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Goldfinger Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:47        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Prop Plunges are usually short lived - but the rises last for years. iinvestor      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:43) Posted: Totally agree. Days of property inflation may be gone as this govt struggles to keep it affordable (both HDB and private) to prevent losing votes. Increasing interest rates and min size constraints etc will keep prices in check. Someone told me property cycles run very long, maybe 20-30 years. Maybe we could be seeing a major downturn soon. Last one 1995 to1998 and the crash was devastating those who remember. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:31) Posted: And yet the young are now constrained by ABSD, LTV and TDSR. Sad. The opportunities we had in the past to make moolah from prop now no longer available for my future generation
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iinvestor Veteran	12-Feb-2019 21:43        iinvestor About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Totally agree. Days of property inflation may be gone as this govt struggles to keep it affordable (both HDB and private) to prevent losing votes. Increasing interest rates and min size constraints etc will keep prices in check. Someone told me property cycles run very long, maybe 20-30 years. Maybe we could be seeing a major downturn soon. Last one 1995 to1998 and the crash was devastating those who remember. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:31) Posted: And yet the young are now constrained by ABSD, LTV and TDSR. Sad. The opportunities we had in the past to make moolah from prop now no longer available for my future generation. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:28) Posted: This is why the seasoned folks like me Trust most in the SG property market - the one thing that will rise together with inflation and growth. Look at SGX - still down compared to 10 years ago. Look at SG property market - each peak will be a higher peak
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Qanghoo Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:36        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What to do.  No imagination to improve interest n/or liquidity.  So much so that over time more n more listed coys here opt to quit.  Better still, instead of concentrating on analysing stocks for what they are worth, the in thing for ar*ehole anal-yeast these days is  to compete  to tikam  on potential privatisation candidates.  That, in effect, is like saying ' yep, we all know, one by one stocks are gonna  close shop until there' s no one left' .  N then ..... what' s left is a superfluous pool of precious  talent who will be left jobless without the bourse to manage.  nqing87      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:17) Posted: yea.. retailers like me have to be cautious when investing a counter cos u never know if the balance sheet of a company is real or not.. and those that continue listing are those who need to keep sucking money from the market via placements etc.. the good ones dont need to continue listed since they dont need to raise cash for further growth.. recently a lot of failed newly listed IPO in terms of financial results (acromec, ayondo, clearbridge, jawala, SLB, synagie) and also some errors in balance sheet or compliance issues (kimly, no signboard, Y ventures).. many new IPOs also list cos the market sentiment towards the sector was good at that point in time.. listing to capitalise on good market sentiment is not the way to go as it hurts shareholders who has to endure the depressed price when the sentiment towards the sector cools down.. if the retail investors do not earn money and most gains goes to BB, then the market will have less retail participants and what will be left will be just the BB traders and funds.. eventually these BB will also go away to other market since there is no money to earn from retailers.. in short, sgx must do smth to instill the confidence back to the market.. dont allow listing of bloodsucking poor performance IPOs and also make sure no hanky panky going on with companies Wind22i      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 18:49) Posted: The problem is many retailers are afraid and have phobia in investing after been duped by countless of stocks which just died... like noble, hyflux, swiber, ezra , etc..
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Goldfinger Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:31        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	And yet the young are now constrained by ABSD, LTV and TDSR. Sad. The opportunities we had in the past to make moolah from prop now no longer available for my future generation. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:28) Posted: This is why the seasoned folks like me Trust most in the SG property market - the one thing that will rise together with inflation and growth. Look at SGX - still down compared to 10 years ago. Look at SG property market - each peak will be a higher peak. nqing87      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:17) Posted: yea.. retailers like me have to be cautious when investing a counter cos u never know if the balance sheet of a company is real or not.. and those that continue listing are those who need to keep sucking money from the market via placements etc.. the good ones dont need to continue listed since they dont need to raise cash for further growth.. recently a lot of failed newly listed IPO in terms of financial results (acromec, ayondo, clearbridge, jawala, SLB, synagie) and also some errors in balance sheet or compliance issues (kimly, no signboard, Y ventures).. many new IPOs also list cos the market sentiment towards the sector was good at that point in time.. listing to capitalise on good market sentiment is not the way to go as it hurts shareholders who has to endure the depressed price when the sentiment towards the sector cools down.. if the retail investors do not earn money and most gains goes to BB, then the market will have less retail participants and what will be left will be just the BB traders and funds.. eventually these BB will also go away to other market since there is no money to earn from retailers.. in short, sgx must do smth to instill the confidence back to the market.. dont allow listing of bloodsucking poor performance IPOs and also make sure no hanky panky going on with companie
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Goldfinger Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:28        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is why the seasoned folks like me Trust most in the SG property market - the one thing that will rise together with inflation and growth. Look at SGX - still down compared to 10 years ago. Look at SG property market - each peak will be a higher peak. nqing87      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:17) Posted: yea.. retailers like me have to be cautious when investing a counter cos u never know if the balance sheet of a company is real or not.. and those that continue listing are those who need to keep sucking money from the market via placements etc.. the good ones dont need to continue listed since they dont need to raise cash for further growth.. recently a lot of failed newly listed IPO in terms of financial results (acromec, ayondo, clearbridge, jawala, SLB, synagie) and also some errors in balance sheet or compliance issues (kimly, no signboard, Y ventures).. many new IPOs also list cos the market sentiment towards the sector was good at that point in time.. listing to capitalise on good market sentiment is not the way to go as it hurts shareholders who has to endure the depressed price when the sentiment towards the sector cools down.. if the retail investors do not earn money and most gains goes to BB, then the market will have less retail participants and what will be left will be just the BB traders and funds.. eventually these BB will also go away to other market since there is no money to earn from retailers.. in short, sgx must do smth to instill the confidence back to the market.. dont allow listing of bloodsucking poor performance IPOs and also make sure no hanky panky going on with companies Wind22i      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 18:49) Posted: The problem is many retailers are afraid and have phobia in investing after been duped by countless of stocks which just died... like noble, hyflux, swiber, ezra , etc..
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nqing87 Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:17        nqing87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yea.. retailers like me have to be cautious when investing a counter cos u never know if the balance sheet of a company is real or not.. and those that continue listing are those who need to keep sucking money from the market via placements etc.. the good ones dont need to continue listed since they dont need to raise cash for further growth.. recently a lot of failed newly listed IPO in terms of financial results (acromec, ayondo, clearbridge, jawala, SLB, synagie) and also some errors in balance sheet or compliance issues (kimly, no signboard, Y ventures).. many new IPOs also list cos the market sentiment towards the sector was good at that point in time.. listing to capitalise on good market sentiment is not the way to go as it hurts shareholders who has to endure the depressed price when the sentiment towards the sector cools down.. if the retail investors do not earn money and most gains goes to BB, then the market will have less retail participants and what will be left will be just the BB traders and funds.. eventually these BB will also go away to other market since there is no money to earn from retailers.. in short, sgx must do smth to instill the confidence back to the market.. dont allow listing of bloodsucking poor performance IPOs and also make sure no hanky panky going on with companies Wind22i      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 18:49) Posted: The problem is many retailers are afraid and have phobia in investing after been duped by countless of stocks which just died... like noble, hyflux, swiber, ezra , etc..
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Leohuat88 Veteran	12-Feb-2019 21:08        Leohuat88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sickapore  Market  what do to?... Garment couldnt care less ...what to do..? Trade elsewhere la..
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Qanghoo Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:06        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Stupid arguement or just anyhow write to make a case, however absurd it may sound.  That' s what they are paid to do .... create sensation !!!!!! Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 20:57) Posted: This Tamara is a pretty poor analyst. famouspinky      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 17:41) Posted: How long is long? Ano 50years? , the delisting trend could be a good sign, says Tamara Henderson, who covers Southeast Asia, Australia, and New Zealand for Bloomberg Economics in Singapore. It creates a situation in which unlisted companies, free of the constraints of quarterly reporting, are more able to focus on long-term growth, thereby stabilizing the economy. ?It?s probably a sign of wealth,? she says
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Goldfinger Supreme	12-Feb-2019 20:57        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This Tamara is a pretty poor analyst. famouspinky      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 17:41) Posted: How long is long? Ano 50years? , the delisting trend could be a good sign, says Tamara Henderson, who covers Southeast Asia, Australia, and New Zealand for Bloomberg Economics in Singapore. It creates a situation in which unlisted companies, free of the constraints of quarterly reporting, are more able to focus on long-term growth, thereby stabilizing the economy. ?It?s probably a sign of wealth,? she says. NextEvolution      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 08:53) Posted: The Incredible Shrinking Singapore Stock Market For the last five years, delistings have outnumbered listings. Does it matter? Not as much as you might think. 12 February 2019 Read here, long article but worth reading about health of SGX https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-02-11/the-incredible-shrinking-singapore-stock-market
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famouspinky Supreme	12-Feb-2019 19:35        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Our under garment enjoy sickness cos this sickness won't affect their pay. We are bounded in a sick economy.
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Qanghoo Supreme	12-Feb-2019 19:14        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	We in the ivory tower still think we are WC (take it whatever u want) n overpay people who don' t seem to be able to rejuvenate things for yrs n yrs.  If the arguement is delisting has meaning, then we might as well consider shutting the mkt for good instead of maintaining a playgrd for chng kays. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 19:04) Posted: I wonder why the chenghu don' t realise that a vibrant and growing stock market and values is very crucial to wealth building for the man in the street.  The reason why companies delist from SGX and others go list in HK and the US, is precisely because our stock market is so poorly and under valued. Why would you as a busienss owner list in SGX, when you get such poor and pitiful valuations. You would see wealth erosion and your HNW friends would laugh at you.  The clever ones would laugh all the way to HK and even other regional SEA markets to list instead.
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Goldfinger Supreme	12-Feb-2019 19:04        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I wonder why the chenghu don' t realise that a vibrant and growing stock market and values is very crucial to wealth building for the man in the street.  The reason why companies delist from SGX and others go list in HK and the US, is precisely because our stock market is so poorly and under valued. Why would you as a busienss owner list in SGX, when you get such poor and pitiful valuations. You would see wealth erosion and your HNW friends would laugh at you.  The clever ones would laugh all the way to HK and even other regional SEA markets to list instead.
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Wind22i Supreme	12-Feb-2019 18:49        Wind22i About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The problem is many retailers are afraid and have phobia in investing after been duped by countless of stocks which just died... like noble, hyflux, swiber, ezra , etc..
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batambird Member	12-Feb-2019 18:40        batambird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Today is another classic day where all markets going green except ours... we are flat for more than a month without much movements...
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Goldfinger Supreme	12-Feb-2019 18:30        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This smacks of the dereliction of SGX and the relevant powers, in building wealth for the common men in the street.  While there is clamp down on property investment activities, the true sad state of the stock market leaves people with little choice and options, but to turn to insurance agents and wealth managers, who charge high commissions and badly structured products.
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famouspinky Supreme	12-Feb-2019 17:41        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How long is long? Ano 50years? , the delisting trend could be a good sign, says Tamara Henderson, who covers Southeast Asia, Australia, and New Zealand for Bloomberg Economics in Singapore. It creates a situation in which unlisted companies, free of the constraints of quarterly reporting, are more able to focus on long-term growth, thereby stabilizing the economy. ?It?s probably a sign of wealth,? she says. NextEvolution      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 08:53) Posted: The Incredible Shrinking Singapore Stock Market For the last five years, delistings have outnumbered listings. Does it matter? Not as much as you might think. 12 February 2019 Read here, long article but worth reading about health of SGX https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-02-11/the-incredible-shrinking-singapore-stock-market
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NextEvolution Elite	12-Feb-2019 08:53        NextEvolution About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The Incredible Shrinking Singapore Stock Market For the last five years, delistings have outnumbered listings. Does it matter? Not as much as you might think. 12 February 2019 Read here, long article but worth reading about health of SGX https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-02-11/the-incredible-shrinking-singapore-stock-market
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