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ichiban
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11-Jun-2021 18:44
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I totally agree n feel your sentiments.... It' s truly truly sad to be caught on the wrong side of the equation n seeing the hard earned retirement funds or savings being swallowed up when one thought it is  almost a sure safe investment. The bank, DBS, should know the financial standing n health of the company, and still went ahead with the exercise offer of underwriting/sponsor  of the bondswas because of the commission earned in the millions......bank made more profits n staff got bonus n huge pay packets...... just go n check the pay of the CEO..... only defense the reply will be CAVEAT EMPTOR..... TAKE GOOD CARE, HEALTH IS WEALTH....  
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desmodeus
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11-Jun-2021 18:42
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4c to a dollar😱 when come to $ here, there is no such thing as a sacred cow. remember clob and who creatwd it in the first place
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CFAsenior
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11-Jun-2021 18:29
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People say by the time HYFLUX S$500M6%PERPCAPSEC offered DBS already know Hyflux in trouble Then how come still offer to retirees When Hyflux got suspended thought Temasek Holdings or DBS will help The help never came instead they more interested to put our money in India and save some India bank how come this is happening they took our money to build a plant for the nation and yet when they took over the plant they writeoff all our money and not return to pioneer generation our retirement fund  they have the money to return us our money but instead put in  India  instead why  are the pioneer generation worthless compare to  India  |
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yumsang
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11-Jun-2021 13:09
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cos Hyflux helmed by a juhoobu  ![]()
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zillion
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11-Jun-2021 12:49
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All contracts do have some kind of ' escape clause' and why this is not the case. Obviously pub has structured the contract in such a way that any non compliance they can get TS free. PERP holders are not punters, traders they buy to get a better dividend for their hard earned savings. DBS and all those who kept promoting Hyflux' s closeness to our govt should be responsible too.
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ysh2006
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11-Jun-2021 12:14
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contract is contract....when a house you stay expired at 99 months when time up owner take back will you say he is harsh to you ?....
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vicloo
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11-Jun-2021 12:05
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Yes, ppl will think Sg treated msia harshly on paying them 3c per m3 water and sg saying selling back 50c to jb at loss... these seems harsh.
But PUB treating sg based Hyflux is way harsher... haha. Just fine you and take TS foc when hyflux water output cant meet contractual m3/day...
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Joelton
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11-Jun-2021 10:12
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Hyflux' s judicial managers say Utico has ' no impact' on winding up application
 
THE judicial managers of Hyflux have stated that the beleaguered water treatment company' s white-knight suitor Utico remains unable to meet the minimum conditions required to consider an offer, just as it was before their previous discussions were terminated.
 
In a bourse filing on Thursday, judicial managers Borrelli Walsh (BW) said that while Utico had contacted BW after the latter had filed the winding up application on June 4, it maintained that " Utico' s recent contact and the associated press reports have no impact" on its application to wind up Hyflux.
 
The announcement comes days after The Business Times (BT) on Monday reported that Utico' s chief executive Richard Menezes was attempting to offer the crisis-hit company a rescue deal.
 
Mr Menezes told BT that he had written to BW to " save the company and make it equitable" , and that " liquidation should be the last option" .
 
According to him, the latest proposal will see Hyflux' s unsecured senior creditors receive five cents on the dollar - while retail investors in Hyflux' s preference shares and perpetual securities will receive four cents.
 
BW had previously declined to comment at the time when reached by BT.
 
A virtual town-hall meeting will be held for all Hyflux shareholders on June 18, 2021 at 1pm, where BW will provide updates regarding the judicial management and winding up application.
 
Those who are interested in joining must register by 7pm on June 15 at the registration site. Successful registrants will receive an email by June 17 which will grant them access to the meeting.
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zillion
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11-Jun-2021 09:39
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What is the point of having such meeting when PERPs holders are not getting any preferences in distribution of whatever is left in the liquidation?
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Inferno
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11-Jun-2021 09:04
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It was reported 1.5B. Anything the books are there and it involves judiciary intervention. The books must have been scrutized closely as it involves creditors and possibly takeover. Valuation needs to be crystal clear. I think we show more compassion to MY HSR issue than Hyflux.
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TA_Expert
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10-Jun-2021 22:49
Yells: "The World has changed" |
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According to the JM< the recent offer by Utico has no impact on the winding process. This means that the JM is not interested in the last min offer by Utico.
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Bkng595
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10-Jun-2021 19:07
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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/hyflux-judicial-managers-virtual-townhall-meeting-jun-18-14986274   |
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Bkng595
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09-Jun-2021 22:31
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No way cost to build TS is 1.3b! Much lesser. Must be accounting magic...book big profit from construction of TS and pay management bonus and dividend. Cash flow always negative for many years. All suffered, only pub benefit...haiz!!!
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josemmm123
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09-Jun-2021 10:27
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all trying to snatch the assets of hyflux at dirt cheap price. Is like a dying animal with all the eagles waiting to feast on it.. The shareholders and bondholders still think they can get back their capital?  This one drag on only make their suffering/misery longer then one day  until the day they uplorry. Should just move up and start life afresh... so called " White knights" all blood suckers waiting to pounce and take over assets for cheap..
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Richardlai
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09-Jun-2021 10:04
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Yes everyone thought Hyflux was a national project with govt support , their bonds were sold by DBS. Sadly many got injured badly ....  | ||||
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Joelton
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09-Jun-2021 09:52
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Is white-knight offer Hyflux' s last, best hope?
JUST two days after Hyflux Group' s judicial managers filed an application to wind up the crisis-hit company, Utico CEO Richard Menezes made a sur-
 
prise rescue bid for it. Still, with the proposal short on details and clarity at the moment, those involved need to proceed with caution - and perhaps ask which is truly the last, best hope for Hyflux' s wearied stakeholders, after all this time.
 
To recap: Hyflux' s judicial managers Borrelli Walsh (BW) said in a bourse filing on June 4 that they had filed an application with the court to wind up the water treatment company.
 
This was after having been granted an extension for their terms of office until July 14 to determine whether a potential restructuring of the group was possible.
 
Hyflux had been placed under judicial management in November, when there were three offers on the table, from US-based Strategic Growth Investments (SGI), Middle Eastern utility firm Utico, and Pison.
 
By January, BW said they were in talks with 17 potential investors, which had included SGI, Spain-based FCC Aqualia and Utico.
 
In May, BW said they had received seven bids: one bid for an investment in the entire group and six bids for specific assets of the group, which can be facilitated through a winding-up of the group.
 
But on June 4, BW said negotiations with the investor for an investment in the entire Hyflux Group were unsuccessful, and that " a restructuring is not possible" . They added that " the continuation of the judicial management of the company is no longer necessary" and that the remaining value of Hyflux would be " best realised in a liquidation" .
 
But then, a surprise seemingly 11th-hour rescue bid emerged: Mr Menezes told The Business Times on June 6 that he has reached out to BW with a deal, though he declined to share the exact details.
 
But he did say that unsecured senior creditors would receive five cents on the dollar, while retail investors in Hyflux' s preference shares and perpetual securities (PnP) would receive four cents.
 
He said he has agreed to place S$50 million of his personal shares in Utico in escrow to guarantee the deal, and that this would be followed by S$50 million in cash once an agreement has been signed.
 
He said that he had told BW to " save the company and make it equitable" and that " liquidation should be the last option" .
 
BW declined to comment on this when they were contacted by BT.
 
Until we hear otherwise, Mr Menezes' s offer would appear to be Hyflux' s last stab at the possibility of getting restructured and becoming equitable, but is it Hyflux' s best hope? The question would be most pertinent to Hyflux' s PnP holders, whose fortunes differ the most, depending on whether the company is liquidated or rescued.
 
In a liquidation, Hyflux' s PnP holders rank below all other creditors of the company in terms of distributions, but above holders of its ordinary shares and the expectation is that PnP holders would potentially receive a lot less if Hyflux were wound up than if it were to be rescued.
 
But there are other considerations at stake.
 
One, it is unclear if Mr Menezes' s offer is too late. The Utico CEO himself said: " The judicial managers might not accept my offer as they announced investor talks failed" .
 
Before making their winding-up application, BW had gone through several rounds of negotiations with numerous bidders and very likely believed that they had exhausted all the credible options before them.
 
Two, it' s not exactly clear what Mr Menezes' s offer entails - for example, would Hyflux' s creditors and PnP holders receive Utico shares, cash or a combination of both? And when? Are there conditions that need to be fulfilled before the various aspects of the offer are realised?
 
Without further clarity, it is difficult to determine if this proposal would offer Hyflux a realistic chance at being restructured and be more appealing to the company' s various stakeholders than a liquidation at this point.
 
Some would argue that, despite the distinct possibility of Hyflux' s PnP holders receiving a smaller distribution from a liquidation than from a rescue deal, given the long-drawn out debt-restructuring efforts that Hyflux has been through, even a tiny amount - coupled with the knowledge that this would be the end of the saga - would be preferable to a further extension of the less-than-hopeful journey it has been so far.
 
A couple of PnP holders BT spoke to said that they have more or less written off their not-inconsequential investments in Hyflux, and have not been holding out for a distribution any amount, one said, would be a " bonus" in the current situation.
 
Hyflux' s shares have been suspended from trading since May 2018, and its debt-restructuring efforts have gone on for just as long - and it has been a journey fraught with controversy along the way.
 
It also remains unclear just how much cash the company holds Bloomberg had in March cited sources saying that Hyflux had S$18.4 million in cash, as of Jan 31 - but BW declined to comment on this. The one thing that' s for sure is that this is an amount that will continue to decrease as judicial management and restructuring efforts go on.
 
And so, while it' s understandable that some would cheer the news of a fresh white knight for the company, at a time when all hope seems to have been lost, a lot more information about this new rescue offer is needed before one can decide which option is truly Hyflux' s last, best hope.
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Joelton
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09-Jun-2021 09:52
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Hyflux' s liquidation a sad day for corporate Singapore
THE judicial managers of Hyflux have applied for the water treatment company to be liquidated. Their success would mark an end to one of the most long drawn out, controversial and unfortunate chapters in Singapore' s corporate history.
 
The case extends more than three years - back to May 2018 when the company first announced it was in trouble and applied for court protection to restructure its debts.
 
The court granted several debt moratorium extensions, often at the eleventh hour. After almost three years however, even that patience ran out.
 
In October 2020, Justice Aedit Abdullah granted one last extension but observed that " suspicion is building up considerably whether there is some sort of gamesmanship going on here" .
 
Hard questions have rightly been asked about Tuaspring, the billion-dollar integrated water and power project that was the centrepiece of Hyflux' s ill-fated diversification into electricity production.
 
Was proper due diligence performed? Was an exhaustive risk assessment conducted? How many directors voted in favour or against the move? Were investors adequately informed of the risks?
 
Answers to these and many other similar questions may be forthcoming once an official probe, launched in June 2020, is completed.
 
Unfortunately, some 50,000 retail investors are affected and will probably lose their entire investment.
 
Included in this figure are 34,000 preference and perpetual (PnP) holders whose S$900 million was used to partially pay for Tuaspring.
 
Adding to the pain suffered by these investors, large sums have been paid to various advisers who promised but failed to secure white knights for Hyflux.
 
While such supposed saviours did emerge, none were able to table a viable and equitable restructuring plan.
 
It is disappointing that the company is to be wound up and PnP holders are unlikely to recoup anything.
 
It is hoped, however, that the Hyflux saga will serve as a lesson for directors who fail to observe their responsibility - and they can be sure that they will be hauled to accountability.
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ichiban
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09-Jun-2021 09:34
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In all cases,even the criminals are brought to justice by capital punishment or jail term, the innocents will not get their loved ones or money back. it is so sad that most do not realise we cannot bring anything with us when we die but only the good /evil deeds done...karma. i hope your colleague will get back his blessings /money in some other form.... definitelymuch wiser
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ckmpd1
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09-Jun-2021 09:33
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No share is totally safe.  SIA is insolvent and has no more money but kept alive by the govt.   
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Inferno
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09-Jun-2021 09:20
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Sad to hear this. Reminds me of my company parcel delivery old uncle who put his total savings of 400k into Chartered Semicon.
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