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ecekca
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29-Nov-2016 21:31
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what the chance of genting getting in to Japan. Japan and Korea quite close. Why would they wants to get out of Korea and then go to Japan?
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Goldfinger
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29-Nov-2016 19:15
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Are you serious??? The Japs are the biggest gamblers next to the Chinks.
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buysellbuysell
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29-Nov-2016 17:29
Yells: "someone please sell down low so that others can buy low" |
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If Japan open casino or IR . It'll be rigged by mafia probably. So nothing much to hope also.
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Goldfinger
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29-Nov-2016 11:44
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Another positive twist and it's game on again...
http://sgx.i3investor.com/blogs/sgxstockwarrant/29354.jsp |
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jackblack
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29-Nov-2016 11:08
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http://www.ggrasia.com/low-chance-of-japan-casino-bill-this-year-ms/ low chance of casino bill passing this year? i can' t find any latest news on japan parliament |
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Goldfinger
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29-Nov-2016 08:30
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Actually I'm rather optimistic about the Japan IR prospects - it reminds me about the lead up to winning the Sentosa IR. They will partner the Genting HK cruise liners to ship Chinese tourists to Japanese port cities, build theme parks, build Zouk discos blah blah and focus on the port cities they stand a better chance blah blah etc etc or so the story will go. Then the price will begin to run etc etc | ||||
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buysellbuysell
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29-Nov-2016 08:03
Yells: "someone please sell down low so that others can buy low" |
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They not enough $$$$
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Goldfinger
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29-Nov-2016 07:28
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I rather trust DBS call - if you look at their previous price targets for GENS I was quite surprised to see how "Zhun" they were. Track record matters quite a bit to me IMHO.
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pinkowl
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28-Nov-2016 21:57
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Today, ocbc gave a sell call. Think target 0.75 or something. You all can Google 'i3 genting' | ||||
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ecekca
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28-Nov-2016 21:11
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weird, why they dispose Jeju. no one knows the full picture
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KiLrOy
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25-Nov-2016 17:02
Yells: "I buy only what I can see." |
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While waiting ... enjoy the 0.015 div first paying in DEC. |
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lglg666
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25-Nov-2016 16:51
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Yes.....slowly moving higher 👍 | ||||
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Goldfinger
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25-Nov-2016 16:38
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Just hang on tight and enjoy the ride UP UP and AWAY.  haha.
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blissbao
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25-Nov-2016 16:30
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Unsure  if the Jeju sale is pre-arrange or not..with another interested party.. My friend told me the casino is a sure thing if Najib give the NS bullet train job to Japan..after all china got the East caost rail project already ..( imagine the graft economy  fully exemplified by over billing the country  on the rail project by 25 Billion..how crooked the top politican are.?? ) Genting on the way pass the $1 mark ..it is a good bet...DYODD..
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Goldfinger
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25-Nov-2016 11:17
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This was an aggressive call I thought - but if you look at their track record in past research for GENS - They were generally conservative but spot on.
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sohiss
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25-Nov-2016 10:48
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Capacity to double dividends.  Based on our estimates, GENS has the ability to double its dividends to 6 Scts (6.3% yield) from our FY15F DPS estimate of 3 Scts. With the positive market reaction to its first interim dividend of 1.5 Scts, we believe this will incentivise and encourage management to raise its payout ratio and return more cash to shareholders. Increasing dividend payout does not jeopardise ability to bid for a Japanese casino.  While it is unclear whether the Japanese government will pass legislation to legalise casinos and the exact details of an eventual integrated resort (IR) such as number of tables and non-gaming attractions required are unknown, based on press reports, an IR could cost US$5-10bn. Assuming 50% gearing, GENS' s equity contribution could amount to US$2.5-5.0bn or S$3.55-7.1bn. Based on our estimates, we believe GENS will be able to accumulate up to S$7.1bn worth of cash in five years' time even after raising its annual dividend to 6 Scts. This is premised on (1) S$900-1,200bn in annual operating cashflows over the next five years, (2) S$200m in annual capex. and (3) recent disposal of 50% interest in the Jeju project for S$588m, as well as (4) redemption of its outstanding perpetual securities, and (5) raising debt at GENS' s holding company level with its net debt/(net debt + equity) still comfortable at 24% or 40% level in five years' time. For more details on our calculation, please see the tables overleaf. Redemption of outstanding perpetual securities.  GENS has two outstanding perpetual securities worth S$1.8bn and S$500m that it has the option to call/redeem at par on 12 September 2017 and 18 November 2017 respectively. Assuming the perpetual securities are not redeemed, in September 2022, the distribution rate will step up from the current 5.125% to 6.125% (initial distribution rate of 5.125% plus step-up margin of 1%). While the 1% step-up penalty is low considering the current demands of fixed income investors and GENS is unlikely to be able to issue another perpetual security at such favourable terms, in our view GENS will still likely redeem the perpetual securities as failure to do so will negatively impact its reputation and the future ability for the group and its parent company Genting Berhad to issue other fixed income instruments. In addition, the market is already pricing in GENS calling back its perpetual securities. Doubling FY18 DPS to 6 Scts.  Given our analysis of GENS' s strong cashflow generation and potential funding needs for a Japanese casino, we forecast GENS to distribute 4.5 Scts in dividends ahead of a 6.0-Sct dividend in FY18. While GENS has the ability to pay a 6.0-Sct dividend in FY17, we expect GENS' s management to be more conservative with its dividend payout to assess the strength of the turnaround of its underlying business. DPS ahead of EPS sustainable.  While our projected FY17 and FY18 DPS of 4.5 and 6.0 Scts are higher than our estimated FY17 and FY18F EPS of 3.1 and 4.5 Scts respectively, we believe the dividend payout is sustainable. This is because of GENS&rsquo s large retained earnings of S$1.7bn, strong cashflow generation and the ability to distribute dividends as a return of capital as its share capital base stands at S$5.5bn. Raising TP to S$1.15.  With our base-case scenario of GENS redeeming its perpetual securities, raising its dividend and optimising its capital structure, we raised our DCF-based TP to S$1.15 from S$0.91. Our higher valuation is a result of a lower beta of 1.0x from 1.05x as a consequence of investors rewarding GENS for increasing its dividends. GENS was previously trading a high free cash flow yield but this can now be realised with an increase in dividends. In addition, we also raised GENS&rsquo s target gearing to 30% from 12% currently, as the company optimises its balance sheet. Our TP valuation of S$1.15 implies a EV/EBTIDA multiple of 12.9x, close to GENS' s average forward EV/EBITDA multiple of 13.1x. Continues to trade at a discount to historical valuation range and Macau peers.  While GENS' s share price has rallied over 25% since its 3Q16 results on the back of its maiden interim dividend and signs of potential turnaround in its underlying business, we believe the rally has further legs to run. This is because GENS still trades at 10.3x FY17F EV/EBITDA, which is below &ndash 1SD of its mean of 10.9x and average EV/EBITDA multiple of 13.1x. In addition, GENS trades at a c.30% discount to its Macau peers on a forward EV/EBITDA basis which is -1SD of its mean EV/EBITDA differential. With prospects of increased dividends going forward, recovery in earnings and optionality from a potential Japanese casino in the medium term, in our view GENS can rerate closer to its average EV/EBITDA multiple of 13.1x and narrow its discount to its Macau peers. Reiterate BUY.  With a revised TP of S$1.15, we reiterate our BUY call. We believe the recent share price rally can continue given the double act of higher dividends as well as prospects of an earnings recovery following a two-year downturn. |
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sohiss
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25-Nov-2016 10:44
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As GENS is expected to increase dividends, thereby optimising its balance sheet, we raise our DCF-based TP to S$1.15 from S$0.91 as we impute a lower beta of 1.0x from 1.05x and increase the target gearing to 30% from 12% previously. Our valuation excludes any Japan casino. |
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sohiss
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25-Nov-2016 10:43
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Potential doubling of dividend to trigger further re-rating.  We maintain our BUY call on Genting Singapore (GENS) with a revised TP of S$1.15. Based on our analysis of GENS' s cashflow generation and net cash of c.S$3.7bn, balanced against the redemption of its perpetual securities and potential bid for a Japanese casino, we estimate that GENS has the ability to increase its dividend to 6 Scts per annum up (translating to a 6.3% yield) from our FY15F DPS 3 Scts. We believe the positive market response following the declaration of a 1.5-Sct interim dividend will encourage GENS&rsquo s management to return more cash back to its shareholders. This in turn should continue the rerating post the 3Q16 results. BUY ahead of earnings recovery in FY17.  Following two tough years, we believe now is the opportune time to buy into a highly cash-generative business in a two-player oligopoly. We believe 2017 will mark a recovery in earnings (22% jump in adjusted EBITDA) due to (i) recovery in VIP volumes as volumes bottom out this year (we have penciled in a 3% improvement), (ii) normalising VIP win rate to the 2.85% theoretical rate from c.2.6% in 9M16, and (iii) easing of bad debts given GENS&rsquo s more selective and conservative credit policy over the past year. Still on depressed valuations.  Despite the recent rally, GENS still offers compelling value, as it trades at 10.6x FY17F EV/EBITDA, which is below &ndash 1SD of its mean of 10.9x. In addition, it trades at a c.30% discount to its Macau peers on an EV/EBITDA basis which close to -1SD of its mean EV/EBITDA differential. With increasing dividends, earnings turnaround in sight and potential Japanese casino in the medium term, we believe GENS can rerate closer to its average EV/EBITDA multiple of 13.1x. |
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Goldfinger
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25-Nov-2016 09:48
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My let go price now revised significantly higher than my earlier target. | ||||
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tormater
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25-Nov-2016 09:26
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From my observation,within 1 week of XD, the price fluctuates too much. Wait until mid next week too stabilize.
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