Back

Latest Forum Topics / YZJ Shipbldg SGD    Last:3.54    +0.08

Post Reply

Cruising with the ship ..Yangzijiang Post Reply Rate topic
matrixxx Senior	03-Jun-2014 01:57        matrixxx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Nothing is crazy. Stock goes up, stock comes down, stock go sideway. All is normal. The not normal is there is always 2 side of a coin. Meaning to say:   a. To those shortsellers or want to buy cheaper: yes, very likely will drop to 40 cents b. To those bullish longers or holding shares at high price: yes, very likely this share will go up to $2 despite bad news.   So, see which side you are on and if u like point a, u agree with that. And if you like point b, u can agree with point b. It' s so simple. This is so good as both statement can satisfy both shortists or buyers. Just tell them what they like or love to hear, and they will be very happy to trade. But in fact deep down their souls, they know what they experiencing  as either they are making real $$ or losing it by choosing buy or sell.       Think the key point here is mainly on " the lost of confidence" , which is the most important since this is one of the main reason why people buy their shares  other than buying because of good earnings profitability. Too big to fail doesn' t apply to this counter anymore, adding that she is a super duper S-chip. Let' s hopefully not they will dig out more shading deals out of it or special audit like eratat to see if the " real" cash is there in the bank. Finally, trade with care. there is no smoke without fire. For the case of SMRT, good news will trigger her to go up, up and up. For the case of YZJ, if more bad news will trigger her to go down, down and down. Just as Jesse Livemore always said, Buy rising stocks, sell falling stocks, and that is really the way to trade. moneycow      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 01:05) Posted: The way it falls is crazy. scarry. Many times its not the actual problem , its the people. The panicky lots. One sell lower than others scared if they   don' t sell it will become lower. The panickig syndrome makes them cannot think straight.   BUT fact is and its a sad fact. When people like that starts selling lower, it falls crazy low. When you look at it, its unbelivable. BUT its understandable that when one holding the shares heard really bad news,   and they see one selling lower than others , they panic they also sell at the next lowest. SO it become a chain reaction. When you look at the price, it fell more than 20 steps.   more than 10 cents - every steps down is $0.005   That was what happen. People ho are more relax ait to scoop at recent reord low. A price like a miracle buy. when you look at the time just before the sell down in the later morning it was still strong at 1.135 then the wave.............negative waves of selling..........like earth quake suddenly happen.   For YZJ it was not the first time the scarry sudden fall. Very unpredictable. At one time when it was 1.15, suddenly plunge to   1.05   for no reason............then there was no bad news, price went back up fast.but the thing is ,   sudden drastic fall happens epecially to YZJ. Recently its just sudden fall................hardly have time where it suddenly chiong high high............   BUT how the news would further effect the stock price. No one really knows, Some ppl will try to cause panic, making use of the situation to spread news that scare people into thinking negative so they sell. When they do sell lower one after another, this vouchers will scope.......... Its a game of fear - some fear fgactor involves. When one have that fear experience , its very real, hand shake, head shake.........cannot even type the correct figure to sell. When the correct figures are eventually typed, the asking goes down further. It was like that. Hopefully things can get better. Just hope. Stocky901      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 21:33) Posted: Someone said YZJ will go down to 40c.. when hah? This forum has a lot of brainless peoples
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
moneycow Elite	03-Jun-2014 01:05        moneycow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The way it falls is crazy. scarry. Many times its not the actual problem , its the people. The panicky lots. One sell lower than others scared if they   don' t sell it will become lower. The panickig syndrome makes them cannot think straight.   BUT fact is and its a sad fact. When people like that starts selling lower, it falls crazy low. When you look at it, its unbelivable. BUT its understandable that when one holding the shares heard really bad news,   and they see one selling lower than others , they panic they also sell at the next lowest. SO it become a chain reaction. When you look at the price, it fell more than 20 steps.   more than 10 cents - every steps down is $0.005   That was what happen. People ho are more relax ait to scoop at recent reord low. A price like a miracle buy. when you look at the time just before the sell down in the later morning it was still strong at 1.135 then the wave.............negative waves of selling..........like earth quake suddenly happen.   For YZJ it was not the first time the scarry sudden fall. Very unpredictable. At one time when it was 1.15, suddenly plunge to   1.05   for no reason............then there was no bad news, price went back up fast.but the thing is ,   sudden drastic fall happens epecially to YZJ. Recently its just sudden fall................hardly have time where it suddenly chiong high high............   BUT how the news would further effect the stock price. No one really knows, Some ppl will try to cause panic, making use of the situation to spread news that scare people into thinking negative so they sell. When they do sell lower one after another, this vouchers will scope.......... Its a game of fear - some fear fgactor involves. When one have that fear experience , its very real, hand shake, head shake.........cannot even type the correct figure to sell. When the correct figures are eventually typed, the asking goes down further. It was like that. Hopefully things can get better. Just hope. Stocky901      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 21:33) Posted: Someone said YZJ will go down to 40c.. when hah? This forum has a lot of brainless peoples
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
HVRRVH Elite	03-Jun-2014 00:42        HVRRVH About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree. Must do own research and analysis if want to buy shares. I don' t know the intention of some people, there is this guy who ' ask' and ' encourage' people to buy crap shares over so many different threads with his one liner or few words statement. Don' t know what he up to? There are some just ' shout' target price suka suka and some like to forecast doom of a counter when it appears that they sold too early or miss the price surge. Having said that, forum is still useful as some views are objective and analytical.  Stocky901      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 21:33) Posted: Someone said YZJ will go down to 40c.. when hah? This forum has a lot of brainless peoples
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
steven080967 Senior	02-Jun-2014 23:16        steven080967 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "careful trader/investor"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Mr Ren tried to do a Carl Icahn, to be an activisit investor but got hit by dirty tricks from Tianjin Guoheng who resisted his involvement.  Ren Yuanlin seems like an outstanding person with integrity and good values, at the end of the day he will be cleared and its business as usual at YJZ. YJZ is excuting business beautifully. Solid growth company. Proffitable. No concerns on the stability of the YJZ business. My play on this trade: When there is blood in the streets, buy and hold, it might take a week, a month or 3 months, the stock price will be back up to $1.13 prior to the news release from Tianjin Guoheng. That is an 8.5% gain. No brainer.
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
Stocky901 Supreme	02-Jun-2014 21:33        Stocky901 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Someone said YZJ will go down to 40c.. when hah? This forum has a lot of brainless peoples
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
Oldbird Master	02-Jun-2014 20:25        Oldbird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Noted.. Thank you cheongsl      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 20:03) Posted: Attached my work FYI.   cheongsl      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 19:55) Posted: Yup! long time no see...  Fundamentally there are no reason for me to release, today pick up some more at $1.05.
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
cheongsl Master	02-Jun-2014 20:03        cheongsl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Attached my work FYI.   cheongsl      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 19:55) Posted: Yup! long time no see...  Fundamentally there are no reason for me to release, today pick up some more at $1.05. Oldbird      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 07:59) Posted: Hello Cheong, long time no see.. These are my views: YZJ stock price will be under pressured till the dust is settled which will take some times The solid book orders n delivery can not be fake.. This company wont die even Ren quit under the worst case. Accordingly all their lending business are fully morgate backed n generally are with personal guarantee. As a investor, we can look to buy more if our exposure is bearable... If not, reduce exposure or take some chips off table?come back when we have clearer picture Cheers guys
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
cheongsl Master	02-Jun-2014 19:55        cheongsl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yup! long time no see...  Fundamentally there are no reason for me to release, today pick up some more at $1.05. Oldbird      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 07:59) Posted: Hello Cheong, long time no see.. These are my views: YZJ stock price will be under pressured till the dust is settled which will take some times The solid book orders n delivery can not be fake.. This company wont die even Ren quit under the worst case. Accordingly all their lending business are fully morgate backed n generally are with personal guarantee. As a investor, we can look to buy more if our exposure is bearable... If not, reduce exposure or take some chips off table?come back when we have clearer picture Cheers guys cheongsl      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 06:52) Posted: I don' t have crystal ball, and I don' t play god, so what make you think that it will be below $1 this week, if it does not. I don' t like to tell people you can do A and follow by B. because if both event are 50% chances of happening then you are actually betting on 25% chance event will follow what you think. If I believe the stock is good, why should I sell in the first place. What make the confident to buy the stock when it go lower?
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
ronleech Elite	02-Jun-2014 14:39        ronleech About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Believe in yourself. Ride with the waves......"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	sorry typo 104 105 lah...lol
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
Stocky901 Supreme	02-Jun-2014 14:33        Stocky901 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wow. Tat's a lot. Due to the news on successful delivery.? ronleech      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 14:16) Posted: stablily holding at 1.4 1.5 region...guess it will stay within such range unless anything major happened...
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
ronleech Elite	02-Jun-2014 14:16        ronleech About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Believe in yourself. Ride with the waves......"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	stablily holding at 1.4 1.5 region...guess it will stay within such range unless anything major happened...
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
jj7007 Veteran	02-Jun-2014 13:42        jj7007 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, not wise lah. Just that we learn after paying alof of school fees down the years!! haha But like u said $ warm warm in pocket is better. If it go higher, at least u make already. One cant always buy at the lowest or sell at highest. Most important is to protect our bullets. BMW320      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 12:17) Posted: Good. Wise Sharing. jj7007      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 12:15) Posted: Bro, just in case u nv read pages before. I already sold at high just days ago, and shorted on friday when it was 1.065 and covered 1.035. Didnt want to wait for it to go lower just in case it halts! haha My view now is downward biased, I will only buy back if the supports of $1 is proven to be strong when it is tested again. Otherwise, I' m looking for a lower entry based on the prices which I have mentioned already. At this moment, not interested to make short terms trade cuz I have no time, and also not worth making 2-3k and get caught either must carry a baby (Pick up shares) or an even bigger loss.
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
kyrie100 Member	02-Jun-2014 13:36        kyrie100 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Am all out @ avg 1.0475.
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
Demostation Supreme	02-Jun-2014 13:11        Demostation About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is comforting to know for shortists that whenever a stock fell down for whatever reasons, logical or illogical, it would not go up quickly. Normally takes a few sessions to move up.   Like when you fell sick because of some bad ailment,   you didn' t come out of your bed quickly the next day. Need some time to gain composture.
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
KepoChicken Master	02-Jun-2014 13:10        KepoChicken About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	upside limited... i got feeling... once ppl throw... all ppl will just follow...
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
duderino Member	02-Jun-2014 12:43        duderino About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sorry, here is the working link for the story by SeaShip News, a division of Asia Shipping Media, that covers Southeast Asia http://seashipnews.com/News/SGX-forces-Yangzijiang-to-disclose-damaging-allegations-made-against-its-chairman/3w3c2245.html
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
duderino Member	02-Jun-2014 12:39        duderino About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Further developments in the Yangzijiang case by the media team that broke the story in the first place http://seashipnews.com/News/SGX-forces-Yangzijiang-to-disclose-damaging-allegations-made-against-its-chairman/3w3c2245.html http://www.sinoshipnews.com/News/Yangzijiang-dismisses-Tianjin-Guoheng-allegations-as-%E2%80%98mischievous%E2%80%99-/3w3c2701.html
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
BMW320 Member	02-Jun-2014 12:17        BMW320 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good. Wise Sharing. jj7007      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 12:15) Posted: Bro, just in case u nv read pages before. I already sold at high just days ago, and shorted on friday when it was 1.065 and covered 1.035. Didnt want to wait for it to go lower just in case it halts! haha My view now is downward biased, I will only buy back if the supports of $1 is proven to be strong when it is tested again. Otherwise, I' m looking for a lower entry based on the prices which I have mentioned already. At this moment, not interested to make short terms trade cuz I have no time, and also not worth making 2-3k and get caught either must carry a baby (Pick up shares) or an even bigger loss. BMW320      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 12:01) Posted: Bro, conclusion? Ka Ki Kong Ka Ki Song?  I am aligned with you based on these   -  But this is just me, and I am very prone to be wrong hahaha.  This is always RIGHT ! - In short, whether u are bull or bear in this counter, just use common sense and trading logic to have ur cuts losses and plan B in place.  I dont hold stock or take up position unless i see a huge opportunities. The only certain is - Money in the pocket is never wrong. Stock are a speculative tools only.  And you need huge courage to earn $$$. Keyboard Warriors or Wayang on Paper to me is a waste of time and not productivity.
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
jj7007 Veteran	02-Jun-2014 12:15        jj7007 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, just in case u nv read pages before. I already sold at high just days ago, and shorted on friday when it was 1.065 and covered 1.035. Didnt want to wait for it to go lower just in case it halts! haha My view now is downward biased, I will only buy back if the supports of $1 is proven to be strong when it is tested again. Otherwise, I' m looking for a lower entry based on the prices which I have mentioned already. At this moment, not interested to make short terms trade cuz I have no time, and also not worth making 2-3k and get caught either must carry a baby (Pick up shares) or an even bigger loss. BMW320      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 12:01) Posted: Bro, conclusion? Ka Ki Kong Ka Ki Song?  I am aligned with you based on these   -  But this is just me, and I am very prone to be wrong hahaha.  This is always RIGHT ! - In short, whether u are bull or bear in this counter, just use common sense and trading logic to have ur cuts losses and plan B in place.  I dont hold stock or take up position unless i see a huge opportunities. The only certain is - Money in the pocket is never wrong. Stock are a speculative tools only.  And you need huge courage to earn $$$. Keyboard Warriors or Wayang on Paper to me is a waste of time and not productivity.  jj7007      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 11:20) Posted: Not many ppl will admit, but even if they buy at $1.005 they are still holding onto a loss based on their average price. So they are thinking sell with small loss or not? Or take profit from the contra trade? I still believe the downside bias is strong, and this is a chance for them to push up the price slightly to sell and trap more ppl. hindsight is always accurate. But to me Buy at 1.005 and sell at 1.05 for a 4k profit is not worth my peace of mind. I see this more as a opportunity to take a short position. But this is just me, and I am very prone to be wrong hahaha. In short, whether u are bull or bear in this counter, just use common sense and trading logic to have ur cuts losses and plan B in place.
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me
BMW320 Member	02-Jun-2014 12:01        BMW320 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, conclusion? Ka Ki Kong Ka Ki Song?  I am aligned with you based on these   -  But this is just me, and I am very prone to be wrong hahaha.  This is always RIGHT ! - In short, whether u are bull or bear in this counter, just use common sense and trading logic to have ur cuts losses and plan B in place.  I dont hold stock or take up position unless i see a huge opportunities. The only certain is - Money in the pocket is never wrong. Stock are a speculative tools only.  And you need huge courage to earn $$$. Keyboard Warriors or Wayang on Paper to me is a waste of time and not productivity.  jj7007      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 11:20) Posted: Not many ppl will admit, but even if they buy at $1.005 they are still holding onto a loss based on their average price. So they are thinking sell with small loss or not? Or take profit from the contra trade? I still believe the downside bias is strong, and this is a chance for them to push up the price slightly to sell and trap more ppl. hindsight is always accurate. But to me Buy at 1.005 and sell at 1.05 for a 4k profit is not worth my peace of mind. I see this more as a opportunity to take a short position. But this is just me, and I am very prone to be wrong hahaha. In short, whether u are bull or bear in this counter, just use common sense and trading logic to have ur cuts losses and plan B in place. phil1314      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 10:33) Posted: Really must thank those bloggers who wanted to see blood and sold short but there was nothing wrong with the company and rumour was merely a civil legal suit directed against the Chairman with no further court actions yet. Today those who bought can sell to make some money. As there is no legal suit directed against company it's value should be intact. The company, in my opinion, is always a good take over target if the Chairman has to sell his stake.
Useful To Me  Not Useful To Me

                                                         First   < Newer   16721-16740 of 19560   Older>   Last