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Is Oxley a good buy at current price?
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13-Jul-2014 23:58
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No buy signals! Are you sure?
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Lucky03
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13-Jul-2014 23:55
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Not aware if NOL engaged any consultant. The point is that whatever NOL has been doing for the past 2.5 years are in line with what this veteran consultant is emphasizing on the new business model that the shipping industry must embrace.
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Kyoto2008
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13-Jul-2014 23:18
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Not very clear on the point made.  Did they engage a consultant?
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13-Jul-2014 22:45
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Financials and technicals r now in tandem.keep up the good job.
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famouspinky
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13-Jul-2014 22:39
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Coming week will be good
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spore1
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13-Jul-2014 22:29
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when the reversal is strong then it will also reverse this down trend (changing direction)and head higher. look for a good leap of 4-5 cents up for confirmation signal.
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Lucky03
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13-Jul-2014 21:30
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I repost a posting I made more than 2 weeks ago. The point I was tying to make is that this veteran consultant is advocating a change of the business model which NOL is apparently embarking on 2.5 yrs ago and should be expected to reap its benefit. It is hard to say if the management is doing well as the results has been indeed disappointing. Is it a real loser ? Look at the industry to help make a better judgement. Look at the macro economy taking in consideration the over supply of ships, extremely keen competition and the improving trade volume plus cost cutting measures and results and then make projection of the 2 axis movements and assess if it is worth entering for long term now. You buy for future not for the past.
Here's the posting on the veteran consultant recommendation for a new business model. From JOC : After 13 years of working closely with container lines to develop their electronic cargo booking and tracking capabilities through INTTRA, its former CEO Ken Bloom is moving on to solve a different problem: how to change the way the shipping industry operates. ?Its business models are dying. We have to change that,? Bloom said in an interview with the JOC. ?The industry is still in a financial crisis, and the denial of the P3 Network prolongs the crisis,? he said. ?We need this industry to change faster, so I think the next frontier will be all about the people in the industry.? Bloom is joining management development consultancy Korn Ferry today as senior client partner. There he will advise container lines, logistics providers, intermodal carriers and shippers on managing and upgrading human resource talent. Bloom resigned from INTTRA earlier this year but stayed on to help in the transition to a new CEO. ?INTTRA was all about the process of container shipping. The next piece is all about the people layer,? he said. Recalling the JOC calling the industry ?painfully slow to change,? he said he thinks his new role will enable him to help the industry expedite change. Bloom points to the way carriers allow non-vessel-operating common carriers to resell unused vessel space they have contracted to other NVOCCs as one example of carriers? broken business model. ?When they can?t meet their requirement, they can sub that out to other forwarders at a markup, and before you know it, the carrier isn?t even earning money on its freight.? He said the carriers? business model needs to be rooted out and changed. ?The business model is unsustainable, so you need to attract new people. Young people don?t go into the carrier or forwarding business, and we need those brains.? He said logistics graduates seek jobs with beneficial cargo owners, rather than in the logistics business. ?What that means is that carrier executives are increasingly interacting with supply chain professionals, not an industry hanger-on.? Bloom thinks carriers and logistics providers have to overhaul the way they recruit and manage talent so they can find new ways of doing business. Only a few ocean carriers have seen the need to change their human resource recruitment approach. He pointed to United Arab Shipping Co. as an example of a carrier that is revamping its ranks to drive organizational change. With no dearth of capital provided by its six gulf state owners, it has ordered 17 new post-Panamax container ships to replace its aging fleet, overhauled its global management structure to place responsibility on trade lanes rather than regions, and is expanding its vessel-sharing alliance with China Shipping Container Lines. UASC also hired two new top executives from Maersk Line this spring. ?They are building what they want with whom they want, and they are going to win,? Bloom said. ?They are not going to catch up to the Maersks and the Hamburg-Suds of this world they are going to surpass them.? UASC plans to do this, not by mimicking the model of larger carriers, but by charting its own strategy. ?It?s like mobile phone carriers. They don?t need to put in copper wire. They are building what they want with whom they want from the ground up, and they are going to win. They?ve got plenty of money, but brains as well and strategy,? he said. ?This talent thing is going to be the thing that differentiates the carriers that survive in the future.? Contact Peter Leach at [email protected] and follow him on Twitter: @petertleach.
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stevenk
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13-Jul-2014 20:40
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what is your opinion?
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Kyoto2008
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13-Jul-2014 20:00
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Chart shows NOL is on downtrend, broken all supports.    Noticed that two dojis or more formed before any price reversals.    Currently, there are no buy signals. Taken a look at the financials, there is FX losses and non performing loans (on trade and receivables).  Admin costs are very high too, about 8% of sales, out of which 5% are employee benefits.    For swing traders, my humble opinion is to wait for the dojis or better a morning star to appear before jumping in.    Personally I wouldn' t buy for long term, this seems a loser.
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famouspinky
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13-Jul-2014 18:29
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R u sure trending down? :)
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Lucky03
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13-Jul-2014 18:25
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The UOBKH analyst qualified his technical sell recommendation with a caveat - "Our institutional research has a fundamental BUY with a target price of S$1.17." Like that, the house won't lose lah !
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Lucky03
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13-Jul-2014 18:23
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Read in another forum that UOBKH again issued confusing short term vs mid term recommendation. They have issued technical sell at 3 timings over last 5 mths - 13 Mar, 6 May and recently. Looking at the reverse, if the price rises above 0.94 and hitting 0.965, there may be short covering. Whatever, there may be some volatility over next 2 weeks as it gets nearer to the release of Q2 and half year result. Q2 result is particularly significant as NOL has technically completed the 2.5 years exercise of fleet renewal after taking in the last 10 of the 35 ships ordered and having returned another 5 chartered ships this year.
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stevenk
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13-Jul-2014 17:54
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short term rebound possible due to short term overbought. But it is still trending down, Going down.
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Lucky03
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13-Jul-2014 10:59
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If you read today's Invest Pg 42, the recent second-round stimulus measures by ECB will see the release of about 400 billion euro in cheap bank loans to consumers and companies starting in September. Hapag should have not much difficulty to raise the cash for any acquisition if Tamesek is willing to sell out or accept any merger arrangement. | ||||
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spore1
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12-Jul-2014 23:10
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good value present.think more likely to bounce up from current prices soon. http://sporeshare.blog spot.sg/2014/07/nol.html |
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Lucky03
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12-Jul-2014 12:20
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NOL made a bid for Hapag in 2008 and then resumed talk in 2011 but both unsuccessful. Now Hapag instead expressed interest in NOL. One of the reasons that both attempts failed mainly attributed to state control as Germany was not open to foreign ownership for the shipping line. Does Tamesek or Singapore regards APL in NOL as state asset ? Will they have concern if Hapag group switch to other neighboring ports after acquiring APL ? Tamesek raised its stake in NOL to 67% at a price of $2.80. Will it have to write down the investment based on current sub $1 price ? Guess it will likely to be a merger with share swap rather than an outright sales if the deal happens esp after Tamesek and shareholders had invested heavily for the fleet renewal program to acquire 34 ships over last 2+ years just completed. Finally, is Hapag interested in backdoor listing in SGX through NOL ? That probably depends if the merger is only with APL or NOL as a whole including both logistic and terminal operation businesses. If there is no interest for backdoor listing, then a privatization is a likely outcome. Whatever, we may see some signs of corporate activities such as the recent announcement of the transfer of 36% share in PSA Mumbai Investment.
Q2 performance may be key to any valuation as any confirmation of turnaround will raise the value of NOL significantly.
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Lucky03
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12-Jul-2014 02:22
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The new Indian Modi govt released its first pro growth budget and among which includes 16 new port projects to be awarded this year. Any coincidence that NOL transferred its entire 36% shareholding in PSA Mumbai Investment which is setup for terminal investment activities back to PSA India ? May seriously be preparing for some corporate restructure or to sell or M&A for APL Liners while retaining the profitable terminal and logistic arms ? Then may need to wait till Q2 result is released.
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sgng123
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11-Jul-2014 19:51
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http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/sector/containers/article444924.ece Cargo volume going up but freight rate remain depressed, maybe current freight rate is a reflection of the lower slot cost achieved by the major liner. Cost cutting and deployment of larger and more fuel efficent ships is the norm now  to remain profitable in container shipping industry. |
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sgng123
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11-Jul-2014 17:18
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anyway waiting for 2q result, no point everyone in forum making wild guess about ship future. Result speak for itself and whether it would shoot up or remain in sub dollar range all depend on 2Q slot cost reduction. For now there are hedging against poor result on ship share so the share remain subdued till 2Q when it is more clear. A bigger than expected slot cost would lift ship profit margin and in turn lift the share price, a not so strong 2Q would see ship rangebound in current shar erpice. |
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11-Jul-2014 14:27
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good analysis
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