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Just4win Supreme	16-May-2016 12:09        Just4win About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, agreed.   A comfortable thought to those who are holding shares for quite some time. Hence, no rush to dispose their on hand shares now zandlery      ( Date: 16-May-2016 12:06) Posted: at this rate....at least we know that the company is profitable for the next few years compare to most company which record losses......in this bad market.....that's a win.......just my own prospective
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zandlery Supreme	16-May-2016 12:06        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	at this rate....at least we know that the company is profitable for the next few years compare to most company which record losses......in this bad market.....that's a win.......just my own prospective
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RedEye1811 Master	16-May-2016 12:02        RedEye1811 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree...Catch 22...difficult to leave them doing nothing, but tough to get little return...but as you say hopefully they can continue to reduce admin and operating costs...Now they have gone through their refinancing, got rid of the notes payable (or largest notes payable amount with remainder in November (i think)) they seem to be in a position to reduce finance costs quite a bit...so perhaps with finance costs down, contributions from these new contracts and some more operating and admin expenditure reductions then net income can strengthen....compared to many OSVs this counter seems to at least be in a stronger position than most...but going to be long time before share price seems to rise..even though oil price up share price of OSV firms gone backwards so rather than oil price driving price down seems now more to do with oversupply of vessels.. darocupcake      ( Date: 16-May-2016 11:53) Posted: But i think its better than letting the osv lyig ard doing nothing. Slight profit better than none at least can be use to offset some maintenance or admin cost RedEye1811      ( Date: 16-May-2016 11:47) Posted: Thxs for a great article (as per your URL)...I sadly have the same feeling on maths...Sounds great (the contract) but when break it down really quite cheap...there Q1/2016 results indicate net profit margin of about 11%...so if apply this then contract only going to bring in $210,000,000*0.11 = 23,100,000 profit which is USD3.3 to USD3.4 per year. So not really going to add much to be bottom line per year...with all the competitors flooding the region they cannot expect to up rates so going to be a long slow drag...
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darocupcake Master	16-May-2016 11:53        darocupcake About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	But i think its better than letting the osv lyig ard doing nothing. Slight profit better than none at least can be use to offset some maintenance or admin cost RedEye1811      ( Date: 16-May-2016 11:47) Posted: Thxs for a great article (as per your URL)...I sadly have the same feeling on maths...Sounds great (the contract) but when break it down really quite cheap...there Q1/2016 results indicate net profit margin of about 11%...so if apply this then contract only going to bring in $210,000,000*0.11 = 23,100,000 profit which is USD3.3 to USD3.4 per year. So not really going to add much to be bottom line per year...with all the competitors flooding the region they cannot expect to up rates so going to be a long slow drag...  nqing87      ( Date: 16-May-2016 09:31) Posted: Just for reading pleasure on the situation in middle east.. i think the contract award  today from vallianz may be kind of like near breakeven for them.. USD 210mil for 13 vessels for 7 yrs = 210,000,000/13/7 = 2.3mil per year, = ~USD 6.3K per day.. this is not a very high rate i think.. we dun have info on what kind of OSV they are chartering, hopefully they are those smaller ones with lower operating cost so that they can make more money http://www.osjonline.com/news/view,rates-dive-worries-middle-east-osv-operators_41796.htm
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RedEye1811 Master	16-May-2016 11:47        RedEye1811 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thxs for a great article (as per your URL)...I sadly have the same feeling on maths...Sounds great (the contract) but when break it down really quite cheap...there Q1/2016 results indicate net profit margin of about 11%...so if apply this then contract only going to bring in $210,000,000*0.11 = 23,100,000 profit which is USD3.3 to USD3.4 per year. So not really going to add much to be bottom line per year...with all the competitors flooding the region they cannot expect to up rates so going to be a long slow drag...  nqing87      ( Date: 16-May-2016 09:31) Posted: Just for reading pleasure on the situation in middle east.. i think the contract award  today from vallianz may be kind of like near breakeven for them.. USD 210mil for 13 vessels for 7 yrs = 210,000,000/13/7 = 2.3mil per year, = ~USD 6.3K per day.. this is not a very high rate i think.. we dun have info on what kind of OSV they are chartering, hopefully they are those smaller ones with lower operating cost so that they can make more money http://www.osjonline.com/news/view,rates-dive-worries-middle-east-osv-operators_41796.htm   newbie24      ( Date: 16-May-2016 09:22) Posted: Wonder why isn't this moving. Still believe in the business model and bosses though. Glad to have hoot a little in the beginning haha
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granto Master	16-May-2016 10:28        granto About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Vallianz scores $210m worth of charter contracts:  http://splash247.com/vallianz-scores-210m-worth-of-charter-contracts/
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nqing87 Supreme	16-May-2016 09:31        nqing87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just for reading pleasure on the situation in middle east.. i think the contract award  today from vallianz may be kind of like near breakeven for them.. USD 210mil for 13 vessels for 7 yrs = 210,000,000/13/7 = 2.3mil per year, = ~USD 6.3K per day.. this is not a very high rate i think.. we dun have info on what kind of OSV they are chartering, hopefully they are those smaller ones with lower operating cost so that they can make more money http://www.osjonline.com/news/view,rates-dive-worries-middle-east-osv-operators_41796.htm   newbie24      ( Date: 16-May-2016 09:22) Posted: Wonder why isn't this moving. Still believe in the business model and bosses though. Glad to have hoot a little in the beginning haha
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moron101 Supreme	16-May-2016 09:27        moron101 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Buy over target.. newbie24      ( Date: 16-May-2016 09:22) Posted: Wonder why isn't this moving. Still believe in the business model and bosses though. Glad to have hoot a little in the beginning haha
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newbie24 Veteran	16-May-2016 09:22        newbie24 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wonder why isn't this moving. Still believe in the business model and bosses though. Glad to have hoot a little in the beginning haha
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darocupcake Master	16-May-2016 07:49        darocupcake About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This company kept getting contract. Wonder in few years time will it becime $1 stock, just my dream lolx
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zandlery Supreme	12-May-2016 16:55        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	err.......spam? hmm...........
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chewantans Member	12-May-2016 16:51        chewantans About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	In short term....no one can anticipate what going to happen...just like the fire..the strike....the terrorist attack.......ppl who exchange intra-day will get hurt less demanding. . . . . . .  Some more like a Profitable and There have Some movement   . . .  ACCORDIA GOLF   DOWN FOR .62 ARCOMEC.SG   UP FOR .50 ADVENTUS.SG LONG FOR .014 AF GLOBAL.SG LONG FOR .23 AA.SG LONG FOR .10 more live Stocks Signals With us @EquityProfit .com
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zandlery Supreme	12-May-2016 16:42        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	just poor sentiment on this market......most of the O&G counter in red.........I'm vested....take some paper lose but still think it fudamentals will improve over the years......long if can hold with strong heart....haha
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newbieliu Elite	12-May-2016 16:36        newbieliu About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyone still vested here? any comment for its share price? the revenue and profit has looked promising but no one talks about it? zandlery      ( Date: 10-May-2016 13:44) Posted: In short term....no one can predict what going to happen...just like the fire..the strike....the terrorist attack.......ppl who trade intra-day will get hurt easier.
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zandlery Supreme	10-May-2016 13:44        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	In short term....no one can predict what going to happen...just like the fire..the strike....the terrorist attack.......ppl who trade intra-day will get hurt easier.
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sheerluck Supreme	10-May-2016 12:52        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Who got trapped at 4.4cts.  Coy give good results only give people chance to offload.  Even so, only push to 4.4cts.  So cheapo. No one long O& G counter now.  Trend is down.  Only chance are fools push up hoping for turnaround.  It will but not tmr, next week or next year.  Wait 5-7 years later if lucky.  If unlucky, never come. Saudi already know oil price will not go above $50-$60.  So now list Aramco best.  List later have to take lower price.   sheerluck      ( Date: 09-May-2016 11:12) Posted: More than 40 million bought up at 4.4cts still cannot break said something.  Beware.
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zandlery Supreme	10-May-2016 12:09        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	jus like someone comment before, at current market....no one will bet big on O&G counter....anyone vested now need to hold for long term until sentiment of the whole undustry improve
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Just4win Supreme	10-May-2016 09:35        Just4win About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good news or bad news, the price just drops.   just that bad news drop much more. Crazy market. Really   need a big force to reverse the whole sgp market.   zandlery      ( Date: 09-May-2016 19:20) Posted: just like what I expected....profit have been holding well as the company have already secured charter order for the next few year and will maintain if no cancellation of order. plus the gearing down with positive cash flow. Out of many O & G counter....this is one of the few which look promising in long term.....at least to me.....hope it getting better with more recognition from the middle east side
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zandlery Supreme	09-May-2016 19:20        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	just like what I expected....profit have been holding well as the company have already secured charter order for the next few year and will maintain if no cancellation of order. plus the gearing down with positive cash flow. Out of many O & G counter....this is one of the few which look promising in long term.....at least to me.....hope it getting better with more recognition from the middle east side
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mwmwmw Member	09-May-2016 15:45        mwmwmw About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hopefully can run soon... :) newbie24      ( Date: 09-May-2016 15:38) Posted: Accumulation at 44 a bit abnormal leh.. Sell down by 10s buy up by 100/1000s...
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