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gregtan123 Supreme	14-May-2020 13:29        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	1.3 million buy queue at 3.70 SGD is Ah Gong backing or fake queue?
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famouspinky Supreme	14-May-2020 13:27        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Never compare a rankless country with a number 1 in the world. How can a commoner be the same as a Forbes top 10? It's ridiculous. Surin888      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:22) Posted: China Labour Day long holidays travellers hit record high. That shows people still love to travel after confinement. Hopefully global virus can be under control soon. I guess same thing will happen, air business will rebound.  pasttime      ( Date: 14-May-2020 12:31) Posted: don' t  like that la.  want to fire so many people. most industry has hit wall due to this sudden covid-19. few can plan for things like that. think they will show some recovery plan when things are clearer. with the major economies opening up, there is light. next 2 years is going to be tough. their conversion mcb price of 4.84 at 10 years is a conservative estimates of where it will be in 10 years. no certainty as things changed over time. after  this crisis the weaker competitors got wipe out and business can be easier. jet a1 cheaper, pend up business travel, tourist traffic. boeing, airbus stop work also meant lesser increased competition.
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gregtan123 Supreme	14-May-2020 13:27        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes but banks are very expensive now bro. Unless u tell me UOB 16 bucks, I buy and hold. OR DBS 15? or OCBC 7.50?  Note Hin Leong, Zenrock their expsoure on the default + Pandemic risk of default loans higher etc. I think macroeconomics wise now banks valuation too rich. SQ also slightly hence MCB bro. MCB soi cheap.  uiop1223      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:24) Posted: If wanna bet long term, issit bank a better choice? Not to mention the potential of merger of ocbc and uob by DBS. Buying uob or ocbc may be better? Possible M&A target by DBS in loooong term? gregtan123      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:12) Posted: Depends. Im inclined to either sell 95%. away at a loss at 0.001 in the worst case. the rest keep and subscribe? Overall, im SHORT Singapore, meaning personally I think Singapore goes ZERO 50 years from now. most of my financial positions reflect that. Just nice buy this bond to hedge in case Singapore continue to huat tua tua under our 4G and 5G leadership. for me, there' s an elemeht of LT portfolio risk management involved too.
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famouspinky Supreme	14-May-2020 13:25        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ur stance of DBs to $40 with ur idea? Too bad it won't happen. uiop1223      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:24) Posted: If wanna bet long term, issit bank a better choice? Not to mention the potential of merger of ocbc and uob by DBS. Buying uob or ocbc may be better? Possible M&A target by DBS in loooong term? gregtan123      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:12) Posted: Depends. Im inclined to either sell 95%. away at a loss at 0.001 in the worst case. the rest keep and subscribe? Overall, im SHORT Singapore, meaning personally I think Singapore goes ZERO 50 years from now. most of my financial positions reflect that. Just nice buy this bond to hedge in case Singapore continue to huat tua tua under our 4G and 5G leadership. for me, there' s an elemeht of LT portfolio risk management involved too.
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uiop1223 Supreme	14-May-2020 13:24        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If wanna bet long term, issit bank a better choice? Not to mention the potential of merger of ocbc and uob by DBS. Buying uob or ocbc may be better? Possible M&A target by DBS in loooong term? gregtan123      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:12) Posted: Depends. Im inclined to either sell 95%. away at a loss at 0.001 in the worst case. the rest keep and subscribe? Overall, im SHORT Singapore, meaning personally I think Singapore goes ZERO 50 years from now. most of my financial positions reflect that. Just nice buy this bond to hedge in case Singapore continue to huat tua tua under our 4G and 5G leadership. for me, there' s an elemeht of LT portfolio risk management involved too.  TA_Expert      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:09) Posted: Will you subscribe the MCB eventually after 20 May if you are unable to sell them away? You mentioned about $10K, right? So meaning that you will spend $10K or you just let the MCB goes into nil value aka losing $1K
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Surin888 Senior	14-May-2020 13:22        Surin888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	China Labour Day long holidays travellers hit record high. That shows people still love to travel after confinement. Hopefully global virus can be under control soon. I guess same thing will happen, air business will rebound.  pasttime      ( Date: 14-May-2020 12:31) Posted: don' t  like that la.  want to fire so many people. most industry has hit wall due to this sudden covid-19. few can plan for things like that. think they will show some recovery plan when things are clearer. with the major economies opening up, there is light. next 2 years is going to be tough. their conversion mcb price of 4.84 at 10 years is a conservative estimates of where it will be in 10 years. no certainty as things changed over time. after  this crisis the weaker competitors got wipe out and business can be easier. jet a1 cheaper, pend up business travel, tourist traffic. boeing, airbus stop work also meant lesser increased competition.   Oldman278      ( Date: 14-May-2020 11:31) Posted: I MAY consider to break my piggy bank just to buy 1 lot to pity them ONLY when they 1. Fired the whole top management team 2. Disclose the actual loss 3. 6 month sales forecast 4. Restructure plan Why must we all see on hindsight? Don?t we all learn from Hyflux?? Till now the management all keeping quiet and does not come out with a real concrete plan.. pay them so high salary for what?? Jz like our Gs.. everytime only say and do things on the hindsight.. i think pay ah nay cheap cheap can do a better job! For those still can salvage some cash from it, In my opinion should really consider cut lost. This SIA saga is not an easy game cos there are just many many hidden agenda behind it.. My 2cts worth.. dyodd
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gregtan123 Supreme	14-May-2020 13:22        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	dont be greedy. 0.004 or 0.005 good enough haha. but it may go ZERO. don' t anyhow buy hor unless u have money to gamble n lose. Don' t buy is my advice. CauseDow likely down. SQ results BAO JIA dogshit.  mrwise      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:21) Posted: The rights may chiong up again from $0.002 to above $0.01....
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Oldman278 Senior	14-May-2020 13:22        Oldman278 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	U mean they handled well if not because of the FWs? famouspinky      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:20) Posted: 300 000 fws, 20 000 from fw and still counting. How many affected sgporeans Vs fws? Let's be realistic. Oldman278      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:18) Posted: Agree and ur management style is quite sound.. as for me , i am also SHORT singapore as well..totally hopeless.. sad to look at the highly paid clowns and still want to do acrobats... Cannot even handle such a simple covid properly...
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famouspinky Supreme	14-May-2020 13:21        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How many sgporeans jobs and businesses got affected? That's why work for gvt best. Iron rice bowl. famouspinky      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:20) Posted: 300 000 fws, 20 000 from fw and still counting. How many affected sgporeans Vs fws? Let's be realistic. Oldman278      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:18) Posted: Agree and ur management style is quite sound.. as for me , i am also SHORT singapore as well..totally hopeless.. sad to look at the highly paid clowns and still want to do acrobats... Cannot even handle such a simple covid properly...
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mrwise Supreme	14-May-2020 13:21        mrwise About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The rights may chiong up again from $0.002 to above $0.01....
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gregtan123 Supreme	14-May-2020 13:20        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	A lot of buyers at 0.002 buying up haha. Wah so nice ah BB. Tbh this is purely gambling. not greedy a few pips sell liao haha. got 6 days to play 4D da siao with the BBs.
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famouspinky Supreme	14-May-2020 13:20        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	300 000 fws, 20 000 from fw and still counting. How many affected sgporeans Vs fws? Let's be realistic. Oldman278      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:18) Posted: Agree and ur management style is quite sound.. as for me , i am also SHORT singapore as well..totally hopeless.. sad to look at the highly paid clowns and still want to do acrobats... Cannot even handle such a simple covid properly... gregtan123      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:12) Posted: Depends. Im inclined to either sell 95%. away at a loss at 0.001 in the worst case. the rest keep and subscribe? Overall, im SHORT Singapore, meaning personally I think Singapore goes ZERO 50 years from now. most of my financial positions reflect that. Just nice buy this bond to hedge in case Singapore continue to huat tua tua under our 4G and 5G leadership. for me, there' s an elemeht of LT portfolio risk management involved too.
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t0RNAD0 Member	14-May-2020 13:19        t0RNAD0 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	See that u only long clearbridge. Hahaha  Oldman278      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:18) Posted: Agree and ur management style is quite sound.. as for me , i am also SHORT singapore as well..totally hopeless.. sad to look at the highly paid clowns and still want to do acrobats... Cannot even handle such a simple covid properly... gregtan123      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:12) Posted: Depends. Im inclined to either sell 95%. away at a loss at 0.001 in the worst case. the rest keep and subscribe? Overall, im SHORT Singapore, meaning personally I think Singapore goes ZERO 50 years from now. most of my financial positions reflect that. Just nice buy this bond to hedge in case Singapore continue to huat tua tua under our 4G and 5G leadership. for me, there' s an elemeht of LT portfolio risk management involved too.
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vivacious Supreme	14-May-2020 13:19        vivacious About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	3.50 coming
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Oldman278 Senior	14-May-2020 13:18        Oldman278 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree and ur management style is quite sound.. as for me , i am also SHORT singapore as well..totally hopeless.. sad to look at the highly paid clowns and still want to do acrobats... Cannot even handle such a simple covid properly... gregtan123      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:12) Posted: Depends. Im inclined to either sell 95%. away at a loss at 0.001 in the worst case. the rest keep and subscribe? Overall, im SHORT Singapore, meaning personally I think Singapore goes ZERO 50 years from now. most of my financial positions reflect that. Just nice buy this bond to hedge in case Singapore continue to huat tua tua under our 4G and 5G leadership. for me, there' s an elemeht of LT portfolio risk management involved too.  TA_Expert      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:09) Posted: Will you subscribe the MCB eventually after 20 May if you are unable to sell them away? You mentioned about $10K, right? So meaning that you will spend $10K or you just let the MCB goes into nil value aka losing $1K
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commoner Senior	14-May-2020 13:15        commoner About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "I cannot post anymore... Dont come to my thread!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Really? Hong gan liao! Stocky901      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:13) Posted: Support is around 3.05 / 3.10. Rights is around 0.05 / 0.10.
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Stocky901 Supreme	14-May-2020 13:13        Stocky901 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Support is around 3.05 / 3.10. Rights is around 0.05 / 0.10.
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gregtan123 Supreme	14-May-2020 13:12        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Depends. Im inclined to either sell 95%. away at a loss at 0.001 in the worst case. the rest keep and subscribe? Overall, im SHORT Singapore, meaning personally I think Singapore goes ZERO 50 years from now. most of my financial positions reflect that. Just nice buy this bond to hedge in case Singapore continue to huat tua tua under our 4G and 5G leadership. for me, there' s an elemeht of LT portfolio risk management involved too.  TA_Expert      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:09) Posted: Will you subscribe the MCB eventually after 20 May if you are unable to sell them away? You mentioned about $10K, right? So meaning that you will spend $10K or you just let the MCB goes into nil value aka losing $1K? gregtan123      ( Date: 14-May-2020 12:41) Posted: The Strategy is this. The base value of the MCB is 0.001 meaning as long as it trades, there' s a 0.001 value till 20 May at least. So your cap loss is 500 + 50 = 550 SGD including brokerage. In the worst case, it is lose 1000 + 25 comms = 1025 SGD. All of which to me is a small amount. But why then do I buy MCB at 0.002. I want to buy at 0,001 but 230 million ahead of me, so not possible. Why MCB or SQ?  (1) MCB is the least costly method now in the ST to catch any SQ rebound from 14 May to 20 May. If SQ continues to trend down till end of May, I accept. But note G/Temasek may step in to support any time. Reason: G already said they step in to BACK SQ.  I am NOT betting on SQ.  SQ and their management are jokes. Im betting on Singapore G. This is ELECTION Year. And moving forward say SQ backed/endorsed by G bonds 10 years from now default. Will the PAP survive it? No. So 1k + in the worst case pay 1 SGD per MCB to exercise say 10,000 SGD worth of bond, take it as a Bet on Singapore. SQ is more like Singtel than NOL or Hyflux. This one we can agree to disagree.  (2) MCB yesterday range was: 0.001 to 0.019. Meaning there' s a good range. As long as u r not greedy, if DOW goes well or G sudden push, i think 0.003 or 0.004 or even 0.005 can sell and make some Kopi Lui. Note I am only Exposed 1k. Other trades cover this another day. This is more for fun since Medical so boring. Oils haha im vested liao.  (3) Everyone is SELLING SQ cause Tonight Results. People EXPECT shares to tank tomorrow. I agree 75% tank but todaymay have priced in the Bad Results since SQ and the media already try to prepare the ground for it. And it may also be saved by Dow. If Dow up, it may go up tomorropw or the days to come. But of course could be double whammy, dow down + SQ ultimate shit results. But even this position I accept. Those who bought yesterdaty from 0.002 to 0.019 + ALL the SQ shares + SQ rights LOSE even more than me. I go with the flow.
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TA_Expert Supreme	14-May-2020 13:09        TA_Expert About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "The World has changed"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Will you subscribe the MCB eventually after 20 May if you are unable to sell them away? You mentioned about $10K, right? So meaning that you will spend $10K or you just let the MCB goes into nil value aka losing $1K? gregtan123      ( Date: 14-May-2020 12:41) Posted: The Strategy is this. The base value of the MCB is 0.001 meaning as long as it trades, there' s a 0.001 value till 20 May at least. So your cap loss is 500 + 50 = 550 SGD including brokerage. In the worst case, it is lose 1000 + 25 comms = 1025 SGD. All of which to me is a small amount. But why then do I buy MCB at 0.002. I want to buy at 0,001 but 230 million ahead of me, so not possible. Why MCB or SQ?  (1) MCB is the least costly method now in the ST to catch any SQ rebound from 14 May to 20 May. If SQ continues to trend down till end of May, I accept. But note G/Temasek may step in to support any time. Reason: G already said they step in to BACK SQ.  I am NOT betting on SQ.  SQ and their management are jokes. Im betting on Singapore G. This is ELECTION Year. And moving forward say SQ backed/endorsed by G bonds 10 years from now default. Will the PAP survive it? No. So 1k + in the worst case pay 1 SGD per MCB to exercise say 10,000 SGD worth of bond, take it as a Bet on Singapore. SQ is more like Singtel than NOL or Hyflux. This one we can agree to disagree.  (2) MCB yesterday range was: 0.001 to 0.019. Meaning there' s a good range. As long as u r not greedy, if DOW goes well or G sudden push, i think 0.003 or 0.004 or even 0.005 can sell and make some Kopi Lui. Note I am only Exposed 1k. Other trades cover this another day. This is more for fun since Medical so boring. Oils haha im vested liao.  (3) Everyone is SELLING SQ cause Tonight Results. People EXPECT shares to tank tomorrow. I agree 75% tank but todaymay have priced in the Bad Results since SQ and the media already try to prepare the ground for it. And it may also be saved by Dow. If Dow up, it may go up tomorropw or the days to come. But of course could be double whammy, dow down + SQ ultimate shit results. But even this position I accept. Those who bought yesterdaty from 0.002 to 0.019 + ALL the SQ shares + SQ rights LOSE even more than me. I go with the flow.  t0RNAD0      ( Date: 14-May-2020 11:44) Posted: People already say is like buy 4D/Toto...  You still ask what strategy ?
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gregtan123 Supreme	14-May-2020 13:08        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ah gong support not in this way la. Ah Gong thru temasek thru foreign banks/runners can buy and push the SQ price up. if not that day Ex-Rights everybody though drop, SQ up 20% cause the SG Shorts. 0.81 go to ZERO. then SG so nice give 0.30 back? All these behind the scenes ah gong moving la. Not so simple. Anyway im NOT here to convicne anyone to buy SQ. In fact, i may join the shorts of the SQ mother share. I do hope today or tomorrow SQ share can go 3.40 lor.  uiop1223      ( Date: 14-May-2020 13:05) Posted: Theres no way ah gong will do more. If they want the share price to go up, the way is partial offer or offer to privatize at premium price of say $8? No. None of these happen Ah gong and heng zai say support means provide funding and ensure SIA not go bankrupt. They are not supporting the share price nor to protect retail shareholders who refuse to cut loss in early march.
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