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Richardlai Master	21-May-2019 10:49        Richardlai About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Cosmetic sales in China is generally pretty good business as a friend of mine used to do pretty good there selling cosmetics etc, he did have a small problem with the tax there as he was reaping good money too.
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Sin_Cos_Tan Veteran	21-May-2019 09:20        Sin_Cos_Tan About Contact  Quote this Post!
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eric998 Supreme	20-May-2019 10:21        eric998 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Got this feeling that the issue not that simple, many guessing and speculations games when management is not able to calm and assure investors. Insiders would want BW to be suspended while trying to maybe maneuver funds out to their pockets. Once suspension lifted shortists will come out to make a killing and bring the value to near zero. Personal take and feel.
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Goldfinger Supreme	20-May-2019 09:17        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	At this juncture they are still pretending to be righteous. How come no heavyweights are coming out to defend them?
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Sin_Cos_Tan Veteran	20-May-2019 09:12        Sin_Cos_Tan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	and nephew ......etc etc.... Best World confirms CEO' s brother-in-law owns main customer in China, discloses other connections http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/best-world-confirms-ceos-brother-in-law-owns-main-customer-in-china-discloses   Qanghoo      ( Date: 20-May-2019 07:40) Posted: True, since muddy waters, iceberg, etc has anybody heard of any litigation efforts ending up in a single court hearing?  Also, what if more brothers-in-law, sisters-in-law, uncles, aunties, grandmothers, etc etc, start surfacing if they litigate? JarBinx      ( Date: 20-May-2019 01:01) Posted: Because VV are a bunch of anonymous keyboard warriors
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Qanghoo Supreme	20-May-2019 07:40        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	True, since muddy waters, iceberg, etc has anybody heard of any litigation efforts ending up in a single court hearing?  Also, what if more brothers-in-law, sisters-in-law, uncles, aunties, grandmothers, etc etc, start surfacing if they litigate? JarBinx      ( Date: 20-May-2019 01:01) Posted: Because VV are a bunch of anonymous keyboard warriors
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JarBinx Member	20-May-2019 01:01        JarBinx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Because VV are a bunch of anonymous keyboard warriors
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Sin_Cos_Tan Veteran	19-May-2019 21:39        Sin_Cos_Tan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	VV has issued 3 reports since 24/4/19 Ya, why BWL has not taken any legal action against VV? meljohn      ( Date: 19-May-2019 16:23) Posted: VV (BW Target =0 closing = 1.36)  I will be very disappointed if SGX allow this type of report without investigation.  Waiting for BW to take action . Wating for big fund come in to take opportunity if share price continue to decline.
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meljohn Senior	19-May-2019 16:23        meljohn About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	VV (BW Target =0 closing = 1.36)  I will be very disappointed if SGX allow this type of report without investigation.  Waiting for BW to take action . Wating for big fund come in to take opportunity if share price continue to decline.
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like2learn Veteran	19-May-2019 16:11        like2learn About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ohhh, i must be sleepyhead. thx Sin_Cos_Tan ! Sin_Cos_Tan      ( Date: 19-May-2019 05:06) Posted: double click -    Best World: The Worst Investment        at the end of part 3 report (Hero to Zero), and you can read part 1 report Found these from VV Part 1 report.... About us Valiant Varriors are a group of activist investors on the lookout for companies that are priced incorrectly due to the lack of transparency in large listed stocks in Singapore. If the companies themselves don' t want to come clean, we will help them along the way. All our efforts is in the valiant attempt to help SGX be more investor friendly and promote The Lion city to the rest of the world. Contact: [email protected] like2learn      ( Date: 18-May-2019 23:12) Posted:      Can anyone find VV contact in their Wix website ?
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like2learn Veteran	19-May-2019 16:10        like2learn About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	curious_moo, indeed - i cannot think of a better way to put the point across.  i think whether we short or we long, the most impt thing is to have an open mind and learn from each other. maybe some hv negative experience, i also lost a lot in investing but we have to move on. there isn' t much point in simply posting - XXX(not only BW, but rest of stocks) is a fraud, illegal, will go to 0 etc without substantiating. the pblm is some less informed people(whether buy or sell) might be mislead. everyone makes mistakes in investing, no one has a perfect winning record. but knowledge can increase chances of winning.  why not make this world a better place by providing more informed posts ?  curious_moo      ( Date: 19-May-2019 14:17) Posted: i think nobody reached that verdict that BWL is doing MLM, that is for the authorities to confirm. most of us are simply explaining what MLM is because to alot of pple here doesnt seem to understand what BR and VV reports are saying. and without understanding, alot of the debated points are not quite valid. whether BWL = MLM, its up for individuals to guess. just to confirm that most of us are not vested in this, we hope to provide a broader view of things for any new investors who want to jump into this ship, so that informed decisions are made while understanding the risks that goes with it, rather than one-sided biased views from vested holders. pls do not get us wrong. beng1102      ( Date: 19-May-2019 13:14) Posted: So many in Singapore seem to reach the MLM verdict but so far authority in China has not confirmed BWI business model is MLM.  Maybe one day they would say something but for now it is more like " 皇 帝 不 急 ， 急 死 太 监 " .
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curious_moo Master	19-May-2019 14:26        curious_moo About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	IMHO, the quality of the product is secondary. the key question is if the current demand is due to genuine public interest of a good facial product, or mostly due to the greed for commission and rewards that drive the new purchases (by sales reps). because if its the latter, we question the sustainability of such a model (be it speculated MLM or franchise or Direct Selling).   investshare      ( Date: 19-May-2019 14:19) Posted: Already warned u guys investshare      ( Date: 21-Aug-2017 09:26) Posted: Products selling through normal channel subject to advertisement act. But for MLM, it is through face to face and high pressure which are off record. A Nuskin guy tried to persuade me, say their product can reverse aging process by identifying the DNA and repair it, and thus can cure most disease. I told him if so good, they should not need to sell it this way, they just need to apply FDA approval to qualify it as drug. Because once approved, insurer will pay for it, and demand will be huge. That guy said, the company want to benefit more people by going MLM. You believe
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investshare Supreme	19-May-2019 14:21        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Already warned u guys. investshare      ( Date: 21-Aug-2017 10:04) Posted: No doubt MLM company could be good investment as it could potentially earn a lot of money. But this is the kind of company I would not touch. Anderton      ( Date: 21-Aug-2017 09:28) Posted: I think we can talk till cow come home but share price is showing differently. Even so i still not dare to enter
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investshare Supreme	19-May-2019 14:19        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Already warned u guys investshare      ( Date: 21-Aug-2017 09:26) Posted: Products selling through normal channel subject to advertisement act. But for MLM, it is through face to face and high pressure which are off record. A Nuskin guy tried to persuade me, say their product can reverse aging process by identifying the DNA and repair it, and thus can cure most disease. I told him if so good, they should not need to sell it this way, they just need to apply FDA approval to qualify it as drug. Because once approved, insurer will pay for it, and demand will be huge. That guy said, the company want to benefit more people by going MLM. You believe? risktaker      ( Date: 21-Aug-2017 08:10) Posted: i think that is the standard retailer margin.... take for instance SK II skin products ... their cost is way below hundred (i cant reveal) but they are selling @ 300 .... which is around 3 to 4 times their cost...its the same.... even the diamond mask of another brand which cost close to 1000 bucks are so cheap to make lol When you buy SK II product you r paying for their brand advertisement... and their rental in highend shopping outlet... their package ... their wages... their shipment cost... Everything...  Just go to the manufacturer for those masks products u know.... They will ask you what you want... look young, healthy skin, wrinkle free they have a full list of menu for you to select what you want for your mask or lotion... then you give them ur package design... they will do it for you... in SK II case... their product is slightly unique because they give the manufacturer their own rice thingy to be mix in.... Bestworld is selling products thru MLM but it doesnt mean their products is of low standard... its the same...
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curious_moo Master	19-May-2019 14:17        curious_moo About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i think nobody reached that verdict that BWL is doing MLM, that is for the authorities to confirm. most of us are simply explaining what MLM is because to alot of pple here doesnt seem to understand what BR and VV reports are saying. and without understanding, alot of the debated points are not quite valid. whether BWL = MLM, its up for individuals to guess. just to confirm that most of us are not vested in this, we hope to provide a broader view of things for any new investors who want to jump into this ship, so that informed decisions are made while understanding the risks that goes with it, rather than one-sided biased views from vested holders. pls do not get us wrong. beng1102      ( Date: 19-May-2019 13:14) Posted: So many in Singapore seem to reach the MLM verdict but so far authority in China has not confirmed BWI business model is MLM.  Maybe one day they would say something but for now it is more like " 皇 帝 不 急 ， 急 死 太 监 " .
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Goldfinger Supreme	19-May-2019 13:29        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Once Company relist - headed South. So much negativism - Pls tell me how to short?
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beng1102 Elite	19-May-2019 13:14        beng1102 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So many in Singapore seem to reach the MLM verdict but so far authority in China has not confirmed BWI business model is MLM.  Maybe one day they would say something but for now it is more like " 皇 帝 不 急 ， 急 死 太 监 " .
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Shifu8888 Supreme	19-May-2019 12:54        Shifu8888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes yes yes. These short sellers will talk down the stock to &0 and then double-buy and then released info to state they had made mistake and the stock should be worth $2. Lol.
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kerier Veteran	19-May-2019 11:28        kerier About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	thats about the only way they can gather info if the franchisees are not opened regularly. the stock is not worth zero but with the china portion taken out, should be below $1.
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Shifu8888 Supreme	19-May-2019 08:46        Shifu8888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	VW quoted wechat conversations. This is a flimsy and desperate move to talk down BW. We all know wechat conversation can be doctored. Yes indeed, VW has hard time proving the wrongs of BW. I would rather wait for PwC final findings.
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