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AhLiang Elite	17-May-2020 16:03        AhLiang About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Even the 2 bulls of this forum don't show up now.
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look@bright Elite	17-May-2020 15:44        look@bright About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	still can borrow to short?
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SinglePore Member	17-May-2020 15:42        SinglePore About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Singapore Airlines Is Now Most Shorted Stock in City-State https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-15/singapore-air-most-shorted-stock-in-city-state-as-profit-falls The short-covering will be very fierce during relieve rally, as the stock has reached the extreme short position. SG gov is in talks with several countries to reopen air travel. Every country is now so eager to work towards reopening. Just forget stupid WHO direction to do lockdown for a long time.    Normally that event will easily spark only a small relieve rally, but the rally will be exacerbated with the short-covering. Just beware of which cycle we are in now to determine your trading strategy, in case you are a short-term trader.
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oreocookie Senior	17-May-2020 13:11        oreocookie About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	not really... DBS, ST Engineering have been climbing up for the last 10 years. AhLiang      ( Date: 17-May-2020 11:40) Posted: Long-term investors suffer more. If we look around, all old-brand blue chips have been declining over many years. Banks, Kep, Sem, properties. ..almost everything is cheap and going cheaper if we look over the last 20, 30 years. All of them will now have a new ceiling which is lower than before in the poat-Covid era.
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Acl2013 Veteran	17-May-2020 12:34        Acl2013 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	$3.90 this is the price all bad news included, right issue, next q how bad of business, next year or few more years losses profit etc.... The day chart show double bottom, and near by 4.28 gap waiting to be cover,  So any  more bad news to be come? No body know, buy at fear and sell on optimism all forgotten?
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newbieliu Elite	17-May-2020 11:56        newbieliu About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	mmm i think banks have risen by 50-100% over the last 10 years. ?  mmm the blue chips have been risen in tandem with US in the past 5 years till 2019 too mmmm  A few have dropped ferociously, mostly are O& G related. Even before 2014 the O& G are at their peaks too.... mmm AhLiang      ( Date: 17-May-2020 11:40) Posted: Long-term investors suffer more. If we look around, all old-brand blue chips have been declining over many years. Banks, Kep, Sem, properties. ..almost everything is cheap and going cheaper if we look over the last 20, 30 years. All of them will now have a new ceiling which is lower than before in the poat-Covid era.
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boyboy61 Supreme	17-May-2020 11:49        boyboy61 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My wife has SIA shares. She is giving up on the idea of subscribing for the right shares. Will be selling her rights at the right opportune time soon
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AhLiang Elite	17-May-2020 11:40        AhLiang About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Long-term investors suffer more. If we look around, all old-brand blue chips have been declining over many years. Banks, Kep, Sem, properties. ..almost everything is cheap and going cheaper if we look over the last 20, 30 years. All of them will now have a new ceiling which is lower than before in the poat-Covid era.
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SinglePore Member	17-May-2020 11:07        SinglePore About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I empathize you on the money lost. You are not alone. Big boys like Warren Buffets are also suffering losses. We are living in an unprecedented time with so many weird things happening around us. While the Main Street is suffering with so many layoffs, the Wall Street keeps rallying even higher than pre-Covid. That has caught many into surprised. The US Fed has flooded the Wall Street, buying corporate bond ETFs and propped up stock prices. The US banks now are also flooding the global market in a similar way, propping stock prices that they want. We can' t predict with a normal logic anymore.  If we are in a tight financial situation, we should stay away from trading or gambling in the market. It is easy to get our emotion in bad shape.  Win2607      ( Date: 16-May-2020 22:45) Posted: Please advise which other counters which I can consider.I am noob, I already dumped all my money into bitcoins and SIA. I already burst my Bitcoin trading, now only left with this SIA short position.Hopefully the price will come down to 3.70 and I will exit and wait for next entry short price at 4.40. newb1234      ( Date: 16-May-2020 22:39) Posted: if you got no experience in trading..it is best you avoid SIA altogether. It is too volatile now and who knows next day there might be a news to support the aviation industry with a stimulus or even bigger relief package. Also, too many technicalities around pricing with the rights issue etc. If you are into short term trading, don' t place all your " bets" into one bet. do it bits by bits and be very nimble at catching price changes. Always understand the maximum loss you are willing to take in the bet and also the risk/reward that comes with it. Plan your entry and plan your exit. Plan a target price in mind and stick to it. Plan an exit with stop loss. Check the counter resistance and support levels. Set your price entry / exit around it. Wait for the price to come to you rather than you going right into the market. Patience is the key. There are so many good bets/counters around with better probability of winning. Be careful.
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AhLiang Elite	17-May-2020 05:25        AhLiang About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Where is 'Expert'? Come out! Don't hide! Don't change your nick! One day can change nick 2 times WTF! Bla Bla Bla SIA can chiong to $8 and above now what happen? Lol!
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Win2607 Member	17-May-2020 02:27        Win2607 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thank you for your advise, after reading it, I do feel that I am gambling.I did not put stop loss for my bitcoin trading, I got because I think the price will not crashed but it did happened and burst my account. I want to be a trader and not a gambler but I do not know much about the FA and TA, I just started trading about a month ago,I got no trading plan and I trade based on reading on postings in the forum and based on my feelings. But it seems like I am always on the wrong side. Much appreciated for the kind advise, I am thinking of attending courses that many traders offer online,(any recommedations from any bros here?)  maybe that may helps to improve my trading knowleges. I really hope I can be an expert day/swing trader like most of you here.    nngeeh      ( Date: 17-May-2020 01:01) Posted: My view for your future trade, always go in with a plan ... especially short term. We long or short with certain criteria and stop loss. If the price/ news/ deviate from that criteria, we must learn to let go .... and move on. It' s either we are correct, or wrong. We move on to the next trade. However, if you position each trade as " must win" , " hard fight" and especially " win back my losses" , you are leaning towards gambling side which will be dangerous .... and that is not trading or investing. According to the stock trading platform, eToro, a staggering 80% of day traders lose money over the course of a year, with the median &ldquo loss&rdquo being 36.3%. So, you might need to rethink your strategy on trading .... like ... what is the reason that you shorted SIA at $3.8? If your reference is based on this forum where someone is saying that it' ll go below $3, or even $2.5.... then, that will not be a good source of reference. This platform can be used for sharing, but could also be used by BBs to lure ppl to keep shorting so that they can cover back their own short. At the moment, the lowest is $3.7. No one will definitely know whether it' ll go below this, and if it does ... when. Unless you have done your own analysis based on TA and FA and with a plan on how to limit yr risk and exit strategy .....you could be leaning towards gambling side ... and do take note of the statistic from e-Toro above. And, don' t borrow money for trading ..... it' ll affect your emotion and will in return affect your trading. You need to be clear on your plan .... you can' t fight the market. It' s never a hard fight because we can' t fight against it ... we can only try to predict the market based on FA/ TA ... and it' s either we are correct or we are wrong (and move on).  My view.. Win2607      ( Date: 16-May-2020 22:22) Posted: No worries bro, I appreciate and thanks for your advise.I understand that nobody can predict the market. It Is just my own choice to fight all the way! Now already no turning back already. If I let go now, I will feel very unwillingly. at least I put up a hard fight, maybe I can win back my losses.
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nngeeh Veteran	17-May-2020 01:01        nngeeh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	My view for your future trade, always go in with a plan ... especially short term. We long or short with certain criteria and stop loss. If the price/ news/ deviate from that criteria, we must learn to let go .... and move on. It' s either we are correct, or wrong. We move on to the next trade. However, if you position each trade as " must win" , " hard fight" and especially " win back my losses" , you are leaning towards gambling side which will be dangerous .... and that is not trading or investing. According to the stock trading platform, eToro, a staggering 80% of day traders lose money over the course of a year, with the median &ldquo loss&rdquo being 36.3%. So, you might need to rethink your strategy on trading .... like ... what is the reason that you shorted SIA at $3.8? If your reference is based on this forum where someone is saying that it' ll go below $3, or even $2.5.... then, that will not be a good source of reference. This platform can be used for sharing, but could also be used by BBs to lure ppl to keep shorting so that they can cover back their own short. At the moment, the lowest is $3.7. No one will definitely know whether it' ll go below this, and if it does ... when. Unless you have done your own analysis based on TA and FA and with a plan on how to limit yr risk and exit strategy .....you could be leaning towards gambling side ... and do take note of the statistic from e-Toro above. And, don' t borrow money for trading ..... it' ll affect your emotion and will in return affect your trading. You need to be clear on your plan .... you can' t fight the market. It' s never a hard fight because we can' t fight against it ... we can only try to predict the market based on FA/ TA ... and it' s either we are correct or we are wrong (and move on).  My view.. Win2607      ( Date: 16-May-2020 22:22) Posted: No worries bro, I appreciate and thanks for your advise.I understand that nobody can predict the market. It Is just my own choice to fight all the way! Now already no turning back already. If I let go now, I will feel very unwillingly. at least I put up a hard fight, maybe I can win back my losses.  uiop1223      ( Date: 16-May-2020 22:10) Posted: Er... no no. Sorry if i give u wrong impression. I bet within my means.. my life and family will not be affected even if i lost. Now, we need to ensure our daily needs are protected before we long or short the mkt.. pls think twice. Sorry if i given u impression to go all in. Life is not certain. Stk mkt even more uncertain. Theres no confirmation that SIA will drop. This is based on each thinking and prediction based on informed decision. But no one knows what will happen in future. Like, i dont even know if i still be alive tml?
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Win2607 Member	16-May-2020 23:52        Win2607 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ok, thanks for advise.  Justice888      ( Date: 16-May-2020 23:02) Posted: Agree. I still remember how SATS chiong up from low of 2.50 all the way up to $3.80 within 3 days after the first relief package was announce . Imagine those who shorted all heart Attack newb1234      ( Date: 16-May-2020 22:39) Posted: if you got no experience in trading..it is best you avoid SIA altogether. It is too volatile now and who knows next day there might be a news to support the aviation industry with a stimulus or even bigger relief package. Also, too many technicalities around pricing with the rights issue etc. If you are into short term trading, don' t place all your " bets" into one bet. do it bits by bits and be very nimble at catching price changes. Always understand the maximum loss you are willing to take in the bet and also the risk/reward that comes with it. Plan your entry and plan your exit. Plan a target price in mind and stick to it. Plan an exit with stop loss. Check the counter resistance and support levels. Set your price entry / exit around it. Wait for the price to come to you rather than you going right into the market. Patience is the key. There are so many good bets/counters around with better probability of winning. Be careful.
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Justice888 Supreme	16-May-2020 23:02        Justice888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree. I still remember how SATS chiong up from low of 2.50 all the way up to $3.80 within 3 days after the first relief package was announce . Imagine those who shorted all heart Attack newb1234      ( Date: 16-May-2020 22:39) Posted: if you got no experience in trading..it is best you avoid SIA altogether. It is too volatile now and who knows next day there might be a news to support the aviation industry with a stimulus or even bigger relief package. Also, too many technicalities around pricing with the rights issue etc. If you are into short term trading, don' t place all your " bets" into one bet. do it bits by bits and be very nimble at catching price changes. Always understand the maximum loss you are willing to take in the bet and also the risk/reward that comes with it. Plan your entry and plan your exit. Plan a target price in mind and stick to it. Plan an exit with stop loss. Check the counter resistance and support levels. Set your price entry / exit around it. Wait for the price to come to you rather than you going right into the market. Patience is the key. There are so many good bets/counters around with better probability of winning. Be careful.   Win2607      ( Date: 16-May-2020 18:31) Posted: Yes, you are right. all gone with the wind , I admits I  am sucks in trading, I was never into trading but uring this covid19 period, is tough for me as I lost my income, I came across all those ONLINE ad on trading for passive income, therefore I try to go into it and the result is devastating. I believe many people out there share the same plight as me, That Stupid bitcoin trading are also BS....keep bursting my account.  Long, it can crashed down and when I short the price shot up. in short, I got no luck in trading.
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newb1234 Member	16-May-2020 22:58        newb1234 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hard to advise. Personally I feel many stocks which are on good recovery trajectory are quite expensive (see PE ratio) and stocks with slower recovery are getting whacked down. It' s like not a good time to be long position, personally i feel. If I am you, cut loss early is better than going all in. the market is always there. See you have money or not only.
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Win2607 Member	16-May-2020 22:45        Win2607 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Please advise which other counters which I can consider.I am noob, I already dumped all my money into bitcoins and SIA. I already burst my Bitcoin trading, now only left with this SIA short position.Hopefully the price will come down to 3.70 and I will exit and wait for next entry short price at 4.40. newb1234      ( Date: 16-May-2020 22:39) Posted: if you got no experience in trading..it is best you avoid SIA altogether. It is too volatile now and who knows next day there might be a news to support the aviation industry with a stimulus or even bigger relief package. Also, too many technicalities around pricing with the rights issue etc. If you are into short term trading, don' t place all your " bets" into one bet. do it bits by bits and be very nimble at catching price changes. Always understand the maximum loss you are willing to take in the bet and also the risk/reward that comes with it. Plan your entry and plan your exit. Plan a target price in mind and stick to it. Plan an exit with stop loss. Check the counter resistance and support levels. Set your price entry / exit around it. Wait for the price to come to you rather than you going right into the market. Patience is the key. There are so many good bets/counters around with better probability of winning. Be careful.   Win2607      ( Date: 16-May-2020 18:31) Posted: Yes, you are right. all gone with the wind , I admits I  am sucks in trading, I was never into trading but uring this covid19 period, is tough for me as I lost my income, I came across all those ONLINE ad on trading for passive income, therefore I try to go into it and the result is devastating. I believe many people out there share the same plight as me, That Stupid bitcoin trading are also BS....keep bursting my account.  Long, it can crashed down and when I short the price shot up. in short, I got no luck in trading.
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Win2607 Member	16-May-2020 22:41        Win2607 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yah, how you know? I paid a few thousand for what crap algorithm trading, what can mirror his trade...F^@%@*%& *%# but he lost all my money. I almost signing up for Jeff bishop, around few thousands, and he will trade live and let you mirror his trade, he GURANTEED Profits  !!!! He ever gain up to 1357% percents per trade, but he trades options, too complicated for me, therefore I did not sign up. If I know how to trade options, I will sure sign up, He dont looks like a scam to me and he ever trained a few traders to hits Million$.  uiop1223      ( Date: 16-May-2020 22:18) Posted: I dont believe in experts. Like those who host trading seminars and ask u to pay thousands of dollars to have their trading strategy. If they can really make money all the time, why will they want to share this knowledge. Theres this guy who develop an algorithm to win at horse races and only tell his story after he made 1b bucks. Its clear that if a person really have ?sure-win? strategy, why will he share? By sharing, he cant no longer hold advantage over the mkt participants. www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-03/the-gambler-who-cracked-the-horse-racing-code Win2607      ( Date: 16-May-2020 20:42) Posted: May I ask all expert traders here, is it a MUST/NORM for all traders to burst their accounts once or lose big before becoming an expert trader ? I am very motivated to be a trader(which I don' t think I have the cut to be one now) because I read those books on Jesse Livermore and turtle trade, saw the news on BNF japanese trader. Is inspiring ! but now I felt that those are just  like fairy tales.
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newb1234 Member	16-May-2020 22:39        newb1234 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if you got no experience in trading..it is best you avoid SIA altogether. It is too volatile now and who knows next day there might be a news to support the aviation industry with a stimulus or even bigger relief package. Also, too many technicalities around pricing with the rights issue etc. If you are into short term trading, don' t place all your " bets" into one bet. do it bits by bits and be very nimble at catching price changes. Always understand the maximum loss you are willing to take in the bet and also the risk/reward that comes with it. Plan your entry and plan your exit. Plan a target price in mind and stick to it. Plan an exit with stop loss. Check the counter resistance and support levels. Set your price entry / exit around it. Wait for the price to come to you rather than you going right into the market. Patience is the key. There are so many good bets/counters around with better probability of winning. Be careful.   Win2607      ( Date: 16-May-2020 18:31) Posted: Yes, you are right. all gone with the wind , I admits I  am sucks in trading, I was never into trading but uring this covid19 period, is tough for me as I lost my income, I came across all those ONLINE ad on trading for passive income, therefore I try to go into it and the result is devastating. I believe many people out there share the same plight as me, That Stupid bitcoin trading are also BS....keep bursting my account.  Long, it can crashed down and when I short the price shot up. in short, I got no luck in trading.  danger      ( Date: 16-May-2020 18:02) Posted: Think kinda of suit your nick... gonewiththeWIN
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Win2607 Member	16-May-2020 22:22        Win2607 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No worries bro, I appreciate and thanks for your advise.I understand that nobody can predict the market. It Is just my own choice to fight all the way! Now already no turning back already. If I let go now, I will feel very unwillingly. at least I put up a hard fight, maybe I can win back my losses.  uiop1223      ( Date: 16-May-2020 22:10) Posted: Er... no no. Sorry if i give u wrong impression. I bet within my means.. my life and family will not be affected even if i lost. Now, we need to ensure our daily needs are protected before we long or short the mkt.. pls think twice. Sorry if i given u impression to go all in. Life is not certain. Stk mkt even more uncertain. Theres no confirmation that SIA will drop. This is based on each thinking and prediction based on informed decision. But no one knows what will happen in future. Like, i dont even know if i still be alive tml? Win2607      ( Date: 16-May-2020 21:47) Posted: Hi bro, thanks for your advise, I already decide to win it big or lose it all, if I  burst this CFD account, I will use my credit lines to SHORT again as what bro Uiop1223 advise. I will just go big or go home.
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uiop1223 Supreme	16-May-2020 22:18        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I dont believe in experts. Like those who host trading seminars and ask u to pay thousands of dollars to have their trading strategy. If they can really make money all the time, why will they want to share this knowledge. Theres this guy who develop an algorithm to win at horse races and only tell his story after he made 1b bucks. Its clear that if a person really have ?sure-win? strategy, why will he share? By sharing, he cant no longer hold advantage over the mkt participants. www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-03/the-gambler-who-cracked-the-horse-racing-code Win2607      ( Date: 16-May-2020 20:42) Posted: May I ask all expert traders here, is it a MUST/NORM for all traders to burst their accounts once or lose big before becoming an expert trader ? I am very motivated to be a trader(which I don' t think I have the cut to be one now) because I read those books on Jesse Livermore and turtle trade, saw the news on BNF japanese trader. Is inspiring ! but now I felt that those are just  like fairy tales.
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