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jazzietan Veteran	17-Feb-2016 22:32        jazzietan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	All the best to us earlybird14      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 22:15) Posted: Bought a lot between 26-31. Have to stop loading, otherwise, the ratio of investment become inbalance. jazzietan      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 20:11) Posted: Wah, thot u buy abit when oil at $30...waiting buy more when it below $25
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earlybird14 Supreme	17-Feb-2016 22:19        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Inventory down -0.3 mio last week due to 1.1mio less import. This week may be drop continually. Oil price too low at wti market, so nobody want to import to US or below their cost, especially from canada oil sand. Lucky03      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 21:46) Posted: Maybe there is expectation that US crude production will drop tonight Insead of increase ? papayaface      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 21:04) Posted: Wah, crude and Dow futures cheong tonight. Watch the market fly. Good luck
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earlybird14 Supreme	17-Feb-2016 22:15        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bought a lot between 26-31. Have to stop loading, otherwise, the ratio of investment become inbalance. jazzietan      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 20:11) Posted: Wah, thot u buy abit when oil at $30...waiting buy more when it below $25? earlybird14      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 19:00) Posted: I am in a lot liao, patiently waiting loh. For sure after march to april, oil price will be back to 50. Now can only see all these wayang and speculation to shake shake at bottom. 1 day 5-7% up and down look a lot, but it is still within 1-2 dollar range. Compared to 110 to 30, 80 dollar drop, this is just a shaking show done by all these bankers. Patient to wait lah
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Lucky03 Elite	17-Feb-2016 21:46        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Maybe there is expectation that US crude production will drop tonight Insead of increase ? papayaface      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 21:04) Posted: Wah, crude and Dow futures cheong tonight. Watch the market fly. Good luck
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papayaface Supreme	17-Feb-2016 21:04        papayaface About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "This is the best time to enter....when everythings uncertain"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wah, crude and Dow futures cheong tonight. Watch the market fly. Good luck
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makdatok Supreme	17-Feb-2016 20:46        makdatok About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So long theres trace of news on saudi,all other news r secondary..unless saudi news idling collecting dust,bull will be on standby...even if theres 100mio global surplas,if saudi lay out its bullish intention,other news will be render.."irrelevent"..eheeem
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jazzietan Veteran	17-Feb-2016 20:11        jazzietan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wah, thot u buy abit when oil at $30...waiting buy more when it below $25? earlybird14      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 19:00) Posted: I am in a lot liao, patiently waiting loh. For sure after march to april, oil price will be back to 50. Now can only see all these wayang and speculation to shake shake at bottom. 1 day 5-7% up and down look a lot, but it is still within 1-2 dollar range. Compared to 110 to 30, 80 dollar drop, this is just a shaking show done by all these bankers. Patient to wait lah. jazzietan      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:45) Posted: U both very hd leh. Read alr like morale booster, kena steroid jabs. Wish u all are the oil shiek
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benjidog Supreme	17-Feb-2016 19:42        benjidog About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Meeting with Iran just started as at now Wednesday. See also http://www.reuters.com/article/us-oil-meeting-idUSKCN0VO2FJ
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earlybird14 Supreme	17-Feb-2016 19:00        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am in a lot liao, patiently waiting loh. For sure after march to april, oil price will be back to 50. Now can only see all these wayang and speculation to shake shake at bottom. 1 day 5-7% up and down look a lot, but it is still within 1-2 dollar range. Compared to 110 to 30, 80 dollar drop, this is just a shaking show done by all these bankers. Patient to wait lah. jazzietan      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:45) Posted: U both very hd leh. Read alr like morale booster, kena steroid jabs. Wish u all are the oil shieks earlybird14      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:41) Posted: 40mio is not a lot. Us has 500mio and world day production is 95mio. So iran can keep these in their tank and agree on freeze plan to let oil price surge and slowly sell it away. Oil price at this level 30, is not really reflect demand or supply. It is a pure market sentiment to beat and kill bankers speculation of oil below 20. So long as opec members and russia give market some confident oil price will be supported to and move up at least to above 40-50. Then remove this crisis, next to talk about how to work together to control production and sell at good price. What is the point sell 500k bpd more at 30 dollar, if you can earn more by selling the 2mio bpd at 50-60 which can earn even more. Nobody is stupid, these oil coys are just stubborn. But working together is a sign they have pay for their stubborn. Market will react positively if iran join the freeze
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sheerluck Supreme	17-Feb-2016 18:54        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SA understand this so do you.  haha! earlybird14      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:34) Posted: They won't cut or can say they are not able to cut. How you are able to ask a dying Company not to produce oil to pay interest? They don't pump no money have to declare bankruptcy. So shale oil or oil sand can only be killed cannot be cut. sriramanv      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:28) Posted: true, they no need to listen anyone...but if they dont cut, they die faster...they have to choose to die or cut production to increase price... they cannot go like pump maximum to get max $$$ which will make them die...if the prices increase, their margin will go up and can continue getting bank support...
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jazzietan Veteran	17-Feb-2016 18:45        jazzietan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	U both very hd leh. Read alr like morale booster, kena steroid jabs. Wish u all are the oil shieks earlybird14      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:41) Posted: 40mio is not a lot. Us has 500mio and world day production is 95mio. So iran can keep these in their tank and agree on freeze plan to let oil price surge and slowly sell it away. Oil price at this level 30, is not really reflect demand or supply. It is a pure market sentiment to beat and kill bankers speculation of oil below 20. So long as opec members and russia give market some confident oil price will be supported to and move up at least to above 40-50. Then remove this crisis, next to talk about how to work together to control production and sell at good price. What is the point sell 500k bpd more at 30 dollar, if you can earn more by selling the 2mio bpd at 50-60 which can earn even more. Nobody is stupid, these oil coys are just stubborn. But working together is a sign they have pay for their stubborn. Market will react positively if iran join the freeze. yNotcool      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:33) Posted: at the initial stage they dont need investment to increase export. they just need to export those 40m barrels stored in bunker or offshore storage. these numbers are currently building up (shippment to europe) and will be reflected only in march onwards. Shale oil is dying but EIA reporting is skewed. they are over estimating their production while increasing import in order to create the over storage issue (production stabilizing impression) but in actual fact they are buying in lots and lots of oil   to store as oil is at damn cheap price. shale is goner. but how long how it take for this fact to surface? a coordinated cut i think it unlikely in these two months. no reason for them to do so for temporary gain. not forgeting march economical indicators for many countries are historical proven to be one of the lowest if not the lowest in any year. one final pain
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earlybird14 Supreme	17-Feb-2016 18:41        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	40mio is not a lot. Us has 500mio and world day production is 95mio. So iran can keep these in their tank and agree on freeze plan to let oil price surge and slowly sell it away. Oil price at this level 30, is not really reflect demand or supply. It is a pure market sentiment to beat and kill bankers speculation of oil below 20. So long as opec members and russia give market some confident oil price will be supported to and move up at least to above 40-50. Then remove this crisis, next to talk about how to work together to control production and sell at good price. What is the point sell 500k bpd more at 30 dollar, if you can earn more by selling the 2mio bpd at 50-60 which can earn even more. Nobody is stupid, these oil coys are just stubborn. But working together is a sign they have pay for their stubborn. Market will react positively if iran join the freeze. yNotcool      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:33) Posted: at the initial stage they dont need investment to increase export. they just need to export those 40m barrels stored in bunker or offshore storage. these numbers are currently building up (shippment to europe) and will be reflected only in march onwards. Shale oil is dying but EIA reporting is skewed. they are over estimating their production while increasing import in order to create the over storage issue (production stabilizing impression) but in actual fact they are buying in lots and lots of oil   to store as oil is at damn cheap price. shale is goner. but how long how it take for this fact to surface? a coordinated cut i think it unlikely in these two months. no reason for them to do so for temporary gain. not forgeting march economical indicators for many countries are historical proven to be one of the lowest if not the lowest in any year. one final pain  earlybird14      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:21) Posted: Without investment, iran can only boost 500k bpd more. Now, who will invest at iran? Sanctions can come in anytime so long as they are funny, who invest, who has to think twice. Now who has money, everywhere are cheat oil assets can be taken over. Why iran. Market over react iran sanctions impact to oil output
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earlybird14 Supreme	17-Feb-2016 18:34        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	They won't cut or can say they are not able to cut. How you are able to ask a dying Company not to produce oil to pay interest? They don't pump no money have to declare bankruptcy. So shale oil or oil sand can only be killed cannot be cut. sriramanv      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:28) Posted: true, they no need to listen anyone...but if they dont cut, they die faster...they have to choose to die or cut production to increase price... they cannot go like pump maximum to get max $$$ which will make them die...if the prices increase, their margin will go up and can continue getting bank support... sheerluck      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:17) Posted: US shale coy are not stated-owned is the problem SA faced in orchesting a coordinated cut.  These producers need to listen to anyone except their own pocket.
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yNotcool Member	17-Feb-2016 18:33        yNotcool About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	at the initial stage they dont need investment to increase export. they just need to export those 40m barrels stored in bunker or offshore storage. these numbers are currently building up (shippment to europe) and will be reflected only in march onwards. Shale oil is dying but EIA reporting is skewed. they are over estimating their production while increasing import in order to create the over storage issue (production stabilizing impression) but in actual fact they are buying in lots and lots of oil   to store as oil is at damn cheap price. shale is goner. but how long how it take for this fact to surface? a coordinated cut i think it unlikely in these two months. no reason for them to do so for temporary gain. not forgeting march economical indicators for many countries are historical proven to be one of the lowest if not the lowest in any year. one final pain  earlybird14      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:21) Posted: Without investment, iran can only boost 500k bpd more. Now, who will invest at iran? Sanctions can come in anytime so long as they are funny, who invest, who has to think twice. Now who has money, everywhere are cheat oil assets can be taken over. Why iran. Market over react iran sanctions impact to oil output. jazzietan      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 14:33) Posted: Doom liao...iran shot it down
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sriramanv Master	17-Feb-2016 18:31        sriramanv About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Iran needs 10 or 20 billion investments..but as u said, there wont be many interested to invest there due to the stability of iran etc., Iran can only make noise to increase production to certain extent.. Still SA and Russia are the main players and they have come to the table. So there must be some hidden agenda...i strongly feel the oill will go to 50-60$ range this year... earlybird14      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:21) Posted: Without investment, iran can only boost 500k bpd more. Now, who will invest at iran? Sanctions can come in anytime so long as they are funny, who invest, who has to think twice. Now who has money, everywhere are cheat oil assets can be taken over. Why iran. Market over react iran sanctions impact to oil output. jazzietan      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 14:33) Posted: Doom liao...iran shot it down
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earlybird14 Supreme	17-Feb-2016 18:29        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Even 40, oil sand and shale oil still making loss with is about 8mio bpd production rate, not added high cost brazil 2.2mio bpd deep water drilling. Market will know what to do. earlybird14      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:27) Posted: If iran agree, oil can be back to 40 easily. bishan22      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:19) Posted: Wayang again for WTI to shoot back and fall again....   Qatar&rsquo s energy minister and current OPEC President Mohammed al-Sada is heading to Tehran Wednesday to discuss a plan to cap crude production with ministers from Iran, Venezuela and Iraq, people familiar with the matter said. The meeting was scheduled to start at 2 p.m. local time in Tehran, or 5:30 a.m. Eastern Time, and the president of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries is hopeful that Iran will agree to join a coordinated move by OPEC and producers from outside the group to freeze their production at the January levels, the people said.
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sriramanv Master	17-Feb-2016 18:28        sriramanv About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	true, they no need to listen anyone...but if they dont cut, they die faster...they have to choose to die or cut production to increase price... they cannot go like pump maximum to get max $$$ which will make them die...if the prices increase, their margin will go up and can continue getting bank support... sheerluck      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:17) Posted: US shale coy are not stated-owned is the problem SA faced in orchesting a coordinated cut.  These producers need to listen to anyone except their own pocket. sriramanv      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:09) Posted: This is definitely a game change... The next i expect the US producers to come to some agreement to cut the shale production to make the price to go higher. If this happens, SA and Russia will start getting their market share back...
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jazzietan Veteran	17-Feb-2016 18:27        jazzietan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	U hv a pt on iran. Lets see how they play this game and tbeir own. At least for these 2-3 days oil price stabilize earlybird14      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:21) Posted: Without investment, iran can only boost 500k bpd more. Now, who will invest at iran? Sanctions can come in anytime so long as they are funny, who invest, who has to think twice. Now who has money, everywhere are cheat oil assets can be taken over. Why iran. Market over react iran sanctions impact to oil output. jazzietan      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 14:33) Posted: Doom liao...iran shot it down
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earlybird14 Supreme	17-Feb-2016 18:27        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If iran agree, oil can be back to 40 easily. bishan22      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 18:19) Posted: Wayang again for WTI to shoot back and fall again....   Qatar&rsquo s energy minister and current OPEC President Mohammed al-Sada is heading to Tehran Wednesday to discuss a plan to cap crude production with ministers from Iran, Venezuela and Iraq, people familiar with the matter said. The meeting was scheduled to start at 2 p.m. local time in Tehran, or 5:30 a.m. Eastern Time, and the president of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries is hopeful that Iran will agree to join a coordinated move by OPEC and producers from outside the group to freeze their production at the January levels, the people said.
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earlybird14 Supreme	17-Feb-2016 18:21        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Without investment, iran can only boost 500k bpd more. Now, who will invest at iran? Sanctions can come in anytime so long as they are funny, who invest, who has to think twice. Now who has money, everywhere are cheat oil assets can be taken over. Why iran. Market over react iran sanctions impact to oil output. jazzietan      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 14:33) Posted: Doom liao...iran shot it down jazzietan      ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 14:17) Posted: Later boom or doom......all eyes on iran
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