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oldcoconut Senior	08-Nov-2017 14:38        oldcoconut About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Do u think alliance will be succssful?
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spore1 Supreme	08-Nov-2017 14:37        spore1 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyone buying ? Or waiting for the result to be released ?
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investshare Supreme	08-Nov-2017 11:19        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Grab driver paying income tax. Passenger happy, less complaints against taxi to LTA. Everyone happy. seba240698      ( Date: 08-Nov-2017 09:42) Posted: Maybe not currently because both Uber and Grab are not making profits so no corporate tax paid to govt yet.
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seba240698 Senior	08-Nov-2017 09:42        seba240698 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Maybe not currently because both Uber and Grab are not making profits so no corporate tax paid to govt yet.
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Observers Elite	08-Nov-2017 08:51        Observers About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I believe government banned private taxi in the past because they couldn' t regulate them efficiently (i.e. difficulty collecting income tax), far easiler if there was just one entity incharge. Nowadays PHVs are regulated by ride hailing providers via technology, I think government more than happy with the added tax revenue. seba240698      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 18:19) Posted: Thanks you sir for the info. Allowing PHVs for street hail is something I definitely cannot swallow, it goes back to the Ba Ong Chia 4 decades ago...... Starship      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 15:01) Posted: According to news and the latest Channel News Asia program, presently Alipay in SG is only for China tourists, FTs, PRs in SG. They have also said they are now considering launching it in SG for Singaporeans as well.
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allent Master	08-Nov-2017 07:29        allent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-07/waymo-driverless-cars-are-now-driverless-in-ground-breaking-test
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KiLrOy Elite	06-Nov-2017 21:31        KiLrOy About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "I buy only what I can see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not PayAhLee meh? LoL~ MichaelSchenker      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 14:55) Posted: In Singapore, we have AhLeePay....lol! Starship      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 14:48) Posted: Nowadays, the key words in the news are: Alibaba, Alipay, Ant Financial, Grab: During Grab' s 5th anniversary celebration on 6 June, CEO and co-founder Anthony Tan announced a new street-hailing system in Jakarta, Indonesia.  Instead of pre-booking a vehicle, passengers can hail a GrabBike from the road first, then make a booking with the driver. Grab is also in talks to bring street-hailing to Singapore, but there is no timeline yet. The renewed partnership between Grab and Jack Ma will allow him to extend Alipay' s reach across the markets where Grab has a presence. This ties in with his plans to build a global reach for Alipay. In June 2016, Ant Financial teamed up with Grab to offer Singapore and Thailand the Alipay platform. http://www.asiaone.com/business/if-jack-ma-joins-upcoming-2b-grab-fundraising-how-grab-might-be-affected
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oldcoconut Senior	06-Nov-2017 21:19        oldcoconut About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Any views? oldcoconut      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 16:13) Posted: Bros. no reply gr anyone of u regarding my earlier post. Do u think the alliance will be successful? comfort release its 3rd quarter results soon on 10 Nov.
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seba240698 Senior	06-Nov-2017 18:19        seba240698 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks you sir for the info. Allowing PHVs for street hail is something I definitely cannot swallow, it goes back to the Ba Ong Chia 4 decades ago...... Starship      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 15:01) Posted: According to news and the latest Channel News Asia program, presently Alipay in SG is only for China tourists, FTs, PRs in SG. They have also said they are now considering launching it in SG for Singaporeans as well.
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oldcoconut Senior	06-Nov-2017 16:13        oldcoconut About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bros. no reply gr anyone of u regarding my earlier post. Do u think the alliance will be successful? comfort release its 3rd quarter results soon on 10 Nov.
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Starship Supreme	06-Nov-2017 15:01        Starship About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	According to news and the latest Channel News Asia program, presently Alipay in SG is only for China tourists, FTs, PRs in SG. They have also said they are now considering launching it in SG for Singaporeans as well.
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seba240698 Senior	06-Nov-2017 15:01        seba240698 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Allow PHV for street hall, did I hear you correctly? Then all these 4 years of tightening PHVs by the govt for what?
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MichaelSchenker Master	06-Nov-2017 14:55        MichaelSchenker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	In Singapore, we have AhLeePay....lol! Starship      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 14:48) Posted: Nowadays, the key words in the news are: Alibaba, Alipay, Ant Financial, Grab: During Grab' s 5th anniversary celebration on 6 June, CEO and co-founder Anthony Tan announced a new street-hailing system in Jakarta, Indonesia.  Instead of pre-booking a vehicle, passengers can hail a GrabBike from the road first, then make a booking with the driver. Grab is also in talks to bring street-hailing to Singapore, but there is no timeline yet. The renewed partnership between Grab and Jack Ma will allow him to extend Alipay' s reach across the markets where Grab has a presence. This ties in with his plans to build a global reach for Alipay. In June 2016, Ant Financial teamed up with Grab to offer Singapore and Thailand the Alipay platform. http://www.asiaone.com/business/if-jack-ma-joins-upcoming-2b-grab-fundraising-how-grab-might-be-affected
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Starship Supreme	06-Nov-2017 14:48        Starship About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Nowadays, the key words in the news are: Alibaba, Alipay, Ant Financial, Grab: During Grab' s 5th anniversary celebration on 6 June, CEO and co-founder Anthony Tan announced a new street-hailing system in Jakarta, Indonesia.  Instead of pre-booking a vehicle, passengers can hail a GrabBike from the road first, then make a booking with the driver. Grab is also in talks to bring street-hailing to Singapore, but there is no timeline yet. The renewed partnership between Grab and Jack Ma will allow him to extend Alipay' s reach across the markets where Grab has a presence. This ties in with his plans to build a global reach for Alipay. In June 2016, Ant Financial teamed up with Grab to offer Singapore and Thailand the Alipay platform. http://www.asiaone.com/business/if-jack-ma-joins-upcoming-2b-grab-fundraising-how-grab-might-be-affected
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MichaelSchenker Master	06-Nov-2017 12:57        MichaelSchenker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Private arrangement is not cheating. Some taxis already doing that. Who&rsquo s to say PHV can only carry passengers who booked thru&rsquo the app? What about your own family members or friends or even someone you just knew whom you wanted to give a lift? Or neighbours or friends or your friends. Even if there is such a stoopid rule, it&rsquo s still very hard to prove. A lot of resources and time needed just for one simple case. And the penalty is ultimately to sack a PHV hirer who is also deemed as a paying customer.   seba240698      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 12:10) Posted: I heard some PHVs already " beating around" the Grab/Uber system. Driver A ties up with passengers B, C and D etc, fetch them from home to office and office to home at fixed time and location every day. Totally avoided paying incentives to Grab/Uber and give passengers maybe 50cents or $1 discount.  Both drivers and passengers happy.... The Grab/Uber system is fundamentally flawed and suspectible to cheating.....I feel. Metered taxi system is difficult to cheat. The meters are checked by VICOM every 6 months, and even taxi drivers bypass the booking taxi comapnies only lose $0.50 per booking. But taxi drivers will not do that becasue booking itself cost $3.70, extra $3 for them. There is a reason why taximeter system is still running after 4 decades.
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edwinjup Supreme	06-Nov-2017 12:20        edwinjup About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Will kanna suspend within a week..unless using grabhitch..... seba240698      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 12:10) Posted: I heard some PHVs already " beating around" the Grab/Uber system. Driver A ties up with passengers B, C and D etc, fetch them from home to office and office to home at fixed time and location every day. Totally avoided paying incentives to Grab/Uber and give passengers maybe 50cents or $1 discount.  Both drivers and passengers happy.... The Grab/Uber system is fundamentally flawed and suspectible to cheating.....I feel. Metered taxi system is difficult to cheat. The meters are checked by VICOM every 6 months, and even taxi drivers bypass the booking taxi comapnies only lose $0.50 per booking. But taxi drivers will not do that becasue booking itself cost $3.70, extra $3 for them. There is a reason why taximeter system is still running after 4 decades.
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seba240698 Senior	06-Nov-2017 12:10        seba240698 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I heard some PHVs already " beating around" the Grab/Uber system. Driver A ties up with passengers B, C and D etc, fetch them from home to office and office to home at fixed time and location every day. Totally avoided paying incentives to Grab/Uber and give passengers maybe 50cents or $1 discount.  Both drivers and passengers happy.... The Grab/Uber system is fundamentally flawed and suspectible to cheating.....I feel. Metered taxi system is difficult to cheat. The meters are checked by VICOM every 6 months, and even taxi drivers bypass the booking taxi comapnies only lose $0.50 per booking. But taxi drivers will not do that becasue booking itself cost $3.70, extra $3 for them. There is a reason why taximeter system is still running after 4 decades.
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seba240698 Senior	06-Nov-2017 10:39        seba240698 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not all PHVs drivers can be taxi drivers, add the requirements are more stringent. Must be above 30 years old, must be Singaporean. Taxi drivers can drive PHVs but not the other way round... MichaelSchenker      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 09:33) Posted: Nowadays parking fees not cheap. Shopping centres may not open before 10am too. In fact I was thinking, those who seriously want to drive to make a living should have opted to be a taxi driver. Currently because of the hype and promotions/special packages for PHV Drivers. When the gimmicks run out, reality comes true, many would switch to full-fledge taxi or leave the industry. Already I heard that there are many PHV in the 2nd hand market, indicating supply exceeding demand. So, will Comfort Delgro make a comeback? seba240698      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 09:21) Posted: I think they park at some carparks or shopping malls and take a break, some go home and rest till peak hours then " chiong" ...... Once PHVs drivers get used to the trade, their " pattern" will come out. Cherry-picking customers, disappearing act before peak hours, switch off apps when not interested to drive etc, will sonner or later not just the " trade marks" of taxi uncles.
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seba240698 Senior	06-Nov-2017 10:35        seba240698 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Govt will change the rule, but against PHVs, I've already mentioned, which rule after 2013 is s supporting PHVs? You may wish to scroll down my thread. Just a repeat the rules. 1) decal pasting, 2) PDVL requirements, 3) road tax rebate for taxis, 4) the biggest hammer, auto filing of income tax, PHVs drivers CANNOT deduct expenses like parking ERP petrol depreciation, for tax relief. Taxi collect mainly cash, can under declare income, 5) zero growth of COE, CDG now got thousands of un hired taxis, this can be read as advantage as COE will surge, PHVs will be expensive.
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MichaelSchenker Master	06-Nov-2017 10:22        MichaelSchenker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I have read the debate from both sides. And you are right only if we assume the government bend the rules. Unless they allow Grab/Uber to take on street hire or queue at Taxi-Stands, PHV will never replace full-fledge taxis. Grab/Uber Drivers are still able to make a living thanks to the huge subsidies and sponsors deal. We also have to assume they will forever be there. Looking at a simplistic view, the fundamentals of business is, to consider the high costs of car ownership and relatively cheap taxi fares, it can be deduced that the margin for PHV is Low, or if it ever breaks even. What is cost of owning and maintaining a PHV in Singapore? Assuming Grab and Uber has more than 80% of it&rsquo s fleet on the roads, otherwise, who do you think will bear the costs/depreciation? BetterStill      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 09:51) Posted: I guess comfort management level think the same way as you . That's why the situation looks so passive. They always think that Grab won't be able to make it but nv think how they can make themselves better during the battle. I think Grab not stupid so do their investigators. Now they are at phase 1 or phase 2 ...more to come. Comfort really got to watch out leh... firstly Grab biz , now Grab driver, at the end might grab the whole industry.... MichaelSchenker      ( Date: 06-Nov-2017 09:33) Posted: Nowadays parking fees not cheap. Shopping centres may not open before 10am too. In fact I was thinking, those who seriously want to drive to make a living should have opted to be a taxi driver. Currently because of the hype and promotions/special packages for PHV Drivers. When the gimmicks run out, reality comes true, many would switch to full-fledge taxi or leave the industry. Already I heard that there are many PHV in the 2nd hand market, indicating supply exceeding demand. So, will Comfort Delgro make a comeback
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