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sgng123
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07-Aug-2016 10:42     
 
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This meant pension fund got 6 months to slowly average dollar sell down their holding, now they can let go meaning no more support level for dbs. Unless sg gov gona do qe to artificially support stock market. It time to correct and more downside to come till market become attractive again for bargain hunter which well need to drop another 20% to match sg < 2% GDP growth.

sg_investor      ( Date: 07-Aug-2016 10:31) Posted:



Googled " Moody' s downgrades ratings outlook for Singapore banks to negative" and found Moody downgraded on March 30, April 30, and June 30. 

Does it mean the Moody' s downgrade failed twice? 

ehclim      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 23:12) Posted:



No doubt but I will keep accumulating slowly and ready to collect interim dividends. I think it will not be worse than OCBC of 18 cents. I expect about 25 cents interim dividends.


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07-Aug-2016 10:31     
 
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Googled " Moody' s downgrades ratings outlook for Singapore banks to negative" and found Moody downgraded on March 30, April 30, and June 30. 

Does it mean the Moody' s downgrade failed twice? 

ehclim      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 23:12) Posted:



No doubt but I will keep accumulating slowly and ready to collect interim dividends. I think it will not be worse than OCBC of 18 cents. I expect about 25 cents interim dividends.

investshare      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 22:01) Posted:

Yes, and they are now coming back saying "see, I already told you so"
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06-Aug-2016 23:12     
 
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No doubt but I will keep accumulating slowly and ready to collect interim dividends. I think it will not be worse than OCBC of 18 cents. I expect about 25 cents interim dividends.

investshare      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 22:01) Posted:

Yes, and they are now coming back saying "see, I already told you so".

ehclim      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 21:29) Posted:

Moody' s downgrades ratings outlook for Singapore banks to negative

It expects challenging environment to pressure asset quality and profitability, but adds that the banks have strong capital and provisioning buffers.



This news was on The Business Times on 1st April, 2016.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/banking-finance/moodys-downgrades-ratings-outlook-for-singapore-banks-to-negative-0


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06-Aug-2016 22:01     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Yes, and they are now coming back saying "see, I already told you so".

ehclim      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 21:29) Posted:

Moody' s downgrades ratings outlook for Singapore banks to negative

It expects challenging environment to pressure asset quality and profitability, but adds that the banks have strong capital and provisioning buffers.



This news was on The Business Times on 1st April, 2016.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/banking-finance/moodys-downgrades-ratings-outlook-for-singapore-banks-to-negative-0

investshare      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 20:24) Posted:

I am very sure it will get downgraded. But I am not sure about the share price direction. So I start buy when I think price is fair
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06-Aug-2016 22:00     
 
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Investshare....I am glad that you can stay rational and saw the value of a blue Singapore chip. 
  ​ Yes, we might never catch the bottom but when there is value it would be worth accumulating . Good Luck

investshare      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 19:46) Posted:

While I think DBS made a mistake, I think the market punishment is quite sufficient by now. The market cap is now $4b below book value, add that with the about $1b est quarter profit, a total of $5b! This is equivalent to price in half of the $20b O&G exposure will default, and that DBS can recover 50% from those default. Barring no other surprise, I think the price now is quite fair. Those who want more safety margin can wait. I am vested at $14.86.

famouspinky      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 18:50) Posted:

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Moody' s downgrades ratings outlook for Singapore banks to negative

It expects challenging environment to pressure asset quality and profitability, but adds that the banks have strong capital and provisioning buffers.



This news was on The Business Times on 1st April, 2016.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/banking-finance/moodys-downgrades-ratings-outlook-for-singapore-banks-to-negative-0

investshare      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 20:24) Posted:

I am very sure it will get downgraded. But I am not sure about the share price direction. So I start buy when I think price is fair.

famouspinky      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 19:56) Posted:

Won't be surprised this guy will get downgraded.
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06-Aug-2016 21:17     
 
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So easy to spot the shorts!! LOL
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investshare
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06-Aug-2016 20:24     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I am very sure it will get downgraded. But I am not sure about the share price direction. So I start buy when I think price is fair.

famouspinky      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 19:56) Posted:

Won't be surprised this guy will get downgraded.

famouspinky      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 19:55) Posted:

Mkt cap, future profits, bad debt provisions are different aspects. Share px, fair or not, mkt don't thk so
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 Alert Admin 		Won't be surprised this guy will get downgraded.

famouspinky      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 19:55) Posted:

Mkt cap, future profits, bad debt provisions are different aspects. Share px, fair or not, mkt don't thk so.

investshare      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 19:46) Posted:

While I think DBS made a mistake, I think the market punishment is quite sufficient by now. The market cap is now $4b below book value, add that with the about $1b est quarter profit, a total of $5b! This is equivalent to price in half of the $20b O&G exposure will default, and that DBS can recover 50% from those default. Barring no other surprise, I think the price now is quite fair. Those who want more safety margin can wait. I am vested at $14.86
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 Alert Admin 		Mkt cap, future profits, bad debt provisions are different aspects. Share px, fair or not, mkt don't thk so.

investshare      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 19:46) Posted:

While I think DBS made a mistake, I think the market punishment is quite sufficient by now. The market cap is now $4b below book value, add that with the about $1b est quarter profit, a total of $5b! This is equivalent to price in half of the $20b O&G exposure will default, and that DBS can recover 50% from those default. Barring no other surprise, I think the price now is quite fair. Those who want more safety margin can wait. I am vested at $14.86.

famouspinky      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 18:50) Posted:

Do not fall in love
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 Alert Admin 		While I think DBS made a mistake, I think the market punishment is quite sufficient by now. The market cap is now $4b below book value, add that with the about $1b est quarter profit, a total of $5b! This is equivalent to price in half of the $20b O&G exposure will default, and that DBS can recover 50% from those default. Barring no other surprise, I think the price now is quite fair. Those who want more safety margin can wait. I am vested at $14.86.

famouspinky      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 18:50) Posted:

Do not fall in love.

ehclim      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 15:41) Posted:



Agreed but on the contrary it provides opportunity for long term investors to buy a blue chip banking stock at steep discount. I have vested interest.


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06-Aug-2016 18:50     
 
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ehclim      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 15:41) Posted:



Agreed but on the contrary it provides opportunity for long term investors to buy a blue chip banking stock at steep discount. I have vested interest.

sgng123      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 14:40) Posted:



Next monday morning dbs result out plus press conference on swiber drama if dbs issue profit warning on future quarters due to provision for bad debt on it $17B exposure, prepare to see a bloody sti week, everything got sold off as bb run for the hill. DBS got very high transparency so hehe they would be kiasu and prepared for the worst ahead.


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06-Aug-2016 18:44     
 
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Do it slowly, gradually and no hurry under such poor market sentiment. Do not swallow too much at one go. You will get choke. :)

Just4win      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 18:07) Posted:



Must make sure I can abroad the ship.. But if it drops too much, I will be worried !

ehclim      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 15:41) Posted:



Agreed but on the contrary it provides opportunity for long term investors to buy a blue chip banking stock at steep discount. I have vested interest.


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06-Aug-2016 18:39     
 
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yyhwin      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 17:05) Posted:

Tuesday is a holiday. Sell sell before regret. :)
Sell on strength. :)

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Hei123
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06-Aug-2016 18:13     
 
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I wonder how much more DBS will provide for provision for bad debts.

Will be interesting. 

 
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06-Aug-2016 18:07     
 
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Must make sure I can abroad the ship.. But if it drops too much, I will be worried !

ehclim      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 15:41) Posted:



Agreed but on the contrary it provides opportunity for long term investors to buy a blue chip banking stock at steep discount. I have vested interest.

sgng123      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 14:40) Posted:



Next monday morning dbs result out plus press conference on swiber drama if dbs issue profit warning on future quarters due to provision for bad debt on it $17B exposure, prepare to see a bloody sti week, everything got sold off as bb run for the hill. DBS got very high transparency so hehe they would be kiasu and prepared for the worst ahead.


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06-Aug-2016 17:41     
 
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where is the strength? 

 

yyhwin      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 17:05) Posted:

Tuesday is a holiday. Sell sell before regret. :)
Sell on strength. :)

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sgng123
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06-Aug-2016 17:26     
 
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Short week most likely little movement but banks might take hit if dbs result project a worse profit margin due to debt provision. Now time not right to jump in yet as the ghost just start getting out of hell, they on party roll and out to demolish sgx lol. Hope after NDP, we don see massive correction lot of uncles ass would be burnt as banks and offshore counters fav in 2012 till 2014.
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 Alert Admin 		Tuesday is a holiday. Sell sell before regret. :)
Sell on strength. :)
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06-Aug-2016 16:55     
 
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Like they way Noble trap shortists?   More show to see next monday.  

Wind22i      ( Date: 06-Aug-2016 14:28) Posted:

Next week rebound .. They need to trap all the shortist first..
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