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Brianfoo
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18-Nov-2018 23:11
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I already place order sell at 0.195 and its accepted. Any chance tomorrow can sell off? | ||||
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Brianfoo
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18-Nov-2018 22:56
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Just pray this coming week the share price will go up a bit then sell all at least the pain is not so painful... | ||||
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Berani
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18-Nov-2018 22:24
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10 years is too long. if really want to wait 10 years... you should dump oil and gas companies.
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Starship
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18-Nov-2018 22:15
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Brianfoo, did u see my reply to u yest? Here it is again below: I noticed you have sought advice from AK71. But as expected, he won' t advise anyone to buy or sell. Instead, he only tell everyone what he buys and sells and why. Anyway, he had posted his latest top holdings (as below) and you might want to use it for your own consideration and analysis. His numerous blogs also explain why he bought or sold each partcular stock, so you can go anf read his blogs. As you can see, he' s a long-term dividend investor: AK71' s top holdings: 1. Singtel 2. Aims Amp Reit 3. Comfort Delgro 4. Wilmar 5. Ascendas H-Trust 6. Centurion Corp 7. Accordia Golf Trust 8. DBS http://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot.com/2018/09/2nd-update-on-largest-investments-in.html
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lukewong82
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18-Nov-2018 21:42
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https://www.dbs.com.sg/treasures/aics/templatedata/article/equity/data/en/DBSV/012014/EREIT_SP.xml
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justinN
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18-Nov-2018 21:37
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wow... I need to go and take a look at ESR reits - now I am interested to find out more. Luke bro, can help me understand - any potential threats for ESR reit besides the US interest rates hike? |
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Qanghoo
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18-Nov-2018 21:15
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Yep, high return always always associated with high risks.
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lukewong82
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18-Nov-2018 21:09
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Brother, u never learn ur lesson?? u want quick fix? wait end up die faster leh.. 70k can buy 140 lots (140k shares) ESR Reits at 50 cents. Every 3 mth u get around $1450 dividend. 1 Year u get $5800 dividend. After 10 years, u will get $58000 as dividends aka.. u will get back $58000 (dividends) + $70000 (shares) = $128000. At least you treat it as a 10 years fixed deposit lo. AND i pretty sure ESR Reits share price will jump to 60 cents in the next 1 to 2 years at least. Long term it may also hit 80 cents. So when share price chiong, u can sell early, dun have to wait till 10 years. Compared to u holding AsianTV with the risk of AsianTV dropping to a few cents or even suspended if it is unable to service it' s huge debt. In the end, ur remaining $70k may even vanish.
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Brianfoo
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18-Nov-2018 20:48
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Now after this my portfolio is halved to ard 70 K any advice to grow it in a safe and fesiable way and hopefully wont take too long to recover my portfolio? | ||||
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Brianfoo
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18-Nov-2018 20:44
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Yup will heed your advice thanks all for your advices if i state anything wrongly sincerely apologise... | ||||
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lukewong82
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18-Nov-2018 20:29
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waiting 5-10 years to recoup ur losses is better than losing 80% or even 100% of ur $$$ if u keep holding to AsianTV.. Go think about it bro.. I was in the same position as u in 2015 when i bought pacific Radiance. Imagine 3 years ago I never cut loss and switch counter.. today pacific radiance is suspended and even if not suspended only trading at 10 cents. I think I would bang my head against the wall if I had hold on to a falling knife that time.
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Brianfoo
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18-Nov-2018 20:27
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TBH i know now talk about this is too late actually want to sell off all my shares after the dividends but this bombshell really came too fast and sudden... A sudden drop in 50 % just whipped off all my years of hard earned money just like that... its really too hard for me to take | ||||
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Brianfoo
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18-Nov-2018 20:24
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Hi yup i understand but this is really the first time i burnt so badly just in a single day and till now my mind still in a daze thinking have to wait at least 5-10 years just to recoup my loss... | ||||
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lukewong82
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18-Nov-2018 20:05
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Imagine I was stubborn and held on to Pacific Radiance and hoping for the share price to rebound. I think i can go bedok reservior now..
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lukewong82
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18-Nov-2018 20:03
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My own story: In 2015, I bought pacific Radiance at 73 cents. After i bought, the oil price started to drop. Share price also started to drop. I also same position as u.. very worried.. everyday post in forums hoping that ppl will say the oil price will go back $100 and share price of pacific radiance will bounce back. After 2 mths, I noted that oil price keep dropping, my pacific radiance never showed signs of recovery (share price ding dong between 65-71 cents). At that time many ppl started to mention that if oil price continues to drop, those Oil n Gas companies will be in huge debt.. I was so worried that I decided to cut loss when the share price crossed 70 cents for a brief moment (heng.. that 71 cents only appear for a few minutes, after tat share price all the way down and never looked back) and I switch to other undervalued counters like Hock Lian Seng etc.. In the end, I managed to recoup my losses easily from Hock Lian Seng and I am really blessed. Share price of pacific radiance now 10 cents now and is suspended!!! 
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lukewong82
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18-Nov-2018 19:50
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is better to hold reits.. soibuild, etc.. becos the dividend will help u recover ur losses and u know properties in singapore is quite " safe" compared to AsianTV business which is already sunset industry.. At least u know if u buy Singapore industrial reits, u can sleep peacefully. To recoup ur losses, u just need to hold on for 5-10 years, the dividends from the reits will help u recover. I prefer ESR reits over soibuild becos ESR reit is expanding and has the potential for share price increase due to re-rating by fund manager. Soibuild has the potential to involved in merger too and that will be good news. So switching to industrial reits is better than holding to asianTV .. if u look at those companies with high debt, almost all dun end well.. like hyflux, ezion etc.. the share price will keep dropping and dropping. This moment asiantv can be 16 cents, 1 year later it will drop below 10 cents and then 5 cents etc.. especially if they suddenly default in their loan payment due to problem with cash inflow, then u will regret why u never switch to " safer" counters like reits now..
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justinN
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18-Nov-2018 19:24
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I know what you want to hear: 1. MAYbe worth holding till 25c for shortcovering to come in 2. Some BBs MAY come in to burn all the shortists this coming week. 3. Temasek MAY also pump in cash to push the price up to save their reputation. 4. Since CEO also own some shares, he MAY also do his best to save the company from this mess. 5. Worth holding on to your shares - it MAY return to 30c by end of this year after the poor sentiment dissipates. but in all honesty and seriousness, the price MAY drop further also.. lolz |
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Brianfoo
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18-Nov-2018 19:22
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Really appeciate your advice lukewong how about other reits like soilbuild which has higher yield? | ||||
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lukewong82
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18-Nov-2018 19:15
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U decide whether to hold this falling knife (if u look at counters like Ezion dropping from 25 cents to 5 cents etc..) or u prefer to switch to other undervalued counters where u know that there is less chance that the share price will fall drastically and the share price will double when market recovers. Unless there is a white knight coming to rescue for AsianTV.. Since u are so worried, I bet u cant sleep well at nite, cant eat with peace, then my SUGGESTION to you is to switch to other safer undervalued counter with potential of a buy-out aka going private. Or as I mentioned, u can invest in REITS like ESR reits which is quite solid with solid sponsor and give 8% dividend with potential for capital gain as it has just started expansion after merger with Viva. After 10 years, u get 80% of ur capital back as dividend alone + the share price of ESR may have appreciated. I predict ESR reits share price will start rising after fund managers do a re-rating of ESR reits as it is now 4th largest industrial reits. So perhaps in 5 years u will get back ur capital. Compared to holding on to AsianTV which has the risk of sinking below 10 cents .. The above are my own views. At least I provide u with another choice... U keep AsianTV , i bet u will not be able to sleep well for the next few years. But if u buy ESR-reits, u know that u will earn back all ur losses just by holding on 5 to 10 years. Is ur choice.. life is short... There is another way if u want to gain back ur losses fast. Go switch to those 0.1 cents stock like annica etc and hope that one day penny stocks will be pumped up. So if annica rise just by 0.1 cents aka trade at 0.2 cents, u would have already recover all ur losses in a single day when the day penny stocks are in play.
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Brianfoo
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18-Nov-2018 18:51
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Dear all this sudden drop really hit me hard and its too much for me to take am really very afraid it will drop even further this coming week. | ||||
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