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FATABA Supreme	06-Apr-2020 11:09        FATABA About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Those who short the mkt this morning is v worry .....2pm budget may add more surprise /cant b negative . Dyodd alexcai      ( Date: 06-Apr-2020 10:46) Posted: Today is a strong day. Package 3 coming? will hit 18.50 today?
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alexcai Member	06-Apr-2020 10:46        alexcai About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Today is a strong day. Package 3 coming? will hit 18.50 today?
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Knightmyst Member	06-Apr-2020 09:56        Knightmyst About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dividend cut is a warning also to investors who buy banks in recession. Sgx got many stocks. Why need buy banks during recession? Buy when economy better is correct, especially for banks.
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SgYuan Supreme	06-Apr-2020 09:24        SgYuan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 2  Alert Admin	dbs wabc wa 1848 1790 wb 1790 1822 - px cannot break up 1816 then wc continue wc 1822 ?1764
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investshare Supreme	06-Apr-2020 09:15        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There is a difference between already approved vs subject to approve. DBS div is subject to AGM approve. Starship      ( Date: 06-Apr-2020 09:13) Posted: Breaking news today, HSBC investors are forcing an EGM to get the bank to pay dividends. And also looking to sue the bank. Let this be a warning to any bank attempting to cancel dividends.  trademaster      ( Date: 06-Apr-2020 09:09) Posted: OCBC also change its AGM date...will announce if any change in div date etc...
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Starship Supreme	06-Apr-2020 09:13        Starship About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Breaking news today, HSBC investors are forcing an EGM to get the bank to pay dividends. And also looking to sue the bank. Let this be a warning to any bank attempting to cancel dividends.  trademaster      ( Date: 06-Apr-2020 09:09) Posted: OCBC also change its AGM date...will announce if any change in div date etc...
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trademaster Supreme	06-Apr-2020 09:09        trademaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	OCBC also change its AGM date...will announce if any change in div date etc...
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NT1825 Master	05-Apr-2020 21:31        NT1825 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree. The dividends are already allocated and as a business - the foundation of the company is supported by investor confidence/trust and in this case account to about 64% of market capital of the company.  The payment is a non-issue, in my honest view. Furthermore the business operation of a bank is hardly affected, unlike gambling, entertainment etc AhLiang      ( Date: 04-Apr-2020 16:57) Posted: I will be very surprised if DBS doesn't pay this dividend. Not only because it is not in financial distress but also for Singapore and for a bank, trust (信 ) is more important than anything else.
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pasttime Supreme	04-Apr-2020 19:56        pasttime About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "gold silver are real money. not others iou."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	dividend from business is one of the best way to boost economy. small investors spending dividend helps the economic wheel to spin. big investor will have cash to do more scooping under value business.
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AhLiang Elite	04-Apr-2020 16:57        AhLiang About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	I will be very surprised if DBS doesn't pay this dividend. Not only because it is not in financial distress but also for Singapore and for a bank, trust (信 ) is more important than anything else.
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like2learn Veteran	04-Apr-2020 16:16        like2learn About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i think for a solid company like dbs, stop or not stop dividends is not really an issue for long term investors. the crisis will past (if not it' s end of the world anyway), dbs will resume its earning power in a matter of time, and the share price reverts. speaking of 2009, well, dividend or not i never track but i remember the rights : https://www.reuters.com/article/dbs/update-1-singapore-dbss-2-7-bln-rights-issue-oversubscribed-idUSLL17722620090121 but for short term trading, it' s beyond my game.
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john_ric Supreme	04-Apr-2020 16:04        john_ric About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	current proposed dividend of $0.33 should be paid but AGM date not fixed due to covid-19 movement restrictions. future dividend  reduction or not still early to say. we dont mixed up the two.
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F1nGolf Member	04-Apr-2020 14:33        F1nGolf About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I stand by my position on the potential risk of dividend reduction or stoppage after May dividend. We are in un- precedented time which has brought the global economies to a abrupt halt. Just look at the hard data on job loss in US and Europe. This has never happened in the past 19 years of DBS dividend paying years not even during SARS or GFC. I' m vested in DBS and hope that they will not stop paying dividend even at lower rate. But I' m a realist too and I' m more than happy if my concern is a non-event.    sharenoob1984      ( Date: 04-Apr-2020 13:49) Posted: again, i have to disagree on the word stop paying dividend. using historical basis as justification (19 years record), DBS pays dividends all the time, even under more challenging conditions. Please click on the link to debunk any fears. But yes, dividend amounts varies. https://www.dbs.com/investors/financials/dividend-information   F1nGolf      ( Date: 04-Apr-2020 13:17) Posted: I don' t disagree with some of your points. I' m sure that the Singapore government will also take the need to upkeep their reputation as a global financial centre into consideration during this challenging time. Personally, I think the May dividend should be intact since they have annouced this. Subsequent dividends would be at risk of being reduced or stopped.
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sharenoob1984 Veteran	04-Apr-2020 13:49        sharenoob1984 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	again, i have to disagree on the word stop paying dividend. using historical basis as justification (19 years record), DBS pays dividends all the time, even under more challenging conditions. Please click on the link to debunk any fears. But yes, dividend amounts varies. https://www.dbs.com/investors/financials/dividend-information   F1nGolf      ( Date: 04-Apr-2020 13:17) Posted: I don' t disagree with some of your points. I' m sure that the Singapore government will also take the need to upkeep their reputation as a global financial centre into consideration during this challenging time. Personally, I think the May dividend should be intact since they have annouced this. Subsequent dividends would be at risk of being reduced or stopped.  guavaMoment      ( Date: 04-Apr-2020 09:58) Posted: Yes, to be truthful, it is. I am not some insider in DBS or the government. This is only my own reading. But one which I believe I am not alone in. Consider the facts :- 1) Bigger banks around the globe are cancelling dividend payments and share buy-backs to keep cash. 2) NPL have not been mentioned yet but can anyone believe that it won' t be the worst ever seen this year ? 3) DBS principle ownership is with the Singaproe government 4) Singapore Government is calling on everyone to do national service. And with the financial insituitions, it is  not just to stay at home. 5) On recently announced dividend payment, this is subject to share-holder approval. And guess who holds the most shares ? But again, this is my own reading. Make your own decisions
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F1nGolf Member	04-Apr-2020 13:17        F1nGolf About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I don' t disagree with some of your points. I' m sure that the Singapore government will also take the need to upkeep their reputation as a global financial centre into consideration during this challenging time. Personally, I think the May dividend should be intact since they have annouced this. Subsequent dividends would be at risk of being reduced or stopped.  guavaMoment      ( Date: 04-Apr-2020 09:58) Posted: Yes, to be truthful, it is. I am not some insider in DBS or the government. This is only my own reading. But one which I believe I am not alone in. Consider the facts :- 1) Bigger banks around the globe are cancelling dividend payments and share buy-backs to keep cash. 2) NPL have not been mentioned yet but can anyone believe that it won' t be the worst ever seen this year ? 3) DBS principle ownership is with the Singaproe government 4) Singapore Government is calling on everyone to do national service. And with the financial insituitions, it is  not just to stay at home. 5) On recently announced dividend payment, this is subject to share-holder approval. And guess who holds the most shares ? But again, this is my own reading. Make your own decisions. F1nGolf      ( Date: 03-Apr-2020 20:29) Posted: DBS highly likely stop dividend this year - Is this based purely on your own speculation
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AhLiang Elite	04-Apr-2020 11:56        AhLiang About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Disclaimer : I am not saying any specific companies did that but to me, shares buy-back can mean buy back from some specific investors. It can be done because there is such things as 'priority queues', 'private deals', 'married deals', 'pre-opening, pre-closing, lunchbreak matchings" etc. SGX is highly computerised and this is not a problem at all. It is all within the confines of the law. Nothing illegal. This explains why shares buy-back usually happen in a bear market and down trend and hence it is nothing to cheer about. uiop1223      ( Date: 04-Apr-2020 10:22) Posted: Then enlighten me why sharebuy back is needed when the whole mkt is down? Issit this throwing money to sea? The whole mkt is falling. DBS spend $20m each day to buy back shares for? Whats the point Sharebuy back needed, if say, a company is unfairly targeted by shortlists and the mtgm KNOW that the value of company is undervalued and the company has no irregularities. Note the word ?KNOW?. We seen companies like noble doing share buy backs.. end up theres something wrong with the company. AhLiang      ( Date: 04-Apr-2020 09:44) Posted: One shouldn't look at shares buy-back at the surface. Not talking about just DBS but all in general. Then you will know it is not stupid.
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john_ric Supreme	04-Apr-2020 10:38        john_ric About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Pay or not it is simple..If got profit they pay div. If loss no div
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sharenoob1984 Veteran	04-Apr-2020 10:23        sharenoob1984 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, it's likely your own tots. Even during previous worse recessions, dbs paid divy even at reduced rates. Never stopped. I know it's easy to logic think, but need to do more research la guavaMoment      ( Date: 04-Apr-2020 09:58) Posted: Yes, to be truthful, it is. I am not some insider in DBS or the government. This is only my own reading. But one which I believe I am not alone in. Consider the facts :- 1) Bigger banks around the globe are cancelling dividend payments and share buy-backs to keep cash. 2) NPL have not been mentioned yet but can anyone believe that it won' t be the worst ever seen this year ? 3) DBS principle ownership is with the Singaproe government 4) Singapore Government is calling on everyone to do national service. And with the financial insituitions, it is  not just to stay at home. 5) On recently announced dividend payment, this is subject to share-holder approval. And guess who holds the most shares ? But again, this is my own reading. Make your own decisions. F1nGolf      ( Date: 03-Apr-2020 20:29) Posted: DBS highly likely stop dividend this year - Is this based purely on your own speculation
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uiop1223 Supreme	04-Apr-2020 10:22        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Then enlighten me why sharebuy back is needed when the whole mkt is down? Issit this throwing money to sea? The whole mkt is falling. DBS spend $20m each day to buy back shares for? Whats the point Sharebuy back needed, if say, a company is unfairly targeted by shortlists and the mtgm KNOW that the value of company is undervalued and the company has no irregularities. Note the word ?KNOW?. We seen companies like noble doing share buy backs.. end up theres something wrong with the company. AhLiang      ( Date: 04-Apr-2020 09:44) Posted: One shouldn't look at shares buy-back at the surface. Not talking about just DBS but all in general. Then you will know it is not stupid. uiop1223      ( Date: 04-Apr-2020 09:25) Posted: No! Its stupid in the first place!
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guavaMoment Senior	04-Apr-2020 09:58        guavaMoment About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, to be truthful, it is. I am not some insider in DBS or the government. This is only my own reading. But one which I believe I am not alone in. Consider the facts :- 1) Bigger banks around the globe are cancelling dividend payments and share buy-backs to keep cash. 2) NPL have not been mentioned yet but can anyone believe that it won' t be the worst ever seen this year ? 3) DBS principle ownership is with the Singaproe government 4) Singapore Government is calling on everyone to do national service. And with the financial insituitions, it is  not just to stay at home. 5) On recently announced dividend payment, this is subject to share-holder approval. And guess who holds the most shares ? But again, this is my own reading. Make your own decisions. F1nGolf      ( Date: 03-Apr-2020 20:29) Posted: DBS highly likely stop dividend this year - Is this based purely on your own speculation? guavaMoment      ( Date: 03-Apr-2020 12:21) Posted: I think if  DBS give half the dividend they gave last year, it will be fantastic. But sorry to say it is highly likely dividends will stop this year. UOB and OCBC may still give small dividends but DBS likely will stop.
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