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investshare Supreme	16-Aug-2016 14:03        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I don' t think we can ignore the importance of net profit and so-called ' non-recurring losses" , For example, if you do aggressive lending, and do not make enough provision, then you will have good operating profit. But the risk is that there will be default. We cannot conveniently brush them away as one-off, non-recurring, and ignore it. willisow      ( Date: 16-Aug-2016 11:10) Posted: Hi guys, a sharing with everyone on banks including DBS..if u r using the relative method for valuation it is better to focus on operating profit than net profit reported by the media..reason being operating profit measure the company core earning where else net profit include non recurring income which will distort the measurement..for past 10 years DBS operating profit has increased every year except in 2008 the global financial crisis (decreased about 5% as compared to 2007) as of the latest quarter it still shown rising in operating profit. Some ppl may query since its operating profit only fall by 5% during 2008 why is it so it' s share price drop 60% from its peak? Reason being is there is no correlation between short term mkt price n it' s operating earning but not for long term..in 2009 it share rice rebounded way above its operating profit. Current share price present the same situation as 2008, the current share price represent a 30% reduction in operating profit but in reality it' s operating profit has increased as compared to half year 2015..thus it represent an arbitrage profit..however this arbitrage profit is not going to be reflected immediately, it may take months to years for the mkt sentiment to shift to optimism n once that happen the price will rise to reflect its valuation..the safest way to invest is to pick a stock which mkt value fall below its real value n over time u will gain that arbitrage profit..there are cases where mkt value n real value fall hand in hand n that' s happening in the oil n gas sector now thus u have to do your homework in order to pick the correct stock..of cos we can' t guarantee that DBS operating profit will not fall 30% going forward but as an investor we take calculated risk n the past probability shown that even during a massive recession like the global financial crisis dis operating profit only drop 5% n that' s the only time it drop since the last 10 years from now, thus those who are keen in this company n buy a fraction n buy further when it share price dip further that represent a 40% drop in operating profit n that will be sgd12 plus..good day..
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Demostation Supreme	16-Aug-2016 12:11        Demostation About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No upside in the present climatic condition.   Stock weather is " warui" , and getting worse here.   Then DBS is also carrying too much debts for others on its shoulders. DYODD. Immortal      ( Date: 16-Aug-2016 09:36) Posted: DBS is in horizontal range now, needs to break out for more upside.....hopefully soon
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willisow Master	16-Aug-2016 11:10        willisow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi guys, a sharing with everyone on banks including DBS..if u r using the relative method for valuation it is better to focus on operating profit than net profit reported by the media..reason being operating profit measure the company core earning where else net profit include non recurring income which will distort the measurement..for past 10 years DBS operating profit has increased every year except in 2008 the global financial crisis (decreased about 5% as compared to 2007) as of the latest quarter it still shown rising in operating profit. Some ppl may query since its operating profit only fall by 5% during 2008 why is it so it' s share price drop 60% from its peak? Reason being is there is no correlation between short term mkt price n it' s operating earning but not for long term..in 2009 it share rice rebounded way above its operating profit. Current share price present the same situation as 2008, the current share price represent a 30% reduction in operating profit but in reality it' s operating profit has increased as compared to half year 2015..thus it represent an arbitrage profit..however this arbitrage profit is not going to be reflected immediately, it may take months to years for the mkt sentiment to shift to optimism n once that happen the price will rise to reflect its valuation..the safest way to invest is to pick a stock which mkt value fall below its real value n over time u will gain that arbitrage profit..there are cases where mkt value n real value fall hand in hand n that' s happening in the oil n gas sector now thus u have to do your homework in order to pick the correct stock..of cos we can' t guarantee that DBS operating profit will not fall 30% going forward but as an investor we take calculated risk n the past probability shown that even during a massive recession like the global financial crisis dis operating profit only drop 5% n that' s the only time it drop since the last 10 years from now, thus those who are keen in this company n buy a fraction n buy further when it share price dip further that represent a 40% drop in operating profit n that will be sgd12 plus..good day..
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seanpent Supreme	16-Aug-2016 11:05        seanpent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	re-loading ...
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$warrior Master	16-Aug-2016 10:31        $warrior About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Certainly hope so!   If can go to $14.65 already good.   But $13.8 will be a bonus hlfoo2010      ( Date: 16-Aug-2016 09:50) Posted: Buy when cheap like buying moa son durian from $18 down to $12 per kg few week ago, wait to down to $8 + eat more. 1/3 down. DBS fr $20 over heated can she down to $13.8  ?????
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blissbao Member	16-Aug-2016 10:03        blissbao About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	DBS takes instruction from puppet master... Boss Gupta said they will not pull the plug on an ailing company..He lacks clarity on this statement..Is DBS going to break lending convenant...where is the source of repayment for these bad loans.? Throwing good money over bad.? In Singapore...not unusual to hear..Ownself check ownself..In related companies book..it is Ownself lend ownself.       pnuklis      ( Date: 16-Aug-2016 09:47) Posted: After Pacific Richfield, Swiber, Ezra/Emas, Pacific Radiance, Vallianz, Krisengergy what next for DBS? Howmany skelitons are going to come out of the DBS closet?
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hlfoo2010 Master	16-Aug-2016 09:50        hlfoo2010 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Buy when cheap like buying moa son durian from $18 down to $12 per kg few week ago, wait to down to $8 + eat more. 1/3 down. DBS fr $20 over heated can she down to $13.8  ?????
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pnuklis Master	16-Aug-2016 09:47        pnuklis About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	After Pacific Richfield, Swiber, Ezra/Emas, Pacific Radiance, Vallianz, Krisengergy what next for DBS? Howmany skelitons are going to come out of the DBS closet?
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Immortal Master	16-Aug-2016 09:36        Immortal About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	DBS is in horizontal range now, needs to break out for more upside.....hopefully soon
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WanSiTong Supreme	16-Aug-2016 08:50        WanSiTong About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	sgng123      ( Date: 11-Aug-2016 10:40) Posted: If u wanna buy cheap wait for next mon, when it go xd 100% it would be down by 0.30 lol
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slchan Member	15-Aug-2016 20:40        slchan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	KrisEnergy also has a  S$200 million bond due in August 2018, in addition to a US$148.3 million secured revolving credit facility with DBS Group Holdings Ltd, according to an investor presentation released Monday. The note indicates that under the covenants, the firm' s permissible fixed-charge coverage ratio will be two times from next year, from the current 1.5 times.
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investshare Supreme	15-Aug-2016 17:26        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	anti climax.
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Hei123 Senior	15-Aug-2016 16:21        Hei123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yea ...... like Schooling' s flip and power ahead !   WanSiTong      ( Date: 15-Aug-2016 16:07) Posted: schooling butterfly kick...
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WanSiTong Supreme	15-Aug-2016 16:07        WanSiTong About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	schooling butterfly kick...
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investshare Supreme	15-Aug-2016 15:45        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	price stuck.
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Hei123 Senior	15-Aug-2016 15:15        Hei123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thank you for sharing with me your thought on DBS. I' ll bear in mind. Qanghoo      ( Date: 15-Aug-2016 12:10) Posted: Congrats, all.  This is still a very resillient stock.  DYODD of course.  But for me, investing in DBS is gonna cause sleepless nights.  I' m 100% sure.  Personally, not my preferred banking partner n not my best  friend.  As an investment target though, it' s really still one of the best n safest.  Awesome.  Hei123      ( Date: 15-Aug-2016 11:48) Posted: N best part is we get to keep the dividend.
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sgng123 Supreme	15-Aug-2016 13:19        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That too but for now focus on the next delist tgt, property, offshore and transport all tgt for privatisation these few years as economy slow and dividend cut.
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famouspinky Supreme	15-Aug-2016 13:00        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not to say defaults frm property developers for failing to repay loans frm over supply of properties. sgng123      ( Date: 15-Aug-2016 12:45) Posted: Might see more downside since 3q almost over with little support in sight. More O& S companies would default on their debt so more stress on sg banks.
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sgng123 Supreme	15-Aug-2016 12:45        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Might see more downside since 3q almost over with little support in sight. More O& S companies would default on their debt so more stress on sg banks.
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Qanghoo Supreme	15-Aug-2016 12:10        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Congrats, all.  This is still a very resillient stock.  DYODD of course.  But for me, investing in DBS is gonna cause sleepless nights.  I' m 100% sure.  Personally, not my preferred banking partner n not my best  friend.  As an investment target though, it' s really still one of the best n safest.  Awesome.  Hei123      ( Date: 15-Aug-2016 11:48) Posted: N best part is we get to keep the dividend. pinkowl      ( Date: 15-Aug-2016 11:09) Posted: Thanks. Price looking resilient. All the best to u too.
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