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hotelgrand Master	14-Dec-2015 14:41        hotelgrand About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Heard judicial mgt call off?
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ecekca Elite	02-Dec-2015 21:11        ecekca About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	thanks for that.. Qanghoo      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 18:46) Posted: The parent coy Pacific Andes International Holdings is listed in HK.  PARD n CFG are listed in spore.  I believe CFG are a main revenue contributor to the parent.  I believe its major assets are the Peruvian anchovy coy Copeinca n a few smaller Peruvian anchovy players n the fishing licences it holds in Peru.  Seems that the anchovy catch is in the main processed into fishmeal,  for agri-feed, n largely exported to the PRC.  It is also engaged in mackerel fishing n processing in Africa, if I recall correctly.  I think there' d been a number of attempts at transformational changes over the last few yrs, but I' ve not really kept  up in detail  since I' m no longer vested (thankfully).  ecekca      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 17:03) Posted: hey bro, then what country coy? HK?
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stockpicker Master	02-Dec-2015 21:01        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I said about 1.5 years ago that CF was heavily in debt and el-nino will hit them badly.  also,  CF should have not pay the bond holders but redeem the Bank loan.     You pay the banks,  you can get another loan.  You pay the bond holder,  they will just say thank you.  May be CF was compelled to pay the bond holders under the Copeinca agreement   anyway,  it will be much better to deal with the bond holders than the banks..  CF made the wrong moves?
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Lepin888 Veteran	01-Dec-2015 21:53        Lepin888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Company under liquidation....bankrupt or kaput...owing banks and bondholders hundreds of millions.... Where has all that money gone...?Swam away with the fishes?
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beginners Veteran	30-Nov-2015 22:00        beginners About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The NGs thought buying over Copeinca can shake legs and drink cappuccino. Too bad . stockpicker      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 23:28) Posted: You are correct.  Plus Mr Ng, 55, the owner of the Pacific Andes,  PARD and CFG is a Malaysian educated in Singapore and the US.  He took over from his father' s seafood trading business some 30 years ago.  Also Copeinca is the second largest fishing company in Peru which has about 10% quota in peru. The group of company was dragged down first by the Russian Pollock when there was a political trouble 3 years ago,  then they found and bought over Copeinca which was losing money about 2 years ago. This became their second trouble.  Think hard to come out of this mess until the El-nino is over.  That is the only hope. Qanghoo      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 18:46) Posted: The parent coy Pacific Andes International Holdings is listed in HK.  PARD n CFG are listed in spore.  I believe CFG are a main revenue contributor to the parent.  I believe its major assets are the Peruvian anchovy coy Copeinca n a few smaller Peruvian anchovy players n the fishing licences it holds in Peru.  Seems that the anchovy catch is in the main processed into fishmeal,  for agri-feed, n largely exported to the PRC.  It is also engaged in mackerel fishing n processing in Africa, if I recall correctly.  I think there' d been a number of attempts at transformational changes over the last few yrs, but I' ve not really kept  up in detail  since I' m no longer vested (thankfully).
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Bigmama Elite	30-Nov-2015 19:57        Bigmama About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My condolence to the holders
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Observers Elite	30-Nov-2015 16:18        Observers About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hard to say. Maybe now that stock is suspended indefinitely, the counter party lending out the share purposely recall all the share on loan knowing there is no way for shortist to buy back. Demostation      ( Date: 30-Nov-2015 11:45) Posted: Shorter will be " not so much of a problem."   They could advertise to buy cheap shares from the public (mutual and direct transfers fromone CDP to another done legally) and then close positions and make some money... huafaster      ( Date: 30-Nov-2015 11:42) Posted: Short position also die lah!
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Demostation Supreme	30-Nov-2015 11:45        Demostation About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Shorter will be " not so much of a problem."   They could advertise to buy cheap shares from the public (mutual and direct transfers fromone CDP to another done legally) and then close positions and make some money... huafaster      ( Date: 30-Nov-2015 11:42) Posted: Short position also die lah! GuavaXF30      ( Date: 30-Nov-2015 11:38) Posted: Request made due to appointment of provisionla liquidators. Meaning, gone case.
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huafaster Veteran	30-Nov-2015 11:42        huafaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Short position also die lah! GuavaXF30      ( Date: 30-Nov-2015 11:38) Posted: Request made due to appointment of provisionla liquidators. Meaning, gone case. paranomic123      ( Date: 30-Nov-2015 08:26) Posted: 30-11-2015 07:36:33 BRIEF-China Fishery Group requests for suspension
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GuavaXF30 Elite	30-Nov-2015 11:38        GuavaXF30 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Request made due to appointment of provisionla liquidators. Meaning, gone case. paranomic123      ( Date: 30-Nov-2015 08:26) Posted: 30-11-2015 07:36:33 BRIEF-China Fishery Group requests for suspension
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paranomic123 Veteran	30-Nov-2015 08:26        paranomic123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	30-11-2015 07:36:33 BRIEF-China Fishery Group requests for suspension
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ysh2006 Supreme	30-Nov-2015 07:59        ysh2006 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	In the market   are there any unit fund that hold those companies ?...
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stockpicker Master	29-Nov-2015 23:28        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are correct.  Plus Mr Ng, 55, the owner of the Pacific Andes,  PARD and CFG is a Malaysian educated in Singapore and the US.  He took over from his father' s seafood trading business some 30 years ago.  Also Copeinca is the second largest fishing company in Peru which has about 10% quota in peru. The group of company was dragged down first by the Russian Pollock when there was a political trouble 3 years ago,  then they found and bought over Copeinca which was losing money about 2 years ago. This became their second trouble.  Think hard to come out of this mess until the El-nino is over.  That is the only hope. Qanghoo      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 18:46) Posted: The parent coy Pacific Andes International Holdings is listed in HK.  PARD n CFG are listed in spore.  I believe CFG are a main revenue contributor to the parent.  I believe its major assets are the Peruvian anchovy coy Copeinca n a few smaller Peruvian anchovy players n the fishing licences it holds in Peru.  Seems that the anchovy catch is in the main processed into fishmeal,  for agri-feed, n largely exported to the PRC.  It is also engaged in mackerel fishing n processing in Africa, if I recall correctly.  I think there' d been a number of attempts at transformational changes over the last few yrs, but I' ve not really kept  up in detail  since I' m no longer vested (thankfully).  ecekca      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 17:03) Posted: hey bro, then what country coy? HK?
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Qanghoo Supreme	29-Nov-2015 18:46        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The parent coy Pacific Andes International Holdings is listed in HK.  PARD n CFG are listed in spore.  I believe CFG are a main revenue contributor to the parent.  I believe its major assets are the Peruvian anchovy coy Copeinca n a few smaller Peruvian anchovy players n the fishing licences it holds in Peru.  Seems that the anchovy catch is in the main processed into fishmeal,  for agri-feed, n largely exported to the PRC.  It is also engaged in mackerel fishing n processing in Africa, if I recall correctly.  I think there' d been a number of attempts at transformational changes over the last few yrs, but I' ve not really kept  up in detail  since I' m no longer vested (thankfully).  ecekca      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 17:03) Posted: hey bro, then what country coy? HK? huafaster      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 15:30) Posted: Hi brother, it is not a china coy.
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Qanghoo Supreme	29-Nov-2015 18:31        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Cos a lot of them were already probably fly-by-night type, even before being listed here.  Don' t know how they hookwind the agent banks into getting listed here - just baffling to me.  On the other hand, CFG is not.  While highly geared, it is still a valuable coy, probably wating to be courted.  If not for the alleged inpropriety of the seemingly avaricious majority owners, n El Nino, the coy wld probably still not be in trouble.  ecekca      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 17:04) Posted: but most stocks suspended, seldom get save... Qanghoo      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 16:41) Posted: Hmmmmmmm!!! Maybe shd not rule out China Investment Corp being a possible white knight.  After all, CFG are probably the biggest fishmeal producer in the world n a lot of the fishmeal is exported to China.  If we look at past strategic overseas acquisitions by the PRC, they seemed to have been done with the intention of gaining a strategic foothold on resources critical to themselves.  If it turns out that way, my guess is that they' ll probably pay a decent px, possibly substantially higher than CFG' s last traded px.
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ecekca Elite	29-Nov-2015 17:04        ecekca About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	but most stocks suspended, seldom get save... Qanghoo      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 16:41) Posted: Hmmmmmmm!!! Maybe shd not rule out China Investment Corp being a possible white knight.  After all, CFG are probably the biggest fishmeal producer in the world n a lot of the fishmeal is exported to China.  If we look at past strategic overseas acquisitions by the PRC, they seemed to have been done with the intention of gaining a strategic foothold on resources critical to themselves.  If it turns out that way, my guess is that they' ll probably pay a decent px, possibly substantially higher than CFG' s last traded px. pattanispirit      ( Date: 28-Nov-2015 15:10) Posted: only Temasek or  China Investment Corp can buy them out now. think China would be keen to acquire a coy who control majority supply of fish, fish meals, etc.
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ecekca Elite	29-Nov-2015 17:03        ecekca About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	hey bro, then what country coy? HK? huafaster      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 15:30) Posted: Hi brother, it is not a china coy. ecekca      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 14:24) Posted: Nobody.. advice is not to own china stocks. rather own those chinese stocks listed in hongkong...
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Qanghoo Supreme	29-Nov-2015 16:41        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hmmmmmmm!!! Maybe shd not rule out China Investment Corp being a possible white knight.  After all, CFG are probably the biggest fishmeal producer in the world n a lot of the fishmeal is exported to China.  If we look at past strategic overseas acquisitions by the PRC, they seemed to have been done with the intention of gaining a strategic foothold on resources critical to themselves.  If it turns out that way, my guess is that they' ll probably pay a decent px, possibly substantially higher than CFG' s last traded px. pattanispirit      ( Date: 28-Nov-2015 15:10) Posted: only Temasek or  China Investment Corp can buy them out now. think China would be keen to acquire a coy who control majority supply of fish, fish meals, etc.
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huafaster Veteran	29-Nov-2015 15:30        huafaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi brother, it is not a china coy. ecekca      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 14:24) Posted: Nobody.. advice is not to own china stocks. rather own those chinese stocks listed in hongkong... huafaster      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 08:59) Posted: Who can come out to save small share holders?
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ecekca Elite	29-Nov-2015 14:26        ecekca About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	don' t think they are keen. Previously there is a company China Milk..also liquidated in 2013/2014. i think..   pattanispirit      ( Date: 28-Nov-2015 15:10) Posted: only Temasek or  China Investment Corp can buy them out now. think China would be keen to acquire a coy who control majority supply of fish, fish meals, etc.
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