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Rosesyrup Master	04-Dec-2013 19:01        Rosesyrup About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Get your own opinion, don't follow blindly."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Despite  my bullishness about Trio (except for Asiason cos I don't really understand what they do), still can't deny they are currently plummenting. Friday coming, shall see ba. one688easy      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 18:51) Posted: Alex so stupid ? wanglausern      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 18:46) Posted: I know of angmoh conmen who hold PhD degrees. From what I know this chow angmoh has got no means on his own to buy  up the substantial stake in Blu. He's merely acting on their instructions.  Anyway it doesn't matter now cos the deal will not go through.
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one688easy Member	04-Dec-2013 18:51        one688easy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Alex so stupid ? wanglausern      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 18:46) Posted: I know of angmoh conmen who hold PhD degrees. From what I know this chow angmoh has got no means on his own to buy  up the substantial stake in Blu. He's merely acting on their instructions.  Anyway it doesn't matter now cos the deal will not go through.  Rosesyrup      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:48) Posted: That Angmoh you speaks of, not your average ang moh. That Angmoh was once a: Hold an Econ degree => Not only an economic person but also an economist. Sure he got the tools and knowledge to do a proper valuation on any investment. But whether his valuation is correct or not is another issue. Head of Metal and  mining  in Citibank  for 10 years => No capability can climb up and hold on to that seat for 10 years? One of the highest paid CEO in Canada in 2010=> Reinforced his ability, not capable who want to hire with such salary? His previous firm, SouthGobi Resources  grew 60+% in 2010 => > > Good growth but might be due to local government support Currently holding leadership position in 3 other firms, besides Blumont. 2 out of 3 of these firms are listed firms. ==> > > Say something about his credibility. Listed firms always avoid having dubious character on their board, as doing so would depress their share price. Age: 38 only===> > > Still a long way to go. If he decided to cheat now, he is destorying his own career prospect. His current  stake in Blumont only 1.3millions====> > > His previous  annual pay from SouthGlobi is more than 3millions=> > > > He need to resort to  con and destory his own career prospect just to save his stake in Blumont, which is equivalent to only half his annual salary? Worth it? But  cccx is right, if we consider  Blumont's  current financial reports only, that business is worthless at all.  Albeit I ruled out the possbility that Alex is a con artist,  there is still a chance that he might be wrong. We shall see. Since this is Liongold thread, I shall not  continue further.
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wanglausern Senior	04-Dec-2013 18:46        wanglausern About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I know of angmoh conmen who hold PhD degrees. From what I know this chow angmoh has got no means on his own to buy  up the substantial stake in Blu. He's merely acting on their instructions.  Anyway it doesn't matter now cos the deal will not go through.  Rosesyrup      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:48) Posted: That Angmoh you speaks of, not your average ang moh. That Angmoh was once a: Hold an Econ degree => Not only an economic person but also an economist. Sure he got the tools and knowledge to do a proper valuation on any investment. But whether his valuation is correct or not is another issue. Head of Metal and  mining  in Citibank  for 10 years => No capability can climb up and hold on to that seat for 10 years? One of the highest paid CEO in Canada in 2010=> Reinforced his ability, not capable who want to hire with such salary? His previous firm, SouthGobi Resources  grew 60+% in 2010 => > > Good growth but might be due to local government support Currently holding leadership position in 3 other firms, besides Blumont. 2 out of 3 of these firms are listed firms. ==> > > Say something about his credibility. Listed firms always avoid having dubious character on their board, as doing so would depress their share price. Age: 38 only===> > > Still a long way to go. If he decided to cheat now, he is destorying his own career prospect. His current  stake in Blumont only 1.3millions====> > > His previous  annual pay from SouthGlobi is more than 3millions=> > > > He need to resort to  con and destory his own career prospect just to save his stake in Blumont, which is equivalent to only half his annual salary? Worth it? But  cccx is right, if we consider  Blumont's  current financial reports only, that business is worthless at all.  Albeit I ruled out the possbility that Alex is a con artist,  there is still a chance that he might be wrong. We shall see. Since this is Liongold thread, I shall not  continue further.     starlene      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:21) Posted: Just have lunch at Buffet Town with a group of analysts..better don't add for the trio..even for Lion..the directors may be bankrupted if not successful in their suits..interactive brokers have US79mil against them -a total of 10 directors/ssh..the trio may be suspended by MAS/SGX the lose all capital..the angmo at Bluemont may be a con job to lure retail investors in so all theses SSHs can sell..seems quiote true..watch from the sidelines better
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wanglausern Senior	04-Dec-2013 18:39        wanglausern About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	" the angmo at Bluemont may be a con job to lure retail investors in so all theses SSHs can sell..."     That was what I had been warning everybody here from day one, but was being accused of being an agent of Goldman Sach and a short-seller. I feel so sorry for those of you who  refused to take heed of me and as a result have lost your pants.  Better luck next round.  starlene      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:21) Posted: Just have lunch at Buffet Town with a group of analysts..better don't add for the trio..even for Lion..the directors may be bankrupted if not successful in their suits..interactive brokers have US79mil against them -a total of 10 directors/ssh..the trio may be suspended by MAS/SGX the lose all capital..the angmo at Bluemont may be a con job to lure retail investors in so all theses SSHs can sell..seems quiote true..watch from the sidelines better Wisely      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 12:49) Posted: Yah, better not touch the trio and its links...After reading today's BT my assumption is even if they win the lawsuit they wont survive MAS/SGX code of conduct. Apparently those directors  already breached their duties liao. This one gone le......btw i got to kudo's the CEO for asking the SGX to hurry up the investigation
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Rosesyrup Master	04-Dec-2013 18:31        Rosesyrup About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Get your own opinion, don't follow blindly."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Haha, yeah thanks for replying. But I suggest we just ignore him. I already reported him, but Admin only banned his account for 5 days- nothing much we can do also except for depriving him of  attention. Oh yup, true that Angmoh was sacked from his previous job in SouthGlobi. Reason for sacking: -SouthGlobi changed ownership to under  Rio Tinto, Angmoh was hired by the previous owner.  New owner  Rio Tinto wanted " Kahkey Lang" to take leadership. -Angmoh offended the  Mongolian Goverment, if he  was allowed to stay, the company would have difficulty continuing  its operation.    Can verify here: http://business.financialpost.com/2012/09/12/southgobi-resources-fires-ceo-after-chalco-drops-bid/   To be clear and honest, I did shorted BLumont in the morning=> just to ride with the poor  market sentimental. Still working on Blumont valuation, faced some difficulties cos lots of uncertainties here, but will share once I am done.    starlene      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 18:20) Posted: Sorri I amy be wrong..reported a no of times..'the angmo was sacked from his previous job" ..just to highlight points not meant to critcise,,becoz there is an ass in this forum never buy or sell but went round to insult pple here..previously I f him and asked him not to talk cock..Rosesyrup..u know wad I mean Rosesyrup      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:48) Posted: That Angmoh you speaks of, not your average ang moh. That Angmoh was once a: Hold an Econ degree => Not only an economic person but also an economist. Sure he got the tools and knowledge to do a proper valuation on any investment. But whether his valuation is correct or not is another issue. Head of Metal and  mining  in Citibank  for 10 years => No capability can climb up and hold on to that seat for 10 years? One of the highest paid CEO in Canada in 2010=> Reinforced his ability, not capable who want to hire with such salary? His previous firm, SouthGobi Resources  grew 60+% in 2010 => > > Good growth but might be due to local government support Currently holding leadership position in 3 other firms, besides Blumont. 2 out of 3 of these firms are listed firms. ==> > > Say something about his credibility. Listed firms always avoid having dubious character on their board, as doing so would depress their share price. Age: 38 only===> > > Still a long way to go. If he decided to cheat now, he is destorying his own career prospect. His current  stake in Blumont only 1.3millions====> > > His previous  annual pay from SouthGlobi is more than 3millions=> > > > He need to resort to  con and destory his own career prospect just to save his stake in Blumont, which is equivalent to only half his annual salary? Worth it? But  cccx is right, if we consider  Blumont's  current financial reports only, that business is worthless at all.  Albeit I ruled out the possbility that Alex is a con artist,  there is still a chance that he might be wrong. We shall see. Since this is Liongold thread, I shall not  continue further.
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vincente Senior	04-Dec-2013 18:13        vincente About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "hope for the best"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Alamak! Those who think  the ship is ok  just load more.Make sure you really load to the max and not sing song  here and there to lure ppl in just bcos you are stucked. Those who think the ship is not looking good,do your own due diligence. No need to fight just bcos each  have a different view.
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ssw518 Supreme	04-Dec-2013 18:11        ssw518 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Jus curious, let's say IB won the case and those director and SSH are required to pay them what they own. Now,  my question comes in, hope someone can provide a view / opinion 1) What do the director / SSH have now - I think what the have is property and share, maybe less than 1 million cash 2) They can either pay some cash and shares or cash and property - mostly cash and shares cos harder to sell  property 3) if they repay by cash and shares, do you think BI will sell immediately to the market? - my guess is no they won't lastly who benefit most with the price going down? not only the trio, is as long as  that stock is currently own by the directors and SSH, self entertaining only like drama director....nothing to do so start dreaming Trade with care and open your eye big big if you buy on contra for any of the stock related to the Director / SSH. starlene      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:21) Posted: Just have lunch at Buffet Town with a group of analysts..better don't add for the trio..even for Lion..the directors may be bankrupted if not successful in their suits..interactive brokers have US79mil against them -a total of 10 directors/ssh..the trio may be suspended by MAS/SGX the lose all capital..the angmo at Bluemont may be a con job to lure retail investors in so all theses SSHs can sell..seems quiote true..watch from the sidelines better Wisely      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 12:49) Posted: Yah, better not touch the trio and its links...After reading today's BT my assumption is even if they win the lawsuit they wont survive MAS/SGX code of conduct. Apparently those directors  already breached their duties liao. This one gone le......btw i got to kudo's the CEO for asking the SGX to hurry up the investigation
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Rosesyrup Master	04-Dec-2013 17:48        Rosesyrup About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Get your own opinion, don't follow blindly."
x 0   x 2  Alert Admin	That Angmoh you speaks of, not your average ang moh. That Angmoh was once a: Hold an Econ degree => Not only an economic person but also an economist. Sure he got the tools and knowledge to do a proper valuation on any investment. But whether his valuation is correct or not is another issue. Head of Metal and  mining  in Citibank  for 10 years => No capability can climb up and hold on to that seat for 10 years? One of the highest paid CEO in Canada in 2010=> Reinforced his ability, not capable who want to hire with such salary? His previous firm, SouthGobi Resources  grew 60+% in 2010 => > > Good growth but might be due to local government support Currently holding leadership position in 3 other firms, besides Blumont. 2 out of 3 of these firms are listed firms. ==> > > Say something about his credibility. Listed firms always avoid having dubious character on their board, as doing so would depress their share price. Age: 38 only===> > > Still a long way to go. If he decided to cheat now, he is destorying his own career prospect. His current  stake in Blumont only 1.3millions====> > > His previous  annual pay from SouthGlobi is more than 3millions=> > > > He need to resort to  con and destory his own career prospect just to save his stake in Blumont, which is equivalent to only half his annual salary? Worth it? But  cccx is right, if we consider  Blumont's  current financial reports only, that business is worthless at all.  Albeit I ruled out the possbility that Alex is a con artist,  there is still a chance that he might be wrong. We shall see. Since this is Liongold thread, I shall not  continue further.     starlene      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:21) Posted: Just have lunch at Buffet Town with a group of analysts..better don't add for the trio..even for Lion..the directors may be bankrupted if not successful in their suits..interactive brokers have US79mil against them -a total of 10 directors/ssh..the trio may be suspended by MAS/SGX the lose all capital..the angmo at Bluemont may be a con job to lure retail investors in so all theses SSHs can sell..seems quiote true..watch from the sidelines better Wisely      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 12:49) Posted: Yah, better not touch the trio and its links...After reading today's BT my assumption is even if they win the lawsuit they wont survive MAS/SGX code of conduct. Apparently those directors  already breached their duties liao. This one gone le......btw i got to kudo's the CEO for asking the SGX to hurry up the investigation
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hongyuan Senior	04-Dec-2013 17:40        hongyuan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	the big boss will fight back,  they  don't support the price now otherwise  waste bullet,  only waiting for SGX
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terencee Master	04-Dec-2013 17:30        terencee About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "I don't entertain trolls."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Seriously funny. When things run up, no ppl eat with analysts. Now things all downwards, the analysts like very free like that. Can come out eat and share with friends.      cccx123      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:24) Posted: When analysts say sell, I'd rather buy.. ) starlene      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:21) Posted: Just have lunch at Buffet Town with a group of analysts..better don't add for the trio..even for Lion..the directors may be bankrupted if not successful in their suits..interactive brokers have US79mil against them -a total of 10 directors/ssh..the trio may be suspended by MAS/SGX the lose all capital..the angmo at Bluemont may be a con job to lure retail investors in so all theses SSHs can sell..seems quiote true..watch from the sidelines better
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cccx123 Elite	04-Dec-2013 17:24        cccx123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	When analysts say sell, I'd rather buy.. ) starlene      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:21) Posted: Just have lunch at Buffet Town with a group of analysts..better don't add for the trio..even for Lion..the directors may be bankrupted if not successful in their suits..interactive brokers have US79mil against them -a total of 10 directors/ssh..the trio may be suspended by MAS/SGX the lose all capital..the angmo at Bluemont may be a con job to lure retail investors in so all theses SSHs can sell..seems quiote true..watch from the sidelines better Wisely      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 12:49) Posted: Yah, better not touch the trio and its links...After reading today's BT my assumption is even if they win the lawsuit they wont survive MAS/SGX code of conduct. Apparently those directors  already breached their duties liao. This one gone le......btw i got to kudo's the CEO for asking the SGX to hurry up the investigation
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cccx123 Elite	04-Dec-2013 17:20        cccx123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	I will not vouch for blumont or asiasons because I did not study their financial statements in depth and at a glance they do seem to be rubbish. But I looked through LionGold's past performances and former analyst reports before the whole saga and they seem very fine to me. Valuations are certainly cheaper than other gold stocks, even when Lion was trading at $1.30.. The company's management board, other then Su Ling is largely untainted by lawsuits from brokerages or whatever. It is investor perception that this company is inextricably linked the asiasons and blumont that is causing this poor company to plunge together with the two. Recall how liongold at its own behest chose to write down or write off its fair value gains at the last report despite not being technically required to do so since the report was closed before the crash. This caused massive accounting losses. Compare this to blumont and asiasons which still had the cheek to report huge unrealizable accounting profits and you will see a stark difference in management standards. I don't want t keep going on. Every investor or trader should do their own due diligence. I have done mine and am confident that once this saga blows over, I will realise my gain on liongold. Will keep collecting as it goes down and up until it reaches the 20ct mark after which I will keep for long term investment purposes. wanglausern      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:05) Posted: Sure, just  becos you dun like to hear bearish opinions and so now you pay for being so obstinate. cccx123      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:00) Posted: Honestly, you are not helping with your statement
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Rosesyrup Master	04-Dec-2013 17:17        Rosesyrup About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Get your own opinion, don't follow blindly."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	True and valid, points noted. Would be great and better  if we can go further to quantify each bearish and bullish point. The net effect shall decide whether we buy or sell a particlar counters. Thanks. Simpsons      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:15) Posted: Err..how abt dropped in gold prices, ongoing lawsuits, poor market sentiments..lol
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Simpsons Master	04-Dec-2013 17:15        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Err..how abt dropped in gold prices, ongoing lawsuits, poor market sentiments..lol
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Rosesyrup Master	04-Dec-2013 17:13        Rosesyrup About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Get your own opinion, don't follow blindly."
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	erm....Wang, I really have nothing against you...cos I not vest in this counter and as of now have no plan to vest in this either. Fundamentalists like us don't mind hearing comments from any SIDES=> because ultimately value  of a counter depends on value of business only. No matter how bearish or bullish your comment  is, doesn't matter. What  we are looking for is reasons to support your bullish or bearish claims.  So far we have yet to  hear any good reason from you. wanglausern      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:05) Posted: Sure, just  becos you dun like to hear bearish opinions and so now you pay for being so obstinate. cccx123      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:00) Posted: Honestly, you are not helping with your statement
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interfact Senior	04-Dec-2013 17:13        interfact About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hard to say.The risk of suspension cannot be ruled out. Who wld want to risk their capital. ssw518      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 16:51) Posted: BB is still there esp. Blu, left pocket sell to right pocket and push down the price. I dun think there is anyone holding 5k lots at this point of time. Yesterday last 30 min 5k sell down, today again. interfact      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 16:36) Posted: How do you know BBs are in?Maybe they alrdy run road long time ago
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Ryuuenji Elite	04-Dec-2013 17:12        Ryuuenji About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So may i ask? what do you like to hear from SGX?? Probably, SGX will ask you to tune to FM95... Hear The Right Stuff.   Rosesyrup      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 15:43) Posted: I really don't understand why SGX is not answering Nic's queries. Trio crisis already hit market volume hard.....SGX's revenue is expected to take a hard  blow if this carries on. Up till now, all news of " crisis" , lawsuit, share rigging etc are from private sources. SGX never confirm or deny anything. ssw518      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 14:44) Posted: Of cause Nicholas won't be involve, he is only one pushing SGX on the investigation. I wanted to add with cpf but too bad, this counter cannot lo...still holding to my 30 cents lot
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Rosesyrup Master	04-Dec-2013 17:06        Rosesyrup About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Get your own opinion, don't follow blindly."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree with cccx, You  need  some reason to support your  claims. cccx123      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:00) Posted: Honestly, you are not helping with your statements wanglausern      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 16:59) Posted: One word sell and move on. Many here regret for not heeding my caution earlier.
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wanglausern Senior	04-Dec-2013 17:05        wanglausern About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sure, just  becos you dun like to hear bearish opinions and so now you pay for being so obstinate. cccx123      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 17:00) Posted: Honestly, you are not helping with your statements wanglausern      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 16:59) Posted: One word sell and move on. Many here regret for not heeding my caution earlier.
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cccx123 Elite	04-Dec-2013 17:00        cccx123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Honestly, you are not helping with your statements wanglausern      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 16:59) Posted: One word sell and move on. Many here regret for not heeding my caution earlier.   Rosesyrup      ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 15:43) Posted: I really don't understand why SGX is not answering Nic's queries. Trio crisis already hit market volume hard.....SGX's revenue is expected to take a hard  blow if this carries on. Up till now, all news of " crisis" , lawsuit, share rigging etc are from private sources. SGX never confirm or deny anything
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