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Immortal
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29-Aug-2016 10:42
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The FED is accomodating and any rise in interest rate is moderate. Expect to see good days ahead for stocks. |
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willisow
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29-Aug-2016 10:37
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I' m not sure what u mean by unknown, if u r referring to I have stated a valuation price for DBS but not able to furnish a time frame, I have the following sharing with u 1) when we invest in a company we hold a fraction of the entity, the performance of the business are directly associated with the shareholders. As an investor we would like to buy a business at a price below its fair value to give ourselve a margin of safety n hence we will need to estimate its valuation. Before I go on let me quote u a simple example. Assuming u hold a net asset of 1 million currently n your employment or business give u an annual net cashflow of $50k for the next 10 years, a simple calculation will show that your valuation is 1.5mil (1mil + 50k x 10 years) ignoring discounting factors n growth for simple illustration.  This is your valuation at present value but in reality you only have 1mil on hand becos the annual 50k cashflow for the next 10 years are not in your pocket yet. Thus if u really need to state a time frame to  realize the valuation (ignoring present value effect) it will be 10 years. This is called real economy. 2) next, assuming u r listed in the stock exchange, your valuation will be reflected over time in the share price, again if u need a time frame it will be 10 years from now. However, in reality the time needed for the stock mkt to reflect your valuation will be shorter (stock mkt always move ahead of the real economy) but we are not ascertain to know the exact time line becos in the short run stock mkt are irrational n over rule by greed n fear.  There is no way that we can calculate when the mkt will become greedy likewise there is no way for me to know when u will be greedy n when u will be fearful. Thus, the time line will be somewhere between now to 10 years n will be shorter than 10 years. 3) thus, it is not an unknown..it is something that will happen but it just take time. The above illustrated is the cashflow n balance sheet valuation method. In my previous post I have shared with everyone a more simple n yet practical method for calculating the bank valuation, pe method. I have explicitly explained step by step in how the DBS valuation is derived. I' m most willing to lend a listening ear to your comment or feedback if u have physically tried out the calculation. However if u did not even put in an effort to try out, don' t know what is happening n jump straight to conclusion to criticise for the sake of criticism, u r just making a fool out of yourself for no reason. This is the second time u attacked me for no reason, I have been nice n given u a polite replied in your first attack. Hope that u will restraint your behavior n earn the respect from others. Thank you.  
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29-Aug-2016 10:32
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Yellen wld probably be doing DBS a favour soon. 
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hlfoo2010
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29-Aug-2016 09:51
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Yellen wisely keeps Fed on a steady course: Bloomberg ViewSCAM is a scam. IS White scam is wisely ??? |
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famouspinky
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29-Aug-2016 09:45
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sgng123
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29-Aug-2016 07:46
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They trying to keep faith while knowing the market correction would come. Sep and Oct bad months for market as fund managers take profit and prepared for year end holidays. Good time to load on defensive stocks if correction in sep then unload on dec when bb do window dressing. |
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famouspinky
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29-Aug-2016 00:23
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Why talk about things which is unknown?.
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willisow
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28-Aug-2016 23:44
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Hi famouspinky, thanks for your feedback :) being honest n open are the most important aspects in communication. Topic that beyond my knowledge I would have to admit n it would be good that u can share if u know the time frame needed for the mkt to turn greedy. It doesn' t matter whether I' m sharing general or sophiscated stuff, most importantly is the recipient feel benefitted n useful..trying to be showy n impress others by thinking I' m very sophiscated is not my intention to share...you have your liberty of not participating in discussion relating to animal but it will be good that u can respect others n so to be respected..I welcome your feedback n sharing if u think that topics which I mentioned are lack of substance n u have better idea to share that will benefit everyone (I can also learn from u)..by criticizing others without your own concrete solution is not a gentlemen act..thank you..  
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famouspinky
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28-Aug-2016 22:50
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Rm to do the right things dude. Doing most thins right do not equate to Alll things right. It's right to be kind to animals but it's not right to talk about animal Kingdom in a dbs thread. Ur view, 1) bullish dbs stock px to $20. 2) bearish macro social condition in mainland and perhaps bearish on sme galaxy entertainment shares. Hmm very general stuffs. U also mentioned that it will take time from fearful to greedy. That's definitely. Ur time frame is 1) general 2) No time frame. By mentioning $20 dbs with no time frame is absurd.
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famouspinky
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28-Aug-2016 22:37
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Every iving matter has a life span and this is a dbs thread lol.
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willisow
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28-Aug-2016 19:43
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Middle of this month I just went to hk to exit for my visa. While I was there I met an 80 years old old lady in the cafe (茶 餐 厅 ) n we started to chit chat (I can chat with anybody :)) when I told her I' m still single she shared with me the important of preparing ourselves for retirement. She said we must financially prepared ourselves when we are old, we should not have the thought of depending on others, don' t have to be so crazy about earning money, adequate is good enough.. At my age I fully understood what she mean becos I' m already half inside the coffin..money n social status is no longer important..I just like what I' m doing now becos I feel so happy everyday :) I think u r a young guy, u will know as u grow older :)  
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willisow
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28-Aug-2016 19:30
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Hi Cain,  I' m really surprised by your kind soul, we only chatted once yesterday n you are so helpful..I really appreciated very much..thank you pal.. I still have not fully decided whether to let my dog continue to stay in prc or bring her back to sg becos she is already 9years old n coming 10 soon (senior citizen liao)..I' m worried that she can' t take the stress (my dog is very timid) when she is being put in the lagguage cabin when I fly her back (there are cases where dogs are so frighten that they scare to death in the plane).. Nevertheless I will still keep your email just in case I change my mind.. It is really nice of u, thank you so much :)    
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Immortal
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28-Aug-2016 18:54
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Really cool....glad you have the heart to do this plus your value investing will make you huat. Anyway, just wati for DBS, I like to hear your view on DBS so it complements to what I have. Thanks!
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cain85
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28-Aug-2016 17:36
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Bro, I send u something go take alook hope it helps.
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famouspinky
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28-Aug-2016 16:38
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willisow
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28-Aug-2016 16:35
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That' s for sure, when I' m back I will become a full time volunteer whichever charity organization want me. In fact, I have a plan n I will share it with those organization when I' m back. Besides asking public for donation those stray dogs n cats organization can employ professional dog trainers to train selected stray dogs with tricks n acrobat or teach them to perform like those talent show in u.k n u.s..thereafter they can tie up with school, travel agent to bring ppl to come n watch these performance. by doing so, the charity organization can sell tickets, revenue less off expenses will be used to take care of these strays.  Thus, it can create another stream of funding n not entirely dependent on public donation..whenever I have nothing to do I will think of all these funny ideas to prepare myself when I' m back :)  
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Immortal
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28-Aug-2016 16:22
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PRC definitely worse for dogs. When you are back permanently in Singapore, there are a number of organizations that support stray dogs/abandoned dogs which you can help out if you have the time.   |
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willisow
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28-Aug-2016 15:21
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I' m not sure how sporean treat dogs n cats in sg but I think it should not be worst than in prc..in prc they really treat pet no different from pig, cow n etc..they called them 畜 牲 . Even those pet shop they cage a few dogs in one small cage for selling..the poor dogs basically can' t move at all..those dog which are left over n can' t sold off will be sold to the slaughtering mkt for ppl to buy their meat n eat..anybody who like dogs will feel very heart broken when u see such situation in front of u.. There are many things which most sporean can' t imagine but happening in prc..u won' t get to know much if u r just here for few days as a tourist.. Very sad...  
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willisow
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28-Aug-2016 15:10
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Hi pal, I really can' t tell u the time line becos I myself also won' t know..there is no way to calculate when the mkt will switch from fearful to greedy but all I can say is it will definitely hit sgd20. Just like when I bought scb it took only about 7 months to realize the valuation but I wouldn' t want to give a timeline which I myself also not sure becos I don' t want to give false hope to others.. I don' t consider myself as a good owner becos I have done an irreversible decision for my dog for not sparing enough thought for her n this will made me guilty throughout the rest of my life. I should not have brought her to prc becos the standard of local vet are something which u can' t imagine in sg. Anybody who wear a white robe called themselve a doctor n they could be someone who just work in a clinic for one or two years n have no education training on medicine (likewise also the same for those who claimed that they r doctor providing treatment to human).  Thus I have not brought her to any of the local vet for checkup becos I don' t trust any of them. These ppl are just like unethical salesman, they will tell u that your dog have problem n need to receive  treatment, their motive is just to earn your money..every year when I' m back to sg I will go to my vet n get medicine to standby for my dog n heaven really blessed her, for past 7 years she is very healthy but I' m worried going forward..sigh..  
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Immortal
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28-Aug-2016 14:22
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what is your timeline to hit $20. Your dog is lucky to have a good owner.There are too many sad stories on abandoned dogs and strays
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