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famouspinky
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13-Sep-2016 15:47
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Mkt will always give chance. | ||||
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hlfoo2010
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13-Sep-2016 15:45
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No idea is not a crime, why sorry? apply Ah Q , save your $$$$$$.............. |
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willisow
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13-Sep-2016 15:32
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Sorry pal, Honestly speaking I have no idea how the REIT work n I have not done any research on it before. I can' t share anything with u..paiseh.. those who knows it will be good that u can share :) Thank you...  
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Hei123
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13-Sep-2016 15:12
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IR has a inverse relationship with price of bond. N I think price of REIT should similarly be affected. While a IR hike is imminent, what we r seeing in the mkt is price of REIT is stubbornly holding or not dropping as much as I hope. What' s your take on this, Willisow?  
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willisow
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13-Sep-2016 14:02
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Hey guys, M1 getting close to 10% safety margin of sgd2.43..as mentioned valuation is sgd2.70..those who interested can take note. Thanks   |
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sun233
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13-Sep-2016 13:48
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Yup. Blackout period on so everyone really just waiting for Fed. Hillary sick so market a bit jittery. 
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willisow
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13-Sep-2016 13:20
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Ok..I will face the wall n reflect deeply upon myself again :)  
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famouspinky
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13-Sep-2016 13:09
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Do the right thing will solve ur problem.
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willisow
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13-Sep-2016 13:02
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Grand Master Famouspinky,   I thought u said must trade based on trend n stock price movement, how come now become based on its business? You always waver, very confusing for me to learn from u :)  Tough life :p haha...  
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famouspinky
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13-Sep-2016 12:50
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If I talk Abt investments here, most will lose their jobs. Read on where the rich is parking their money today.( cnbc)
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famouspinky
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13-Sep-2016 12:47
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I won't invest in byd either. Haven't u read what wb mentioned on liking the business 1st? I buy businesss.
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willisow
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13-Sep-2016 12:42
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My most respected Grand Master Famouspinky, Pardon me for being disrespectful, I think u got the message wrong. The geste of the whole story is telling u about INVESTMENT n not asking u to buy Byd :) haha... :p
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famouspinky
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13-Sep-2016 11:39
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This i know. Batteries, their core isn't good. Buying their shares = go into china mkt. I won't buy their shares nor go into the mkt then.
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Hei123
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13-Sep-2016 11:37
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Mkt soooooooooooooo.... boring......... |
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willisow
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13-Sep-2016 10:55
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U r right pal, that' s the core reason y warren bought them.
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investshare
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13-Sep-2016 10:51
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If I remember correctly, the founder was in battery business. So their strength is battery.
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willisow
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13-Sep-2016 10:46
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My most respected Grand Master Famouspinky, Electric car mkt in prc is growing at an explosive rate of Trible digit per year. Not only in the prc, hk, some cities in Europe n united states, Byd is gaining foothold as well. Even sg has bought electric car for taxi n electric buses from Byd.  If u come to prc, u will see cities in the souther prc like Shenzhen, Guangzhou, xiamen n etc having their streets running with Byd electric taxis n buses..u can also see private electric car parking outside the shops, estate n etc charging their battery, very common. Prc yearly consumption of private car is more than 12 million n it' s total car population is at least 10 times it' s yearly consumption. Currently electric car sales growth is only at the very beginng stage of 200,000 unit per year. Imagin how much profit Byd can earn even if It only capture 10% of the total car population.  Dont play play :p  
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famouspinky
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13-Sep-2016 10:33
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Hws the electric car mkt in China now? Chinese then liked their branded Audis and beemers. Why not Telsa? Probably we can discuss in another tread on businesses in China.
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willisow
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13-Sep-2016 10:17
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Hi guys, Just to share about Byd, a prc automaker, the leading domestic electric car manufacturer in prc as well. In 2008 warren Buffett invested into Byd at hkd10 per share, it' s CEO n largest shareholder, Mr Wang Chuanfu commented warren Buffett was extremely conservative n squeezed him hard on the purchased price. Within the next two years, it' s price shoot up to about hkd80, fetching more than 700% return in just two years due to the warren buffet effect.
 
In 2011, the euro crisis, Byd share price plunged from its record high to a low of hkd10.92. Many prc  laugh at warren Buffett for being an idiot of not selling his shares. After 5 years from the euro crisis it
is now trading at hkd50 plus n he still made more than 400% in 8 years, which is about 50% return per
year without compounding. This is an astonishing achievement. By holding on to a stock n doing
nothing everyday n yet earn 50% per year comparing to those who spent hours interpreting macro
factors, politic n etc to the impact of their share price, this is a very simple way of making money but
yet ppl choose the tougher way.
 
as mentioned in my previous post, the most important aspect in investment is to buy at an adequate margin of safety from its valuation to protect our capital n once our money is safe over time, making profit is just a matter of time. Although warren did not sell byd during its peak due to his own reason, The price which he entered (hkd10) protected his capital when Byd stock plunge in 2011 n again he is still making good profits all these years.
 
There were many negative news n rumour when Byd prices was at low during the euro crisis. Again it is the prc who bad mouth the most about their own companies. Some said its conventional car quality is  lousy, some said electric car will never pick up in prc, some said Byd doesn' t equip with the required technology in building an electric car, etc n etc. If warren did not have a clear understanding of how this company work, he would has swayed by those negative sentiments n rumours. It is becos he has thoroughly done his home work, he continue to standby Byd even when everyone was dumping its share n not being shaken at all. This is investment.
 
those who got frighten by a 1-2% decline in the mkt n started speculating about end of the world r ppl who usually do not do their homework. It is bcos they have no idea of the company, they r easily shaken when a slightest negative news are presented to them but the funny thing is they insist not to stay out of the mkt, invest to invest, do not want to do their homework n continue to be frightened when negative news are shown upon them. Very unique mindset, very hard to understand.
thank you :)
 
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famouspinky
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13-Sep-2016 09:36
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I don't play with words neither I work with my heart.
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