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sheerluck Supreme	07-Jun-2016 18:38        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hey hey.  Nice to see you here again! Last two year operation burnt US$45mil.  This year will be different?  But dont worry.  They already made and executed plan.  Offload vessels and transferred out loan.  Now gearing dropped.  Bank can loan more to them again.  Wouldn' t go burst.  Swiber is role model.  Swiber until now still listed right.  Now is bank scare they default.  Haha!   darocupcake      ( Date: 07-Jun-2016 18:30) Posted: Dun forget they got q3 profit also lei sheerluck      ( Date: 07-Jun-2016 18:27) Posted: Correct.  So cash balance at 31 Mar is US$117mil.  1 April redeemed US$74mil so left US$43mil.  Nov series 2 US$44mil mature.  US$43mil - US$44mil left with -US$1mil.
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darocupcake Master	07-Jun-2016 18:30        darocupcake About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dun forget they got q3 profit also lei sheerluck      ( Date: 07-Jun-2016 18:27) Posted: Correct.  So cash balance at 31 Mar is US$117mil.  1 April redeemed US$74mil so left US$43mil.  Nov series 2 US$44mil mature.  US$43mil - US$44mil left with -US$1mil. RedEye1811      ( Date: 07-Jun-2016 18:12) Posted: April 1. One note series already fully redeemed.
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sheerluck Supreme	07-Jun-2016 18:27        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Correct.  So cash balance at 31 Mar is US$117mil.  1 April redeemed US$74mil so left US$43mil.  Nov series 2 US$44mil mature.  US$43mil - US$44mil left with -US$1mil. RedEye1811      ( Date: 07-Jun-2016 18:12) Posted: April 1. One note series already fully redeemed. sheerluck      ( Date: 07-Jun-2016 17:51) Posted: Two notes maturing before end of this year.  By then cash will be tight.  In fact insufficient unless their ops cashflow is positive
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RedEye1811 Master	07-Jun-2016 18:12        RedEye1811 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	April 1. One note series already fully redeemed. sheerluck      ( Date: 07-Jun-2016 17:51) Posted: Two notes maturing before end of this year.  By then cash will be tight.  In fact insufficient unless their ops cashflow is positive   arkan1111      ( Date: 07-Jun-2016 17:27) Posted: Go to SGX and Vallianz, then click on 545 will go to Vallianz company disclosure & Info, click Financial and see how much is Vallianz cash & ST investment.  Someone thinks 157.34million is considered short of cash & needed to issue right share???
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sheerluck Supreme	07-Jun-2016 17:51        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Two notes maturing before end of this year.  By then cash will be tight.  In fact insufficient unless their ops cashflow is positive   arkan1111      ( Date: 07-Jun-2016 17:27) Posted: Go to SGX and Vallianz, then click on 545 will go to Vallianz company disclosure & Info, click Financial and see how much is Vallianz cash & ST investment.  Someone thinks 157.34million is considered short of cash & needed to issue right share???
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arkan1111 Veteran	07-Jun-2016 17:27        arkan1111 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Go to SGX and Vallianz, then click on 545 will go to Vallianz company disclosure & Info, click Financial and see how much is Vallianz cash & ST investment.  Someone thinks 157.34million is considered short of cash & needed to issue right share???
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RedEye1811 Master	07-Jun-2016 17:13        RedEye1811 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The cash injection as per the original announcement was to be for working capital. Where is it that this injection had been pigeon-holded for purchase of assets? Can you please provide evidence to support your statement so we clear and no misunderstanding. earlybird14      ( Date: 07-Jun-2016 06:36) Posted: http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/vallianzs-deal-with-potential-china-investor-crrc-falls-through How can it be good one? Vallianz initially accepted this placement with effect of confidence injection and extra cash injection at 4.3cents. Now vallianz is 3.8 cents. What common thinking about it? Investors runaway? In fact, vallianz financial position is very tight. This cash injection is very crutial. If they had already committed themselves by purchasing some assets with this placement, now this cash is gone, they may implement cash call through right issue to cover the hole. newbie24      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 23:38) Posted: We just have to let the market decide... I personally feel that the news is a good one - share dilution is just such a big issue taken very negatively in the market recently. While 0.043 is a higher price than current, it will act as a cap and a strong resistance as investors will not want to hold any shares beyond the placement price, limiting the upsize. I have some holdings in this so take my opinion with a pinch of salt
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chakramagik1989 Member	07-Jun-2016 17:12        chakramagik1989 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bull run to start for Vallianz? Been sleeping for too long
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whylikethat Veteran	07-Jun-2016 16:36        whylikethat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Last minutes stunt again??? whylikethat      ( Date: 07-Jun-2016 16:33) Posted: Starting to move up?
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whylikethat Veteran	07-Jun-2016 16:33        whylikethat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Starting to move up?
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newbie24 Veteran	07-Jun-2016 07:45        newbie24 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think you're bringing in a very bearish thought without much substantiation, I don't see any announcements stating they're intending to buy/buying any vessels in the near future. Also, if the price dropped to say below 0.043 you'd probably comment that the investor had no confidence blah blah blah, which is equally bad. Let the market decide.
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earlybird14 Supreme	07-Jun-2016 06:36        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/vallianzs-deal-with-potential-china-investor-crrc-falls-through How can it be good one? Vallianz initially accepted this placement with effect of confidence injection and extra cash injection at 4.3cents. Now vallianz is 3.8 cents. What common thinking about it? Investors runaway? In fact, vallianz financial position is very tight. This cash injection is very crutial. If they had already committed themselves by purchasing some assets with this placement, now this cash is gone, they may implement cash call through right issue to cover the hole. newbie24      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 23:38) Posted: We just have to let the market decide... I personally feel that the news is a good one - share dilution is just such a big issue taken very negatively in the market recently. While 0.043 is a higher price than current, it will act as a cap and a strong resistance as investors will not want to hold any shares beyond the placement price, limiting the upsize. I have some holdings in this so take my opinion with a pinch of salt
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sheerluck Supreme	07-Jun-2016 00:48        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Swiber trading at P/B of 0.12. Vallianz trading at P/B of 0.40. Vallianz walking Swiber old path to become Swiber II. You think more likely Swiber' s P/B move towards Vallianz' s or Vallianz' s P/B move towards Swiber' s? DYDD.
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newbie24 Veteran	06-Jun-2016 23:38        newbie24 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	We just have to let the market decide... I personally feel that the news is a good one - share dilution is just such a big issue taken very negatively in the market recently. While 0.043 is a higher price than current, it will act as a cap and a strong resistance as investors will not want to hold any shares beyond the placement price, limiting the upsize. I have some holdings in this so take my opinion with a pinch of salt
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sheerluck Supreme	06-Jun-2016 21:21        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	vwry sad to hear that....haha! darocupcake      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 20:57) Posted: does nt bother me what stall coz i am nt interested in ur comment lolx sheerluck      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 20:50) Posted: Lolx...someone must have used me account at 11:24am....anyway, you read my comment on this agreement I posted on 25 Jan.  Is like chicken stall collabration with laptop stall.  Very synergic.  Chicken stall can use laptop tech to cook better chicken rice. Anyway. gd luck tmr...
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sheerluck Supreme	06-Jun-2016 21:00        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It could be.  But oil since have doubled in price so in theory if Vallianz price move in tandem it should be 8cts by now.  But it didn' t.  It retracked back to 3.8cts even though oil price doubled and Vallianz keeps reporting " good" profit and gives dividend (ofc masking the bad cashflow!). If you really think their so-called synergies of CRRC diesel engine tech is applicable to ship charter who dont build ship, then I got nothing to say.  They come out with this kind of lame reason, I dont understand why people want to believe it.  If they say CRRC want to be diversify I can still accept it. Anyway, the oil price aided the BB if nothing else. Anyway, gd luck as well. RedEye1811      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 20:46) Posted: They announced this deal Jan 25th. The price moved in the 3.8-4.1c for next 16 trading days till Feb 25/Feb26...then it spiked up. The spike was more to do with the rise in oil and speculation on OPEC and non-OPEC doing deal...the announcement was not the catalyst for the spike up. Look more closely at trading data. sheerluck      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 20:07) Posted: Already commented that Vallianz dont build ship, how to take advantage of CRRC diesel engine tech.  All howsiao one lah. Now here' s the scary part.    Vallianz hit its lowest of 3.9cts and Vallianz release this " news" which obviously spike up the price.  It hit a high of 5.6cts.  Now that this " agreement" got terminated, imagine what those 258million share transacted during that period wants to do? I don' t want to guess because too scary to guess.
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darocupcake Master	06-Jun-2016 20:57        darocupcake About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	does nt bother me what stall coz i am nt interested in ur comment lolx sheerluck      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 20:50) Posted: Lolx...someone must have used me account at 11:24am....anyway, you read my comment on this agreement I posted on 25 Jan.  Is like chicken stall collabration with laptop stall.  Very synergic.  Chicken stall can use laptop tech to cook better chicken rice. Anyway. gd luck tmr... darocupcake      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 20:42) Posted: Lolx u dun post at t rex coz today up n come her
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sheerluck Supreme	06-Jun-2016 20:50        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lolx...someone must have used me account at 11:24am....anyway, you read my comment on this agreement I posted on 25 Jan.  Is like chicken stall collabration with laptop stall.  Very synergic.  Chicken stall can use laptop tech to cook better chicken rice. Anyway. gd luck tmr... darocupcake      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 20:42) Posted: Lolx u dun post at t rex coz today up n come here sheerluck      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 20:07) Posted: Already commented that Vallianz dont build ship, how to take advantage of CRRC diesel engine tech.  All howsiao one lah. Now here' s the scary part.    Vallianz hit its lowest of 3.9cts and Vallianz release this " news" which obviously spike up the price.  It hit a high of 5.6cts.  Now that this " agreement" got terminated, imagine what those 258million share transacted during that period wants to do? I don' t want to guess because too scary to guess.
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RedEye1811 Master	06-Jun-2016 20:46        RedEye1811 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	They announced this deal Jan 25th. The price moved in the 3.8-4.1c for next 16 trading days till Feb 25/Feb26...then it spiked up. The spike was more to do with the rise in oil and speculation on OPEC and non-OPEC doing deal...the announcement was not the catalyst for the spike up. Look more closely at trading data. sheerluck      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 20:07) Posted: Already commented that Vallianz dont build ship, how to take advantage of CRRC diesel engine tech.  All howsiao one lah. Now here' s the scary part.    Vallianz hit its lowest of 3.9cts and Vallianz release this " news" which obviously spike up the price.  It hit a high of 5.6cts.  Now that this " agreement" got terminated, imagine what those 258million share transacted during that period wants to do? I don' t want to guess because too scary to guess. sheerluck      ( Date: 25-Jan-2016 21:54) Posted: Vallianz already mentioned in their anouncement it is for general working purpose. Let' s see what Vallianz has been up to recently. First, they set up a SPV.  This should reduce their gearing for more debt financing. Thereafter, they acquired two vessels for US$21mil.  10% by shares, 90% by cash (US$19.6mil) to be funded by internal resoruce s and loan.  Vallianz cash balance end of 30 Sep is US$11.6mil.  Now share placement will grant them S23.65mil (or US$16.7). So lower gearing give them more room to take up more loan and share placement gave them more cash.  I think Vallianz can survive for a bit longer. Now the reasons for the CRRC investment in Vallianz seems strange.  Vallianz mentioned CRRC diesel-electric tech can help Vallianz to save fuel.  CRRC said can Vallianz in-house shipping building can help CRRC to penetrate into new segment in the offshore and marine world. Now here the question.  I thought Vallianz only operate ship and has not ship building capabilites?  Vallianz current fleet isn' t CRRC' s diesel-electric egine so hwo to save fuel usign their tech. Aiyo, how come I cannot make sense of their strategic partnership leh?
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darocupcake Master	06-Jun-2016 20:42        darocupcake About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lolx u dun post at t rex coz today up n come here sheerluck      ( Date: 06-Jun-2016 20:07) Posted: Already commented that Vallianz dont build ship, how to take advantage of CRRC diesel engine tech.  All howsiao one lah. Now here' s the scary part.    Vallianz hit its lowest of 3.9cts and Vallianz release this " news" which obviously spike up the price.  It hit a high of 5.6cts.  Now that this " agreement" got terminated, imagine what those 258million share transacted during that period wants to do? I don' t want to guess because too scary to guess. sheerluck      ( Date: 25-Jan-2016 21:54) Posted: Vallianz already mentioned in their anouncement it is for general working purpose. Let' s see what Vallianz has been up to recently. First, they set up a SPV.  This should reduce their gearing for more debt financing. Thereafter, they acquired two vessels for US$21mil.  10% by shares, 90% by cash (US$19.6mil) to be funded by internal resoruce s and loan.  Vallianz cash balance end of 30 Sep is US$11.6mil.  Now share placement will grant them S23.65mil (or US$16.7). So lower gearing give them more room to take up more loan and share placement gave them more cash.  I think Vallianz can survive for a bit longer. Now the reasons for the CRRC investment in Vallianz seems strange.  Vallianz mentioned CRRC diesel-electric tech can help Vallianz to save fuel.  CRRC said can Vallianz in-house shipping building can help CRRC to penetrate into new segment in the offshore and marine world. Now here the question.  I thought Vallianz only operate ship and has not ship building capabilites?  Vallianz current fleet isn' t CRRC' s diesel-electric egine so hwo to save fuel usign their tech. Aiyo, how come I cannot make sense of their strategic partnership leh?
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