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runaway Senior	05-Mar-2019 11:17        runaway About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hoping for 80/81? The sellers who sold to you are also hoping -  to buy back at 75/76 or lower.
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Starwar88 Supreme	05-Mar-2019 10:34        Starwar88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Kana 78. Now just need to hold and wait for next push up. Hopefully soon, to unload at 80/81. Starwar88      ( Date: 05-Mar-2019 09:13) Posted: Queuing to buy at 78. See can get or not.
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Starwar88 Supreme	05-Mar-2019 09:13        Starwar88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Queuing to buy at 78. See can get or not.
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runaway Senior	05-Mar-2019 08:31        runaway About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	自 古 以 来 ， 物 以 希 为 贵 。 For now, it is 26 billion shares, soon it will be 45 billion when the warrants are fully exercised. It is an insane number that is beyond comprehension. The smallest tradable denomination on SGX now is $0.001. It may need to add additional zero after the decimal in the future.
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Lugx76@ Member	04-Mar-2019 18:38        Lugx76@ About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Shares consolidation isn't an issue. Take Rmg for eg. Today last traded 1.09, outstanding shares 1.8 billion. Do a share split 1:14 and we get 25 billion outstanding shares and price per share 0.078. is it not the same? Many are obsessed over the large share capital that Thomson medical has.. why ah?? You may ask about BW, PW. Yes that will dilute shares further but that is an exercise to acquire capitall for the expansion of the company which will add earnings to each share....eventually. boyboy61      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 17:10) Posted: Doubt they will push the share above exercise price.. Let the warramts lapsed, then push up the share.  Be patient.  Hopefully, RMG in the making but too many shares, consolidation next? Lugx76@      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 14:20) Posted: Ya correct. He can either do that or place out his own shares to buyer now. They are in 'advanced talks with US, China, Indonesia. He can do what he does best and sell 3.7 billion at 0.095 (average of the BW and PW) . This way he can exercise bw and still remain controlling shareholder 51% if all warrants are presumably exercised.
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boyboy61 Supreme	04-Mar-2019 17:10        boyboy61 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Doubt they will push the share above exercise price.. Let the warramts lapsed, then push up the share.  Be patient.  Hopefully, RMG in the making but too many shares, consolidation next? Lugx76@      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 14:20) Posted: Ya correct. He can either do that or place out his own shares to buyer now. They are in 'advanced talks with US, China, Indonesia. He can do what he does best and sell 3.7 billion at 0.095 (average of the BW and PW) . This way he can exercise bw and still remain controlling shareholder 51% if all warrants are presumably exercised.. Investor8      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 12:45) Posted: Let' s do the math.  There are currently about 9.5b bonus warrants (BW) issued, of which 3.7b are supposedly in PL' s hands.  So, presumably, there is a balance of about 5.8b not in his hands.  If this 5.8b fully exercises the BW, total TM shares would balloon to about 31.8b and 90% of this would be 28.62b.  Theoretically, if PL converts his 3.7b BW in full, his TM shareholding would increase from about 23.1b to 26.8b and his shareholding % actually drops from 88.9% to about 84.3%.  At the conversion price of $0.08, PL will have to fork out about $296 million to convert these BW in full.  Correct me if I am wrong
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Lugx76@ Member	04-Mar-2019 14:20        Lugx76@ About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ya correct. He can either do that or place out his own shares to buyer now. They are in 'advanced talks with US, China, Indonesia. He can do what he does best and sell 3.7 billion at 0.095 (average of the BW and PW) . This way he can exercise bw and still remain controlling shareholder 51% if all warrants are presumably exercised.. Investor8      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 12:45) Posted: Let' s do the math.  There are currently about 9.5b bonus warrants (BW) issued, of which 3.7b are supposedly in PL' s hands.  So, presumably, there is a balance of about 5.8b not in his hands.  If this 5.8b fully exercises the BW, total TM shares would balloon to about 31.8b and 90% of this would be 28.62b.  Theoretically, if PL converts his 3.7b BW in full, his TM shareholding would increase from about 23.1b to 26.8b and his shareholding % actually drops from 88.9% to about 84.3%.  At the conversion price of $0.08, PL will have to fork out about $296 million to convert these BW in full.  Correct me if I am wrong. Lugx76@      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 11:44) Posted: Oic thx for the clarification. So if he does intend to convert the warrants he has to wait till other warrantholders convert. Because f he converts the warrants now, he will contravene sgx ruling on the shareholding part.
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trademaster Supreme	04-Mar-2019 13:38        trademaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If most people give up and dont exercise, maybe they have to push up price high high to get people to exercise. This counter likes to chiong when everyone give up hope ysh2006      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 13:13) Posted: They can choose to lapse without exercise lah... get so many TM shares for what exerise price plus purchased price approx 8.2c.....piggy wrt 12c . hotelgrand      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 10:24) Posted: no buyers haha..many force to convert liao esp those who bgt warrants at 5cts or mor
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ysh2006 Supreme	04-Mar-2019 13:13        ysh2006 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	They can choose to lapse without exercise lah... get so many TM shares for what exerise price plus purchased price approx 8.2c.....piggy wrt 12c . hotelgrand      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 10:24) Posted: no buyers haha..many force to convert liao esp those who bgt warrants at 5cts or more huathuat88888      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 10:00) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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trademaster Supreme	04-Mar-2019 13:02        trademaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree.  Invisible hand will support (collect) price at 79. After they get enough conversion of warrants, and after most people sell their mother shares at 78/79, then price will surge. But then again, expect the unexpected. Investor8      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 10:07) Posted: My gut feel - TM price will trade within the price range of $0.078/$0.079 and $0.079/$0.080 so as to " force" bonus warrant holders to convert.  For bonus warrant holders who want to exercise and get the PW, they may sell the TM mother shares after conversion and keep the PW (lower holding cost). So there is a group of holders that will be on the sidelines unloading the shares at this level. No reason for BBs to push up TM share price for this group to unload.  If they can collect at lower price, why not?  I think any significant price action will likely come very close to the end of the bonus warrant trading period. If bonus warrant holders still did not sell their warrants by trading halt date and TM share price is above $0.08 by then, many will find it worthwhile to exercise. That is how TM will benefit from the cash inflow.  PL has a technical issue concerning his bonus warrants.  A rough calculation shows that he can only exercise about 8% of his bonus warrants if he is required to stay below the 90% shareholding threshhold.  So, what does he plan to do with his balance 3.4 billion bonus warrants?  If I were PL, I will not let it lapse worthless.  I will definitely find a way to monetise these bonus warrants.  Even at $0.001 per warrant, his 3.4 billion warrants is worth $3.4 million. Go figure! huathuat88888      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 09:40) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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Investor8 Master	04-Mar-2019 12:45        Investor8 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Let' s do the math.  There are currently about 9.5b bonus warrants (BW) issued, of which 3.7b are supposedly in PL' s hands.  So, presumably, there is a balance of about 5.8b not in his hands.  If this 5.8b fully exercises the BW, total TM shares would balloon to about 31.8b and 90% of this would be 28.62b.  Theoretically, if PL converts his 3.7b BW in full, his TM shareholding would increase from about 23.1b to 26.8b and his shareholding % actually drops from 88.9% to about 84.3%.  At the conversion price of $0.08, PL will have to fork out about $296 million to convert these BW in full.  Correct me if I am wrong. Lugx76@      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 11:44) Posted: Oic thx for the clarification. So if he does intend to convert the warrants he has to wait till other warrantholders convert. Because f he converts the warrants now, he will contravene sgx ruling on the shareholding part. Investor8      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 11:11) Posted: Vendor is PL and related parties. New Rowsley shares issued to acquire his assets not entitled to bonus warrants. But he was holding 1.8 billion+ Rowsley shares b4 the takeover. So these shares entitled to 2 bonus warrants each. That's why he was issued with about 3.7 billion bonus warrants.
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easywin Supreme	04-Mar-2019 12:44        easywin About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Is that wise to invest for long with the price range between 079 t0 080? who is buying with no benefit  and many uncertainties?
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runaway Senior	04-Mar-2019 12:33        runaway About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	人 不 为 己 天 诛 地 灭 。 这 是 经 过 精 心 设 计 的 acquisition. 你 说 是 为 了 你 的 钱 包 吗 ？
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Lugx76@ Member	04-Mar-2019 11:44        Lugx76@ About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oic thx for the clarification. So if he does intend to convert the warrants he has to wait till other warrantholders convert. Because f he converts the warrants now, he will contravene sgx ruling on the shareholding part. Investor8      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 11:11) Posted: Vendor is PL and related parties. New Rowsley shares issued to acquire his assets not entitled to bonus warrants. But he was holding 1.8 billion+ Rowsley shares b4 the takeover. So these shares entitled to 2 bonus warrants each. That's why he was issued with about 3.7 billion bonus warrants. Lugx76@      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 10:28) Posted: I read the circular to shareholders. The vendor is not entitled to bonus warrants. Is the vendor PL?
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Investor8 Master	04-Mar-2019 11:11        Investor8 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Vendor is PL and related parties. New Rowsley shares issued to acquire his assets not entitled to bonus warrants. But he was holding 1.8 billion+ Rowsley shares b4 the takeover. So these shares entitled to 2 bonus warrants each. That's why he was issued with about 3.7 billion bonus warrants. Lugx76@      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 10:28) Posted: I read the circular to shareholders. The vendor is not entitled to bonus warrants. Is the vendor PL? Investor8      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 10:07) Posted: My gut feel - TM price will trade within the price range of $0.078/$0.079 and $0.079/$0.080 so as to " force" bonus warrant holders to convert.  For bonus warrant holders who want to exercise and get the PW, they may sell the TM mother shares after conversion and keep the PW (lower holding cost). So there is a group of holders that will be on the sidelines unloading the shares at this level. No reason for BBs to push up TM share price for this group to unload.  If they can collect at lower price, why not?  I think any significant price action will likely come very close to the end of the bonus warrant trading period. If bonus warrant holders still did not sell their warrants by trading halt date and TM share price is above $0.08 by then, many will find it worthwhile to exercise. That is how TM will benefit from the cash inflow.  PL has a technical issue concerning his bonus warrants.  A rough calculation shows that he can only exercise about 8% of his bonus warrants if he is required to stay below the 90% shareholding threshhold.  So, what does he plan to do with his balance 3.4 billion bonus warrants?  If I were PL, I will not let it lapse worthless.  I will definitely find a way to monetise these bonus warrants.  Even at $0.001 per warrant, his 3.4 billion warrants is worth $3.4 million. Go figure
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lailai Elite	04-Mar-2019 10:52        lailai About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Think there is too much hype about warrants and piggies. FY18 earning is just $4mil with 26,000mil shares, or $0.0001 ps. Just imagine, what will be the eps when more warr and piggies can convert? huathuat88888      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 10:39) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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Lugx76@ Member	04-Mar-2019 10:28        Lugx76@ About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I read the circular to shareholders. The vendor is not entitled to bonus warrants. Is the vendor PL? Investor8      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 10:07) Posted: My gut feel - TM price will trade within the price range of $0.078/$0.079 and $0.079/$0.080 so as to " force" bonus warrant holders to convert.  For bonus warrant holders who want to exercise and get the PW, they may sell the TM mother shares after conversion and keep the PW (lower holding cost). So there is a group of holders that will be on the sidelines unloading the shares at this level. No reason for BBs to push up TM share price for this group to unload.  If they can collect at lower price, why not?  I think any significant price action will likely come very close to the end of the bonus warrant trading period. If bonus warrant holders still did not sell their warrants by trading halt date and TM share price is above $0.08 by then, many will find it worthwhile to exercise. That is how TM will benefit from the cash inflow.  PL has a technical issue concerning his bonus warrants.  A rough calculation shows that he can only exercise about 8% of his bonus warrants if he is required to stay below the 90% shareholding threshhold.  So, what does he plan to do with his balance 3.4 billion bonus warrants?  If I were PL, I will not let it lapse worthless.  I will definitely find a way to monetise these bonus warrants.  Even at $0.001 per warrant, his 3.4 billion warrants is worth $3.4 million. Go figure! huathuat88888      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 09:40) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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tonytan44 Supreme	04-Mar-2019 10:26        tonytan44 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	finally warrants flip down to seller 0.001. now want to sell also cannot liao tonytan44      ( Date: 26-Feb-2019 17:00) Posted: before it expire they just flip the warrant down to 0.001 sell boyboy61      ( Date: 26-Feb-2019 16:43) Posted: Probably after the warrant expires....
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hotelgrand Master	04-Mar-2019 10:24        hotelgrand About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	no buyers haha..many force to convert liao esp those who bgt warrants at 5cts or more huathuat88888      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 10:00) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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Investor8 Master	04-Mar-2019 10:07        Investor8 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	My gut feel - TM price will trade within the price range of $0.078/$0.079 and $0.079/$0.080 so as to " force" bonus warrant holders to convert.  For bonus warrant holders who want to exercise and get the PW, they may sell the TM mother shares after conversion and keep the PW (lower holding cost). So there is a group of holders that will be on the sidelines unloading the shares at this level. No reason for BBs to push up TM share price for this group to unload.  If they can collect at lower price, why not?  I think any significant price action will likely come very close to the end of the bonus warrant trading period. If bonus warrant holders still did not sell their warrants by trading halt date and TM share price is above $0.08 by then, many will find it worthwhile to exercise. That is how TM will benefit from the cash inflow.  PL has a technical issue concerning his bonus warrants.  A rough calculation shows that he can only exercise about 8% of his bonus warrants if he is required to stay below the 90% shareholding threshhold.  So, what does he plan to do with his balance 3.4 billion bonus warrants?  If I were PL, I will not let it lapse worthless.  I will definitely find a way to monetise these bonus warrants.  Even at $0.001 per warrant, his 3.4 billion warrants is worth $3.4 million. Go figure! huathuat88888      ( Date: 04-Mar-2019 09:40) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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