	10-Mar-2019 08:01        asphodeli About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	share consolidation of 100:1?    its a real possibility... runaway      ( Date: 08-Mar-2019 14:59) Posted: Pls wake up! Pice/Book: 2.8 PE: 184 Shares outstanding: 26 Billion Total Equity: 784 millions NAV: $0.03 (Three Cents!!!) Why are you hoping for???
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kandinsky Master	09-Mar-2019 23:15        kandinsky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Raffles Education, another cock counter also surviving lol Starwar88      ( Date: 08-Mar-2019 15:25) Posted: Lol. U see KrisEnergy. Still surviving at 5.2 runaway      ( Date: 08-Mar-2019 14:59) Posted: Pls wake up! Pice/Book: 2.8 PE: 184 Shares outstanding: 26 Billion Total Equity: 784 millions NAV: $0.03 (Three Cents!!!) Why are you hoping for???
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Starwar88 Supreme	08-Mar-2019 15:25        Starwar88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lol. U see KrisEnergy. Still surviving at 5.2 runaway      ( Date: 08-Mar-2019 14:59) Posted: Pls wake up! Pice/Book: 2.8 PE: 184 Shares outstanding: 26 Billion Total Equity: 784 millions NAV: $0.03 (Three Cents!!!) Why are you hoping for???
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runaway Senior	08-Mar-2019 14:59        runaway About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Pls wake up! Pice/Book: 2.8 PE: 184 Shares outstanding: 26 Billion Total Equity: 784 millions NAV: $0.03 (Three Cents!!!) Why are you hoping for???
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Starwar88 Supreme	08-Mar-2019 14:29        Starwar88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just wait. A matter of time before BB do another push and dump at 80/81. Now market condition not so ideal
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runaway Senior	08-Mar-2019 11:34        runaway About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Growth stage? Since when, and what growth? TM was first bought for $800M, then acquired by Rowsley for $1.2B with shares, no $ paid. TM as a Hospital, started by doctor owner, has always been profitable. When acquired by Rowsley, of course the small profit is shown in the P& L. It is not a loss turning to profit story hor. Those still hopeful are stuck and trapped, bobian.
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kandinsky Master	08-Mar-2019 10:53        kandinsky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	With the wait you lose out on opportunities elsewhere with that same pool of money. eric998      ( Date: 08-Mar-2019 10:29) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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Investor8 Master	08-Mar-2019 10:26        Investor8 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Your reasoning seems cute. If DBS acquired OCBC and paid for everything in DBS shares and $0 cash, so previous OCBC shareholders who receive DBS shares in exchange will get $0 value? Lol. runaway      ( Date: 08-Mar-2019 08:30) Posted: Rowsley was an empty shell. It acquired an architecture firm, paid $0 with new shares. Nothing great happened. It then acquired TM, again paid $0 with new shares. It now waits for warrant holders to contribite real $. Who will be the greatest benefactor? You?
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runaway Senior	08-Mar-2019 08:30        runaway About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Rowsley was an empty shell. It acquired an architecture firm, paid $0 with new shares. Nothing great happened. It then acquired TM, again paid $0 with new shares. It now waits for warrant holders to contribite real $. Who will be the greatest benefactor? You?
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Lugx76@ Member	07-Mar-2019 22:22        Lugx76@ About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Based on closing price TMC share price is 0.74 myr. warrant strike price is approx 17.3 sens. Pl sold the warrant to Rowsley for approx 18 sens. So based on current share price of TMC. Profit is Sgd 112 million approx. So technically if the ringgit has seen it s bottom already then foreign exchange profit will come into play in the future. Lugx76@      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 21:52) Posted: A quote from the man himself "Up to a point after people tell you a story and a vision, don?t write it off. Sometimes it comes true. You just make sure that if it doesn?t come true, you don?t get hurt too much.? I pay alot of attention to this statement especially the part where 'if it does not come true you don't get hurt too much". My strategy is that if it does not come true. I only get a little pinch Lugx76@      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 21:45) Posted: Yes it's good if one has deep pockets. My strategy is to convert as many warrants as possible, of course in batches to alleviate risks and then just keep the piggyback warrants. This will free up my capital outlay and perhaps put them in high dividend yield plays like Fuyu. My initial target was 4 million piggybacks. But due to captial constraints I am aiming for at least 2.5 million piggybacks.
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Lugx76@ Member	07-Mar-2019 21:52        Lugx76@ About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	A quote from the man himself "Up to a point after people tell you a story and a vision, don?t write it off. Sometimes it comes true. You just make sure that if it doesn?t come true, you don?t get hurt too much.? I pay alot of attention to this statement especially the part where 'if it does not come true you don't get hurt too much". My strategy is that if it does not come true. I only get a little pinch Lugx76@      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 21:45) Posted: Yes it's good if one has deep pockets. My strategy is to convert as many warrants as possible, of course in batches to alleviate risks and then just keep the piggyback warrants. This will free up my capital outlay and perhaps put them in high dividend yield plays like Fuyu. My initial target was 4 million piggybacks. But due to captial constraints I am aiming for at least 2.5 million piggybacks. trademaster      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 20:49) Posted: Agree, except that I would keep the mother shares after getting the piggy warrants, as I dont want to miss out the price appreciation from 8 ct to 11ct. If I have extra resources, I would still accumulate more from now 8 ct  till 11 ct. I am keeping this counter for long term, expecting price to appreciate to 20 ct, 50 ct or even 80 ct. Just my view
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Lugx76@ Member	07-Mar-2019 21:45        Lugx76@ About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes it's good if one has deep pockets. My strategy is to convert as many warrants as possible, of course in batches to alleviate risks and then just keep the piggyback warrants. This will free up my capital outlay and perhaps put them in high dividend yield plays like Fuyu. My initial target was 4 million piggybacks. But due to captial constraints I am aiming for at least 2.5 million piggybacks. trademaster      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 20:49) Posted: Agree, except that I would keep the mother shares after getting the piggy warrants, as I dont want to miss out the price appreciation from 8 ct to 11ct. If I have extra resources, I would still accumulate more from now 8 ct  till 11 ct. I am keeping this counter for long term, expecting price to appreciate to 20 ct, 50 ct or even 80 ct. Just my view. Lugx76@      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 20:26) Posted: Or sell the mother share once converted and credited into Cdp and realise a small loss (if price is still below strike price).. it's quite a risk proof strategy, and you get the piggyback warrants for 3 years. I can't see an issue with share price below the warrant strike price..unless it's way below the strike price. They, PL has nothing to gain if the share price is suppressed. He did a reverse takeover for Thomson and the transaction was mostly done in shares not cash, it will be in his interests to see the share price performing. Was sasteria overpriced, i used to think so.. but Sasteria before the reverse takeover was worth almost a billion already. Shareholders are paying an additional 600 million for both TMG and TMC and TMC warrants, i am trying to figure out the strike price for the TMC warrants (more than 500 million warrants). Assuming TMC exceeds expectations, and warrants are exercised it will add significant value to the Group (there is expansion on the cards for TMC, adding another 900 beds and also TMG Vantage Bay) . We are in the early stages, too early to correctly valuate the group. What we can do is evaluate the potential, i think FY 2019/2020 things will get clearer. I think this is a very sound investment. I am not asking anyone to buy, and i dont gain from it either. Just sharing what i perceive fr the information gathered. But of cos nothing is without risk eg. Geopolitical issues. Dyodd as alway
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trademaster Supreme	07-Mar-2019 20:49        trademaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree, except that I would keep the mother shares after getting the piggy warrants, as I dont want to miss out the price appreciation from 8 ct to 11ct. If I have extra resources, I would still accumulate more from now 8 ct  till 11 ct. I am keeping this counter for long term, expecting price to appreciate to 20 ct, 50 ct or even 80 ct. Just my view. Lugx76@      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 20:26) Posted: Or sell the mother share once converted and credited into Cdp and realise a small loss (if price is still below strike price).. it's quite a risk proof strategy, and you get the piggyback warrants for 3 years. I can't see an issue with share price below the warrant strike price..unless it's way below the strike price. They, PL has nothing to gain if the share price is suppressed. He did a reverse takeover for Thomson and the transaction was mostly done in shares not cash, it will be in his interests to see the share price performing. Was sasteria overpriced, i used to think so.. but Sasteria before the reverse takeover was worth almost a billion already. Shareholders are paying an additional 600 million for both TMG and TMC and TMC warrants, i am trying to figure out the strike price for the TMC warrants (more than 500 million warrants). Assuming TMC exceeds expectations, and warrants are exercised it will add significant value to the Group (there is expansion on the cards for TMC, adding another 900 beds and also TMG Vantage Bay) . We are in the early stages, too early to correctly valuate the group. What we can do is evaluate the potential, i think FY 2019/2020 things will get clearer. I think this is a very sound investment. I am not asking anyone to buy, and i dont gain from it either. Just sharing what i perceive fr the information gathered. But of cos nothing is without risk eg. Geopolitical issues. Dyodd as always Investor8      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 16:28) Posted: Look at it from another perspective: If you exercise and convert, you pay $0.08 which is $0.002/3 above prevailing market price of $0.077/8.  You will get mother shares and piggyback warrants.  You can keep the mother shares and take it that it costs you $0.077/8 and the price difference of $0.002/3 will represent the effective costs of your piggyback warrants.  For such a small costs, do you think it is worthwhile playing the piggyback warrants for the next 3 years (a very long call option albeit with a higher exercise price of $0.11)?  It is your call
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Lugx76@ Member	07-Mar-2019 20:26        Lugx76@ About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Or sell the mother share once converted and credited into Cdp and realise a small loss (if price is still below strike price).. it's quite a risk proof strategy, and you get the piggyback warrants for 3 years. I can't see an issue with share price below the warrant strike price..unless it's way below the strike price. They, PL has nothing to gain if the share price is suppressed. He did a reverse takeover for Thomson and the transaction was mostly done in shares not cash, it will be in his interests to see the share price performing. Was sasteria overpriced, i used to think so.. but Sasteria before the reverse takeover was worth almost a billion already. Shareholders are paying an additional 600 million for both TMG and TMC and TMC warrants, i am trying to figure out the strike price for the TMC warrants (more than 500 million warrants). Assuming TMC exceeds expectations, and warrants are exercised it will add significant value to the Group (there is expansion on the cards for TMC, adding another 900 beds and also TMG Vantage Bay) . We are in the early stages, too early to correctly valuate the group. What we can do is evaluate the potential, i think FY 2019/2020 things will get clearer. I think this is a very sound investment. I am not asking anyone to buy, and i dont gain from it either. Just sharing what i perceive fr the information gathered. But of cos nothing is without risk eg. Geopolitical issues. Dyodd as always Investor8      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 16:28) Posted: Look at it from another perspective: If you exercise and convert, you pay $0.08 which is $0.002/3 above prevailing market price of $0.077/8.  You will get mother shares and piggyback warrants.  You can keep the mother shares and take it that it costs you $0.077/8 and the price difference of $0.002/3 will represent the effective costs of your piggyback warrants.  For such a small costs, do you think it is worthwhile playing the piggyback warrants for the next 3 years (a very long call option albeit with a higher exercise price of $0.11)?  It is your call. trademaster      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 14:59) Posted: Can post news here? Tks  if price stay at 77/78, most people won&rsquo t convert warrants, might as well buy at 78, cheaper and safer to keep Mother shares.
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trademaster Supreme	07-Mar-2019 16:30        trademaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My view is, Since warrant out of money might as well buy from market at 7.8 ct rather than exercise bonus warrant n pay 8ct. Piggy warrant exercise price is 11 ct, if buy from market at 7.8 ct , will be sitting on profits by the time price hit 11 ct. Warrant will let it lapse especially if given free last time.  lammygan      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 13:02) Posted: Guys, please advise can i sell the warrants now?
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Investor8 Master	07-Mar-2019 16:28        Investor8 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Look at it from another perspective: If you exercise and convert, you pay $0.08 which is $0.002/3 above prevailing market price of $0.077/8.  You will get mother shares and piggyback warrants.  You can keep the mother shares and take it that it costs you $0.077/8 and the price difference of $0.002/3 will represent the effective costs of your piggyback warrants.  For such a small costs, do you think it is worthwhile playing the piggyback warrants for the next 3 years (a very long call option albeit with a higher exercise price of $0.11)?  It is your call. trademaster      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 14:59) Posted: Can post news here? Tks  if price stay at 77/78, most people won&rsquo t convert warrants, might as well buy at 78, cheaper and safer to keep Mother shares.  Investor8      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 13:52) Posted: Co just announced they have secured a MYR300 million loan from Maybank to fund their hospital project in Kota Damansara
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trademaster Supreme	07-Mar-2019 16:21        trademaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks.  boyboy61      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 16:16) Posted: Part of the SGX announcement yesterday regarding the loan " 3. FINANCIAL EFFECT OF THE FACILITY The Project is expected to have a positive effect on the future earnings of TMCLS Group. However, the Facility (when fully drawn) is expected to increase the gearing of the Group. For illustrative purposes, based on the audited consolidated financial statements of the Company for the financial year ended 31 August 2018, the Facility is expected to increase the gearing of the Group from 0.002 times to 0.408 times. The Board of Directors of the Company does not envisage any specific risk associated with the acceptance of the Facility, apart from the financing costs." trademaster      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 14:59) Posted: Can post news here? Tks  if price stay at 77/78, most people won&rsquo t convert warrants, might as well buy at 78, cheaper and safer to keep Mother shares.
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Investor8 Master	07-Mar-2019 16:20        Investor8 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Can see from the link below: http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/TMCLS_Acceptance%20of%20term%20loan%20facility%20of%20RM300m.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=546474 trademaster      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 14:59) Posted: Can post news here? Tks  if price stay at 77/78, most people won&rsquo t convert warrants, might as well buy at 78, cheaper and safer to keep Mother shares.  Investor8      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 13:52) Posted: Co just announced they have secured a MYR300 million loan from Maybank to fund their hospital project in Kota Damansara
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boyboy61 Supreme	07-Mar-2019 16:16        boyboy61 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Part of the SGX announcement yesterday regarding the loan " 3. FINANCIAL EFFECT OF THE FACILITY The Project is expected to have a positive effect on the future earnings of TMCLS Group. However, the Facility (when fully drawn) is expected to increase the gearing of the Group. For illustrative purposes, based on the audited consolidated financial statements of the Company for the financial year ended 31 August 2018, the Facility is expected to increase the gearing of the Group from 0.002 times to 0.408 times. The Board of Directors of the Company does not envisage any specific risk associated with the acceptance of the Facility, apart from the financing costs." trademaster      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 14:59) Posted: Can post news here? Tks  if price stay at 77/78, most people won&rsquo t convert warrants, might as well buy at 78, cheaper and safer to keep Mother shares.  Investor8      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 13:52) Posted: Co just announced they have secured a MYR300 million loan from Maybank to fund their hospital project in Kota Damansara
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