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jack_ng
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23-Aug-2021 14:01
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When you invest in the stock market you are taking a risk and if the INVESTOR are having a doomsday scenario I think they should wait until the market collaspse and they may pick and choose, then again they may still think that the market will go lower as its all gloom and doom JT shares prices did appreciated and is it very ex now ? as mention by Calmroom the PE and earning potential are all there for you to make a judgement call, you may not be able predict the future but you can certainly make a weighted guess, cos like some INVESTOR mention it may drop like a stone , so all we can do is make the guess and don' t invest beyond your means  or wait for the market to ............   |
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Calmroom
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23-Aug-2021 13:18
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Actually, I rely on facts, figures and logic. I guess it is more accurate to say I' m optimistic, instead of confident, that JT can do well this year. What we know is its earnings and NAV have become very different from the past. So has the demand for DMF and its ASP. Logical for share price to rise with profit and NAV, but it' s true cannot predict the future. My personal TP for JT is see 9c+ already very happy!
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23-Aug-2021 13:08
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I see in the financial report the trade receivables has increased from 600+m RMB to 800+m. Any expert knows how to interpret this? I suppose these should be referring to orders delivered and orders pending? Inventories remain same at 30+m RMB. | ||||
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tritonyeah666
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23-Aug-2021 13:03
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Calmroom: actually Jiutian has already risen 4-5 fold since last year, what makes you confident it can go higher? | ||||
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Calmroom
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23-Aug-2021 12:52
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Then it' s bargain hunting time again! Otherwise very hard to buy cheap cheap with good margins of safety. Some more can choose from so many other stocks not only JT...  :P
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Calmroom
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23-Aug-2021 12:45
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Two more trading days then JT restarts operations. Hope DMF price goes even higher by Thur.  Since JT has been doing annual maintenance for so many years, it should be clever enough to make a lot more  chemicals and put in storage  just before the shutdown. Then can continue to sell and earn profit  while cleaning its factories. :) |
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tritonyeah666
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23-Aug-2021 12:39
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If Dow Jones drop like a brick, correlation is 1. So everything will drop big time, as a flight to safety mindset. The recovery is what separates profitable n good fundamentals company vs the others. DYODD. | ||||
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Calmroom
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23-Aug-2021 12:12
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To further elaborate, if regulators really decide to target liquor companies next, it makes no sense to dump the stock of a company selling DMF like JT. Or dump the stock of a company that builds ships like YZJ.
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Calmroom
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23-Aug-2021 11:59
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An article I came across mentioned liquor could be the next target. Hard to imagine how liquor can " spread like a dangerous fire" to all other sectors.  So the " Fire!" example may not be suitable.
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FrancisLim
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23-Aug-2021 11:51
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when someone shout " Fire" in the theatre, everyone will rush to the exit, irrespective of whether you are seated near the fire or far from the fire..  
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Calmroom
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23-Aug-2021 11:51
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Could also be posting latest price for new customer orders. Think orders usually placed in advance and not ad hoc.  
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Calmroom
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23-Aug-2021 11:48
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JT could be selling what they had already made. Weird for any company not to have made extra and keep in storage in case of sudden  increase in customer orders.
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tritonyeah666
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23-Aug-2021 11:42
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Calmroom: I thought Jiutian is underoing maintenance, how come they are still manage to sell their products at 15,500 today? | ||||
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Calmroom
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23-Aug-2021 11:20
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Eventually, sellers may " learn" they should only dump the stocks that will get affected by each regulatory change, rather than panic dumping indiscriminately.  |
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FrancisLim
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23-Aug-2021 10:53
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Overnight China could pass some regulatory changes or the media would make some ' spritiual' comments and the share price of both HK and China market will tumble.  
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Calmroom
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23-Aug-2021 10:26
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23 Aug: Anyang Jiutian DMF price 15,500. Up another 100.
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Calmroom
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23-Aug-2021 10:23
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China, HK, Taiwan markets all green. Panic over? :) |
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tritonyeah666
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22-Aug-2021 09:25
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I guess its a margin expansion story, assuming production numbers keep up to capitalise on it. But still the usual S chip risks apply, so nothing is confirmed until some bbs wanna play it up like Abundance. And even if so, they usually dont hold S chips for long as they focus on pump and dump as their main profit making strategy for such stocks. | ||||
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jack_ng
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22-Aug-2021 00:00
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Thank you for the sharing and as my chinese is not so good, from the article I had interpreted as DMF prices is setting new high and the company will make profit of RMB 10K/ton (15-5=10K) going forward correct me if im wrong My guess is that JT will post new profit record and healthy profit for the next few quarter unless the prices of DMF drop back to RMB 4-6K selling prices   
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tritonyeah666
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21-Aug-2021 23:19
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https://news.oilchem.net/21-0813-14-7d8c065d6ab238e1.html   [隆 众 聚 焦 ]: DMF的 黄 金 时 代发 布 时 间 : 2021-08-13 14:54   来 源 : 隆 众 资 讯   责 任 编 辑 : 程 遥 
【 导 语 】 : 8月 第 二 周 , 中 国 DMF市 场 涨 价 风 潮 正 如 火 如 荼 进 行 中 , 未 见 丝 毫 回 落 痕 迹 。 龙 头 企 业 挂 牌 价 格 月 上 旬 已 经 连 续 两 次 调 涨 , 突 破 以 往 调 价 规 律 , 目 前 暂 执 行 14300-14500元 /吨 , 月 末 结 算 ; 华 东 地 区 现 货 送 到 价 逼 近 16000元 /吨 , 华 南 市 场 水 涨 船 高 突 破 16000大 关 , 现 货 紧 俏 局 面 未 见 改 善 。 图 1 2020-2021年 国 内 DMF成 本 利 润 图
数 据 来 源 : 隆 众 资 讯
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