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AndyLoss Master	04-Dec-2015 18:26        AndyLoss About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	what does it translate to in terms of share price ? huatster      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 18:22) Posted: The offer of $2.2B has already been made
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huatster Senior	04-Dec-2015 18:22        huatster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The offer of $2.2B has already been made
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AndyLoss Master	04-Dec-2015 18:13        AndyLoss About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	below is what happened in case of TIGEr the Investment Watch DoG will not allow a deal which causes loss to the original shareholders of the company... AndyLoss      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 18:11) Posted: Tigerair takeover deal not fair for minority shareholders, says investing watchdog The offer price is too low. Retail investors who hold Tigerair shares might be getting the shorter end of the stick when it comes to Singapore Airlines&rsquo proposed privatisation of the budget carrier, according to a statement from the Securities Investors Association Singapore (SIAS). In a bid to take Tigerair private, SIA had earlier offered to pay 41 Singapore cents for Tigerair shares that it does not yet own, along with an option to subscribe for SIA shares at $11.1043 per share. However, SIAS argued that the offer price is 39% lower than what a long-term minority shareholder would have paid for Tigerair shares. &ldquo A Tiger Airways&rsquo shareholder, who held on to his IPO shares that was bought for $1.50 a share and subscribed to all three rights issues since IPO would have paid an average of $0.67 a share,&rdquo SIAS President David Gerald said in a statement.
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AndyLoss Master	04-Dec-2015 18:11        AndyLoss About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Tigerair takeover deal not fair for minority shareholders, says investing watchdog The offer price is too low. Retail investors who hold Tigerair shares might be getting the shorter end of the stick when it comes to Singapore Airlines&rsquo proposed privatisation of the budget carrier, according to a statement from the Securities Investors Association Singapore (SIAS). In a bid to take Tigerair private, SIA had earlier offered to pay 41 Singapore cents for Tigerair shares that it does not yet own, along with an option to subscribe for SIA shares at $11.1043 per share. However, SIAS argued that the offer price is 39% lower than what a long-term minority shareholder would have paid for Tigerair shares. &ldquo A Tiger Airways&rsquo shareholder, who held on to his IPO shares that was bought for $1.50 a share and subscribed to all three rights issues since IPO would have paid an average of $0.67 a share,&rdquo SIAS President David Gerald said in a statement.
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mrbean249 Senior	04-Dec-2015 18:11        mrbean249 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Also, like to raise this point up again. NOL is so call a national iconic asset of singapore, u think temasek and the PAP would even sell it below NAV?? If they do, PAP and temasek will get ridiculed by alot of long term investors and singaporeans who bought much earlier and the whole wide world, that their national iconic asset got trampled upon. So its likely they would rather not deal then to sell so cheaply. Given the circumstances now, seems like deal at a pretty good price is more possible.
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Bigbull888 Senior	04-Dec-2015 18:08        Bigbull888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Well said. sgng123      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 18:05) Posted: If lot of prominent business website start to broadcast the same piece of news over and over again, it meant something is brewing. What is the end result , it is one big question. So before u shoot ur mouth, think again and again why those website are promoting the CMA takeover. Not long ago the same peep in forum also say that CMA would not get bank support and deal would fail, but look what happen? CMA secured firm commitments from 3 international big banks, it not 1 but 3, why in the hell would CMA ask for support from all 3 bank, 1 bank is normally enough for M& A. Ask this question over and over in ur head and u should know the answer. WSJ is reputable newstand, they don release leak if they are not 100% sure that why lot of bro in forum believed the deal is imminent and big premium coming. unless u got insider info to rebutt WSJ else just keep quiet and enjoy the show performed by temasek and CMA. i am enjoying the drama watching from side and drinking coffee lol
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sgng123 Supreme	04-Dec-2015 18:05        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If lot of prominent business website start to broadcast the same piece of news over and over again, it meant something is brewing. What is the end result , it is one big question. So before u shoot ur mouth, think again and again why those website are promoting the CMA takeover. Not long ago the same peep in forum also say that CMA would not get bank support and deal would fail, but look what happen? CMA secured firm commitments from 3 international big banks, it not 1 but 3, why in the hell would CMA ask for support from all 3 bank, 1 bank is normally enough for M& A. Ask this question over and over in ur head and u should know the answer. WSJ is reputable newstand, they don release leak if they are not 100% sure that why lot of bro in forum believed the deal is imminent and big premium coming. unless u got insider info to rebutt WSJ else just keep quiet and enjoy the show performed by temasek and CMA. i am enjoying the drama watching from side and drinking coffee lol
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AndyLoss Master	04-Dec-2015 18:04        AndyLoss About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	what was the original price of the oldest shareholder ?? I guess 2$ Limchweepoh      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 18:01) Posted: This invisible theory at work also support why Nol is confident do away with any trading halt as their left hand know what their right hand is doing...furthermore they got the shareholders list & know exactly how many shares are free float Limchweepoh      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 17:56) Posted: Besides hard to do trade...also not to be discouraged when price didn't move as much as it should be like even cma has secured funding. Similarly if TH walk away from cma can, only mean they have plan B to execute so if shortist dare to push down just keep buying (within your means) as price again would fast recovered.
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feedfrenzy Veteran	04-Dec-2015 18:03        feedfrenzy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	EB is BB leh..   he should be whack gao gao...... seldom   see him so " excited"   Charlie2310      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 17:56) Posted: Nope...not worried. Hmmm...since you said $1.10...how many lots did you short?  kekeke. earlybird14      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 17:22) Posted: oh no, NOL expert fails in simple maths, jialat jialat, promoting so long, end up forget to sell at 1.225 today. Oh no.... 1.1, still no bad for those load below this level, but for those load above 1.1?  are you worrying now?
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Limchweepoh Member	04-Dec-2015 18:01        Limchweepoh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This invisible theory at work also support why Nol is confident do away with any trading halt as their left hand know what their right hand is doing...furthermore they got the shareholders list & know exactly how many shares are free float Limchweepoh      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 17:56) Posted: Besides hard to do trade...also not to be discouraged when price didn't move as much as it should be like even cma has secured funding. Similarly if TH walk away from cma can, only mean they have plan B to execute so if shortist dare to push down just keep buying (within your means) as price again would fast recovered.
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mrwise Supreme	04-Dec-2015 18:00        mrwise About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Fear not.... Be patience....
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Charlie2310 Senior	04-Dec-2015 17:58        Charlie2310 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hmmmmmmmmm.....nice... sgng123      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 17:55) Posted: SINGAPORE (Dec 4): Shares of Neptune Orient Lines ( Valuation: 0.90, Fundamental: 0.75) are trading near a three year high on hopes that French shipper CMA CGM SA is close to nearing a deal to buy the Singapore listed container shipper. The Wall Street Journal, quoting sources, reported Thursday that CMA CGM is in talks with banks including BNP Paribas Group, HSBC Holdings Plc. ( Valuation: None, Fundamental: None) and JP Morgan & Chase Co. to raise money to finance the acquisition of NOL in a deal valued at around US$5 billion ($7 billion). CMA CGM, the world' s third-largest container shipper by capacity had late last month entered into exclusive talks with NOL&rsquo s largest shareholder, Temasek Holdings, to buy its stake in NOL. If CMA CGM succeeds in buying the 65% stake, it will eventually lead to an offer for all of NOL. Stock is up 2.07% at $1.225, outperforming the Straits Times Index which is down 0.5%. 6 hour news from the edge website.
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Charlie2310 Senior	04-Dec-2015 17:56        Charlie2310 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Nope...not worried. Hmmm...since you said $1.10...how many lots did you short?  kekeke. earlybird14      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 17:22) Posted: oh no, NOL expert fails in simple maths, jialat jialat, promoting so long, end up forget to sell at 1.225 today. Oh no.... 1.1, still no bad for those load below this level, but for those load above 1.1?  are you worrying now?  earlybird14      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 17:20) Posted: market cap now is SGD3.1B leh or USD 2.21B. total 5bil, 3bil for debt, 2bil for shares, the offer price just nice 1.10 leh. This is price given by analysts few weeks ago already.  So why load above this level? opps? sing song so long, at the end still 1.1 or below. hahahaha
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Limchweepoh Member	04-Dec-2015 17:56        Limchweepoh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Besides hard to do trade...also not to be discouraged when price didn't move as much as it should be like even cma has secured funding. Similarly if TH walk away from cma can, only mean they have plan B to execute so if shortist dare to push down just keep buying (within your means) as price again would fast recovered.
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sgng123 Supreme	04-Dec-2015 17:55        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SINGAPORE (Dec 4): Shares of Neptune Orient Lines ( Valuation: 0.90, Fundamental: 0.75) are trading near a three year high on hopes that French shipper CMA CGM SA is close to nearing a deal to buy the Singapore listed container shipper. The Wall Street Journal, quoting sources, reported Thursday that CMA CGM is in talks with banks including BNP Paribas Group, HSBC Holdings Plc. ( Valuation: None, Fundamental: None) and JP Morgan & Chase Co. to raise money to finance the acquisition of NOL in a deal valued at around US$5 billion ($7 billion). CMA CGM, the world' s third-largest container shipper by capacity had late last month entered into exclusive talks with NOL&rsquo s largest shareholder, Temasek Holdings, to buy its stake in NOL. If CMA CGM succeeds in buying the 65% stake, it will eventually lead to an offer for all of NOL. Stock is up 2.07% at $1.225, outperforming the Straits Times Index which is down 0.5%. 6 hour news from the edge website.
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Charlie2310 Senior	04-Dec-2015 17:54        Charlie2310 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, exactly....people are fearful now...hahaha. TH rejected $1.50...so why would the offer price be less than $1.50?  Don' t be scared...remember Olam?  Last time got problems...everyone started to panic...Olam bonds at 0.80..all forgetting that the overall economy is still OK and that Olam is still a blue chip...for those who dared to buy Olam bonds then...instant 20% gain on capital not counting the coupons.. Vested long in this.  Not worried.  So far, the news have been slow and steady.  Fangqq      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 17:41) Posted: If takeover price is only $1.10, would TH still grant exclusivity ?
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Charlie2310 Senior	04-Dec-2015 17:50        Charlie2310 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Keep lookout for news...hehehe.
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feedfrenzy Veteran	04-Dec-2015 17:48        feedfrenzy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i agree.. so i think previously alot people loss money doing contra hoping it is a quick sale..... AndyLoss      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 17:47) Posted: worst case ...in case of no deal....we will have to HOLD for a much longer time..but the price we will get would always be better...
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AndyLoss Master	04-Dec-2015 17:47        AndyLoss About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	worst case ...in case of no deal....we will have to HOLD for a much longer time..but the price we will get would always be better...
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feedfrenzy Veteran	04-Dec-2015 17:46        feedfrenzy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Its impossible to contra on this for a quick buck even on CFD it is rather costly if it drags on.    Just buy what you an afford to lose bah!!!    Good luck guys!!!!!!! Limchweepoh      ( Date: 04-Dec-2015 17:35) Posted: Ever since Nol sale came to public, the trading of its share had shown certain pattern. When most think price will fly, it turned out only a small hike or even down while when most think price will collapse it fast recovered As if a invisible hand is behind it to keep the price movement range bound. Guess this is house acting on behalf of TH to do so. first to protect long term cpf investors from selling too early...& second to kick out those trader looking for quick money. Thus, we can't really say got deal or no deal with cma by looking on price movement
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