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Kelvesy
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04-Jun-2017 23:14
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Delong vs CosmoSteel Gross Margin 16.2% vs 9.5% EBIT Margin 13.1% vs (22.6%) Current Ratio 1.2x vs 4.9x Quick Ratio 0.7x vs 1.5x P/Tangible Book Value 0.3x vs 0.4x P/E 1.6x vs (Loss-Making) In 1HFY2017, CosmoSteel reported a loss of S$4.7mil.  Laura Ng, their CFO, has left and CosmoSteel has entered into watchlist due to MTP entry criteria.  Their outlook is largely affected by the Energy and Marine segments. For Delong, their first quarter results showed an impressive  305.2% increase for profit attributable to equity holders of the company on the back of 43.2% increase in sales. For Aoyu Steel, it is to be sold for RMB 400m when the book value is RMB 94.9m. This means the company is set to gain RMB 305.1m or SGD S$61.85mil before  paying for severance pay and other expenses. It also obtained SGX' s waiver approval for this deal to go through.  CosmoSteel' s inventory turnover days is very long compared to Delong. For any rational investors, I believe -- in terms of valuations -- Delong offers a better deal. The issue I see with Delong is its liquidity.  -- vested --  CosmoSteel 1H FY2017:  http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/CosmoSteel%202QFY2017%20Announcement.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=452834 Delong 1QFY2017:  http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/1Q2017results.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=452043 Delong SGX waiver:  http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/Waiver.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=456140
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Secret_Squirrel
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04-Jun-2017 18:00
Yells: "Stay curious but skeptical" |
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Although Delong does not give out dividend for the past years. At least they had used the funds to reduce the company' s debts.
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humayun
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02-Jun-2017 17:54
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CosmoSteel 5 year dividend performance
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humayun
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02-Jun-2017 17:49
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CosmoSteel 5 year dividend performance Delong  5 year dividend performance 2017 --> 0 2016 --> 0 2015 --> 0 2014 --> 0 2013 --> 0 Delong pattern of reporting
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Kelvesy
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01-Jun-2017 12:03
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How would you value Cosmo Steel and Delong? What are their valuations? 
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ruready
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30-May-2017 08:57
Yells: "Follow the micro penny , May be this is the last train" |
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Delong steel up so much so cosmosteel will be the next steel daring | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Kelvesy
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30-May-2017 08:52
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SGX has been issuing queries to Delong and the management has been able to reply. There might be further potential collaboration as disclosed by company over here: 1.  http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/reply.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=455681 2.  http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/Potential%20Collaboration.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=455448 Is it a good news? I hope so! Looking at the depth, there is around 100k shares queing to sell at $1.55 and $1.6. Wonder if this is placed there to suppress the share price?  |
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Kelvesy
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24-May-2017 14:50
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Hi, the company did not state the returns so far. After last night' s response, I believe it added more clarity to Delong' s recent corporate developments. The share price reacted today.  The company is called  红 领 集 团 (Redcollar) and it is founded by  Zhang DaiLi. 
I believe to be an investor, or invited to be part of the capital raising round, is not easy. Delong' s chairman might have some good business ties to be included. The company is also used as a positive case to study family succession. I believe Redcollar is a fast-grower.  Hence, conclusion, Redcollar is a proper company that is disrupting the traditional business model of clothing business.  More on Redcollar group: https://www.forbes.com/sites/janeho/2016/08/15/chinas-suit-maker-redcollar-blazes-trail-for-mass-made-to-measure/#2e2da9265470 Business Leaders Visit Red Collar Clothing&rsquo s &lsquo Magic&rsquo Factory to Learn About Customization - http://m.yicaiglobal.com/news/50047166.html Who Dares Win - http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/us/2016-06/18/content_25753499.htm A Carpenter Knowing Nothing about Computer Won&rsquo t Be A Good Tailor -  http://www.pandotree.org/en/researchView_id_276.html
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humayun
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23-May-2017 23:00
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Is   it   clear what was the return from diversification to textile business? 
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humayun
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23-May-2017 22:56
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This is very good article http://www.ecns.cn/business/2017/05-23/258559.shtml I am afraid we will see profit decline for the second quarter," Wang said   |
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23-May-2017 21:14
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I think one bro here may have bought into this at high price. The way he posted not vreally meaningful to Delong. I remember delong mention diversified to textile not long ago. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Kelvesy
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23-May-2017 21:05
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Delong is a credible business and there is just too much fearmongering by you.  http://www.ecns.cn/business/2017/05-23/258559.shtml
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23-May-2017 21:02
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At the end whose is the losing I don' t think any willing to take the risk  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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humayun
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23-May-2017 20:13
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Price brought up at this level is most likely by  syndicate. It will come down with or without our participation in the forum. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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height00
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23-May-2017 20:07
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I do agreed no calculations needed but now the problem is that what the point of depressing the price? No benefit to shares holder and no one in the company   buying the stock in supporting that the company is good. Just let the syndicate destroying the stock. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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humayun
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23-May-2017 19:46
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For this counter specially S-Chip you do not need much calculation. Like " Ayou" , they will tell you, nothing much left after expense out!
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Kelvesy
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23-May-2017 19:30
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May I know how you did your calculations?  When they sell their steel plant, they are going to book a profit on disposal. 
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humayun
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23-May-2017 19:16
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In this case SGX is doing excellent job: http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/CoReply.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=454925 Point to highlight Question 2:  We refer to Note 1 on Page 6 on the &ldquo Group&rsquo s investment in EC World Reit&rdquo . When was this acquisition made and did the Company make an announcement on this? Company&rsquo s response : The investment was made in July 2016. There was no announcement made in relation to the transaction as all of the relative figures computed based on the bases set out in Rule 1006 amounted to less than 3%.  |
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humayun
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23-May-2017 18:10
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Within a month its final resting place would be S$0.30. After second quater along with discontinuation of production from  Ayou, you can see it around S$0.10 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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height00
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23-May-2017 16:44
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If company in good shape why price heading down? Most cases is insider bad news that not out yet that cause the price to decline. By judging this stock in low volume maybe just a manipulation by a few parties. But the price depreciation is huge look scary   |
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