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famouspinky Supreme	10-Aug-2016 16:00        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dun believe, can try to long now famouspinky      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 15:58) Posted: Very high shorts number.lol WanSiTong      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 15:30) Posted: Waa... 8,527 shares transacted In Top volume list.
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famouspinky Supreme	10-Aug-2016 15:58        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Very high shorts number.lol WanSiTong      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 15:30) Posted: Waa... 8,527 shares transacted In Top volume list.
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famouspinky Supreme	10-Aug-2016 15:56        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Or Settle their big shit 1st famouspinky      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 15:50) Posted: Let dbs have a hard time 1st WanSiTong      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 15:30) Posted: Waa... 8,527 shares transacted In Top volume list.
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famouspinky Supreme	10-Aug-2016 15:50        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Let dbs have a hard time 1st WanSiTong      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 15:30) Posted: Waa... 8,527 shares transacted In Top volume list.
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WanSiTong Supreme	10-Aug-2016 15:30        WanSiTong About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Waa... 8,527 shares transacted In Top volume list.
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investshare Supreme	10-Aug-2016 13:27        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i see the CD sign now at sgx website.  Just4win      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 09:40) Posted: So fast? But has not seen the share trading at CD yet? Or I hv missed it? investshare      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 09:38) Posted: Ex date 15/8
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WanSiTong Supreme	10-Aug-2016 12:58        WanSiTong About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Singapore banks' credit profiles resilient despite oil-and-gas headwinds: Fitch SINGAPORE banks' second-quarter results showed pressure on profitability and asset quality, but credit profiles should remain resilient despite the weaker operating environment, Fitch Ratings said in a recent commentary. " We believe the banks have sufficiently strong loss-absorption buffers to withstand rising, cyclical global risks. Singapore banks enjoy steady funding and liquidity profiles and strong capitalisation," the credit rating agency said. " We expect a modest increase in the non-performing loan (NPL) ratios for the three local banking groups - DBS Group, United Overseas Bank and Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp." The weighted-average NPL ratio for these three banks remained low at 1.23 per cent at end-June 2016, compared with 1.11 per cent at end-March 2016 and 1.06 per cent at end-2015, it said. " DBS' s management believes its provisions for Swiber are conservative, and foresees some write-back in the future. Fitch feels the bank' s loan-loss reserve policies are generally sound," it said. " We expect the banking sector' s oil and gas loans to remain vulnerable amid weak sector fundamentals. However, we believe the rated Singapore banks are positioned well to meet rising credit risks from stresses in the sector because capital buffers are strong and underwriting procedures are disciplined. " " Nonetheless, we think the three local banks can face additional macroeconomic headwinds in light of their strong and liquid balance sheets, sound lending practices and adequate profitability. Loan-loss reserve cover was reasonably strong at a weighted average of 113.3 per cent at end- june 2016. " Read more...
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WanSiTong Supreme	10-Aug-2016 12:40        WanSiTong About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
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investshare Supreme	10-Aug-2016 12:23        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thank you. Same to you, good health is most important. The rest are good to have. famouspinky      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 12:19) Posted: Keep urselves sane and healthy. Good health is good wealth. famouspinky      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 12:16) Posted: Nobody knows what willhappen tomorrow. What will be, will be. Remember to send in feed back form frm SJ. SJ is super👍
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latebird2000 Member	10-Aug-2016 12:23        latebird2000 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyone still buying from morgan stanley or other BB ?
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famouspinky Supreme	10-Aug-2016 12:21        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What goes down may go down further. Do not fall in love with any stocks. WanSiTong      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 12:18) Posted: What Comes Down Must Go Up !     Sun233, thanks for sharing.  Just to reiterate/ highlight a few points:  DBS Group Holdings lost S $ 3.6 billion in market value in seven days from July 28 ..... With bank stocks priced near their cheapest since the depths of the global financial crisis, Nader Naeimi of AMP Capital Investors Ltd says it ' s time to buy, while Aberdeen' s Hugh Young says they ' ll prove resilient to any debt exposure. " The banks are strong and valuations are reasonable, backed by decent dividends,"   Generally, they ' re a buy. There will be other Swibers so it is a risk. If you wait until the problems are sorted, the prices would have moved. It' s not an easy call, but at these levels, a fair chunk of bad news is in the price. "   DBS is down almost 10 per cent this year and is trading at the lowest level since January 2013 relative to the MSCI Asia Pacific Index. The Singapore bank is valued at 0.9 times net assets, below the multiples for United Overseas Bank and Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp, data compiled by Bloomberg show. Shares of UOB have fallen 7.9 per cent in 2016 while OCBC has declined 3.5 per cent.     " Banks are a great buying opportunity at these levels," said Naeimi, Sydney-based head of dynamic markets at AMP Capital, which oversees about US $ 120 billion. " Most of the bad news is priced in."         sun233      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 07:49) Posted: Some fund managers sniff a bargain as debt panic hammers Singapore banks SINGAPORE (BLOOMBERG) - The recent drubbing in Singapore bank stocks is turning Southeast Asia' s biggest lenders into bargains for money managers including Aberdeen Asset Management. DBS Group Holdings lost S$3.6 billion in market value in seven days from July 28 when  its client Swiber Holdings Ltd signaled it was in financial trouble. DBS' s two smaller domestic rivals slid at least 5 per cent. With bank stocks priced near their cheapest since the depths of the global financial crisis, Nader Naeimi of AMP Capital Investors Ltd says it' s time to buy, while Aberdeen' s Hugh Young says they' ll prove resilient to any debt exposure. " The banks are strong and valuations are reasonable, backed by decent dividends," Mr Young, Singapore-based managing director at Aberdeen, which oversees about US$420 billion, said by e-mail. " Generally, they' re a buy. There will be other Swibers so it is a risk. If you wait until the problems are sorted, the prices would have moved. It' s not an easy call, but at these levels, a fair chunk of bad news is in the price." The fallout from  the energy-services firm' s troubles add to the struggles facing Singapore' s lenders as they navigate their exposure to  energy-related companies amid spending cuts by explorers and an economy estimated to expand at the slowest pace in seven years in 2016. That' s weighed on Singapore' s stocks market this year, the worst performer among major Southeast Asian peers after Malaysia, and the only country in the region where earnings are projected to shrink in the next 12 months. DBS is down almost 10 per cent this year and is trading at the lowest level since January 2013 relative to the MSCI Asia Pacific Index. The Singapore bank is valued at 0.9 times net assets, below the multiples for United Overseas Bank and Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp, data compiled by Bloomberg show. Shares of UOB have fallen 7.9 per cent in 2016 while OCBC has declined 3.5 per cent.     " Banks are a great buying opportunity at these levels," said  Naeimi,  Sydney-based head of dynamic markets at AMP Capital, which oversees about US$120 billion. " Most of the bad news is priced in." Swiber, facing about US$50.5 million of demands last month from various creditors, said July 29 that it' s seeking to operate under court supervision as it attempts to turn around its business. Two days earlier, it had filed a petition for liquidation, which was dropped following talks with lenders. Swiber' s woes are the latest example of the difficulties engulfing the oil industry since crude prices plunged more than 50 per cent in two years and forced explorers such as Royal Dutch Shell and Statoil ASA to cut spending. The rout in commodity shares and Singapore lenders dragged the benchmark Straits Times Index to 1.1 times book value, compared with 1.4 for the MSCI Asia Pacific Index. That' s the biggest discount since the financial crisis. Not everyone is rushing to buy bank shares just yet. " The defaults in the energy sector are just starting so it' s still too early to nibble," said Kar Tzen Chow, Kuala Lumpur-based fund manager at Affin Hwang Asset Management Bhd, which oversees about US$7.6 billion. " The discount reflects the fundamental outlook for Singapore, with global growth and external demand remaining weak." DBS said on Monday (Aug 8) that second-quarter profit declined 6 per cent as provisions for Swiber overshadowed gains in interest and fee income. The bank' s exposure to Swiber amounted to S$721 million, according to a presentation accompanying its results. Chng Sok Hui, DBS' s chief financial officer, said at the briefing that she expects to recover more than S$320 million of the bank' s total exposure. Swiber is an " idiosyncratic" case as its financing is secured against working capital rather than physical assets, unlike other Singaporean companies in the same industry,  DBS chief executive officer Piyush Gupta said. The Straits Times gauge is down 0.4 per cent in 2016. Shares on the measure trade at 13 times 12-month projected earnings, below the 10-year average multiple of 13.3. " The Singapore equity market definitely interests me," said AMP' s  Naeimi. " Bank valuations offer a good buffer against bankruptcies in marginal oil services players."
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famouspinky Supreme	10-Aug-2016 12:19        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Keep urselves sane and healthy. Good health is good wealth. famouspinky      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 12:16) Posted: Nobody knows what willhappen tomorrow. What will be, will be. Remember to send in feed back form frm SJ. SJ is super👍 investshare      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 11:58) Posted: I can understand the market worry now. Especially after XD till next results announcement, there could be no more positive news and may even void of any news. That will be a time when doubts, uncertainty and fears kick in. Therefore, market is demanding a safety margin. It is not realistic to expect DBS to trade at book value at this point of time. As I mention before, I believe current price is fair, not expensive, not cheap.   Vested:  05/08 $14.86  08/08 $14.91  10/08 $14.90
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WanSiTong Supreme	10-Aug-2016 12:18        WanSiTong About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What Comes Down Must Go Up !     Sun233, thanks for sharing.  Just to reiterate/ highlight a few points:  DBS Group Holdings lost S $ 3.6 billion in market value in seven days from July 28 ..... With bank stocks priced near their cheapest since the depths of the global financial crisis, Nader Naeimi of AMP Capital Investors Ltd says it ' s time to buy, while Aberdeen' s Hugh Young says they ' ll prove resilient to any debt exposure. " The banks are strong and valuations are reasonable, backed by decent dividends,"   Generally, they ' re a buy. There will be other Swibers so it is a risk. If you wait until the problems are sorted, the prices would have moved. It' s not an easy call, but at these levels, a fair chunk of bad news is in the price. "   DBS is down almost 10 per cent this year and is trading at the lowest level since January 2013 relative to the MSCI Asia Pacific Index. The Singapore bank is valued at 0.9 times net assets, below the multiples for United Overseas Bank and Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp, data compiled by Bloomberg show. Shares of UOB have fallen 7.9 per cent in 2016 while OCBC has declined 3.5 per cent.     " Banks are a great buying opportunity at these levels," said Naeimi, Sydney-based head of dynamic markets at AMP Capital, which oversees about US $ 120 billion. " Most of the bad news is priced in."         sun233      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 07:49) Posted: Some fund managers sniff a bargain as debt panic hammers Singapore banks SINGAPORE (BLOOMBERG) - The recent drubbing in Singapore bank stocks is turning Southeast Asia' s biggest lenders into bargains for money managers including Aberdeen Asset Management. DBS Group Holdings lost S$3.6 billion in market value in seven days from July 28 when  its client Swiber Holdings Ltd signaled it was in financial trouble. DBS' s two smaller domestic rivals slid at least 5 per cent. With bank stocks priced near their cheapest since the depths of the global financial crisis, Nader Naeimi of AMP Capital Investors Ltd says it' s time to buy, while Aberdeen' s Hugh Young says they' ll prove resilient to any debt exposure. " The banks are strong and valuations are reasonable, backed by decent dividends," Mr Young, Singapore-based managing director at Aberdeen, which oversees about US$420 billion, said by e-mail. " Generally, they' re a buy. There will be other Swibers so it is a risk. If you wait until the problems are sorted, the prices would have moved. It' s not an easy call, but at these levels, a fair chunk of bad news is in the price." The fallout from  the energy-services firm' s troubles add to the struggles facing Singapore' s lenders as they navigate their exposure to  energy-related companies amid spending cuts by explorers and an economy estimated to expand at the slowest pace in seven years in 2016. That' s weighed on Singapore' s stocks market this year, the worst performer among major Southeast Asian peers after Malaysia, and the only country in the region where earnings are projected to shrink in the next 12 months. DBS is down almost 10 per cent this year and is trading at the lowest level since January 2013 relative to the MSCI Asia Pacific Index. The Singapore bank is valued at 0.9 times net assets, below the multiples for United Overseas Bank and Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp, data compiled by Bloomberg show. Shares of UOB have fallen 7.9 per cent in 2016 while OCBC has declined 3.5 per cent.     " Banks are a great buying opportunity at these levels," said  Naeimi,  Sydney-based head of dynamic markets at AMP Capital, which oversees about US$120 billion. " Most of the bad news is priced in." Swiber, facing about US$50.5 million of demands last month from various creditors, said July 29 that it' s seeking to operate under court supervision as it attempts to turn around its business. Two days earlier, it had filed a petition for liquidation, which was dropped following talks with lenders. Swiber' s woes are the latest example of the difficulties engulfing the oil industry since crude prices plunged more than 50 per cent in two years and forced explorers such as Royal Dutch Shell and Statoil ASA to cut spending. The rout in commodity shares and Singapore lenders dragged the benchmark Straits Times Index to 1.1 times book value, compared with 1.4 for the MSCI Asia Pacific Index. That' s the biggest discount since the financial crisis. Not everyone is rushing to buy bank shares just yet. " The defaults in the energy sector are just starting so it' s still too early to nibble," said Kar Tzen Chow, Kuala Lumpur-based fund manager at Affin Hwang Asset Management Bhd, which oversees about US$7.6 billion. " The discount reflects the fundamental outlook for Singapore, with global growth and external demand remaining weak." DBS said on Monday (Aug 8) that second-quarter profit declined 6 per cent as provisions for Swiber overshadowed gains in interest and fee income. The bank' s exposure to Swiber amounted to S$721 million, according to a presentation accompanying its results. Chng Sok Hui, DBS' s chief financial officer, said at the briefing that she expects to recover more than S$320 million of the bank' s total exposure. Swiber is an " idiosyncratic" case as its financing is secured against working capital rather than physical assets, unlike other Singaporean companies in the same industry,  DBS chief executive officer Piyush Gupta said. The Straits Times gauge is down 0.4 per cent in 2016. Shares on the measure trade at 13 times 12-month projected earnings, below the 10-year average multiple of 13.3. " The Singapore equity market definitely interests me," said AMP' s  Naeimi. " Bank valuations offer a good buffer against bankruptcies in marginal oil services players."
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famouspinky Supreme	10-Aug-2016 12:16        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Nobody knows what willhappen tomorrow. What will be, will be. Remember to send in feed back form frm SJ. SJ is super👍 investshare      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 11:58) Posted: I can understand the market worry now. Especially after XD till next results announcement, there could be no more positive news and may even void of any news. That will be a time when doubts, uncertainty and fears kick in. Therefore, market is demanding a safety margin. It is not realistic to expect DBS to trade at book value at this point of time. As I mention before, I believe current price is fair, not expensive, not cheap.   Vested:  05/08 $14.86  08/08 $14.91  10/08 $14.90 sgng123      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 11:40) Posted: Market not convinced lol, it is ndp window dressing but again afternoon it might declared cum dividend but it goes ex cd on next monday. Yup so 30 cent drop inevident next week. Global market holding up by fed reserve due to us presidential wlection, this year sti high chance in this trading range of 2800. But come next year it gona be very ugly, no support needed as no election. If donald trump win hehe prepare for black christmas.
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latebird2000 Member	10-Aug-2016 12:15        latebird2000 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	lots of uncertainties. But too good to miss out on this for me, will be nibbling again soon famouspinky      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 11:54) Posted: Dividends maybe. Can forget about upside. This is is as gd as dead. surefire      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 11:31) Posted: Good price to get in as core holding for 4% div yield plus capital upside. DBS has shown its confidence by maintaining its $0.30 interim div
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investshare Supreme	10-Aug-2016 11:58        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I can understand the market worry now. Especially after XD till next results announcement, there could be no more positive news and may even void of any news. That will be a time when doubts, uncertainty and fears kick in. Therefore, market is demanding a safety margin. It is not realistic to expect DBS to trade at book value at this point of time. As I mention before, I believe current price is fair, not expensive, not cheap.   Vested:  05/08 $14.86  08/08 $14.91  10/08 $14.90 sgng123      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 11:40) Posted: Market not convinced lol, it is ndp window dressing but again afternoon it might declared cum dividend but it goes ex cd on next monday. Yup so 30 cent drop inevident next week. Global market holding up by fed reserve due to us presidential wlection, this year sti high chance in this trading range of 2800. But come next year it gona be very ugly, no support needed as no election. If donald trump win hehe prepare for black christmas.
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famouspinky Supreme	10-Aug-2016 11:54        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dividends maybe. Can forget about upside. This is is as gd as dead. surefire      ( Date: 10-Aug-2016 11:31) Posted: Good price to get in as core holding for 4% div yield plus capital upside. DBS has shown its confidence by maintaining its $0.30 interim div
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sgng123 Supreme	10-Aug-2016 11:40        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Market not convinced lol, it is ndp window dressing but again afternoon it might declared cum dividend but it goes ex cd on next monday. Yup so 30 cent drop inevident next week. Global market holding up by fed reserve due to us presidential wlection, this year sti high chance in this trading range of 2800. But come next year it gona be very ugly, no support needed as no election. If donald trump win hehe prepare for black christmas.
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surefire Member	10-Aug-2016 11:31        surefire About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good price to get in as core holding for 4% div yield plus capital upside. DBS has shown its confidence by maintaining its $0.30 interim div
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pnuklis Master	10-Aug-2016 11:15        pnuklis About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Already below 15. Just wait for other companies it has lent money belly up like Ezra/Emas, Pacific Radiance, NC in the pipeline. Can expect to reach 10 dollars.
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