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chengwh1 Elite	01-Dec-2023 00:11        chengwh1 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good evening FP,... Keppel Pacific Oak' s Geraing is below 40% or even if exceeded, it' s not far from 40%,... have not checked before I input this. Why not Keppel Pacific Oak instead of Prime ? fatpig      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 20:58) Posted: 2H2022 - Gearing Ratio 42.1%, Share price USD 0.465 3Q2023 - Gearing Ratio 43.2%, Share price USD 0.123
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chengwh1 Elite	01-Dec-2023 00:09        chengwh1 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just checked back on this thread from my hotel room,... you really took the trouble to check on me. You really have nothing better to do,... sorry, I did not take the trouble to check on the Gearing. I don' t think it' s important. I have more productive things to do than to be like you : harbouring bitterness in your heart which prompts you to put in the trouble to check on small matters like this.... have a life, man,... Look at the price now, look at comments from others in this thread after your ' LIES' input. Time will tell.   delsolvtec      ( Date: 20-Nov-2023 14:11) Posted: All i can say is : HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LIES from some people , cannot be trusted. chengwh1      ( Date: 19-Nov-2023 13:00) Posted: Just read my inputs this weekend. You are focussing on the wrong thing this time. You are ' caught' by the dividend payout which may stop if the valuation drops by,... say, 10% ? Enoughsaid abt your dividend enthusiasm here,... I will chk on the latest gearing ratio now,... and,... pls don' t call it a LIE. I am trying to conduct a discussion here. From my many postings, you would see I am a dividend investor, not a Shortist. Unless of course, you just blabbered out without checking. I accept corrections,.. but not accussations.
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fatpig Senior	30-Nov-2023 20:58        fatpig About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	2H2022 - Gearing Ratio 42.1%, Share price USD 0.465 3Q2023 - Gearing Ratio 43.2%, Share price USD 0.123
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Stocky901 Supreme	30-Nov-2023 17:04        Stocky901 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Possible if today closed at day-low. 🤔 🧐 Zhlim123      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 16:18) Posted: is the next support range $0.10 and below? Stocky901      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 14:20) Posted: Next support range 0.122 to 0.129. 🧐 🤔
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Zhlim123 Member	30-Nov-2023 16:18        Zhlim123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	is the next support range $0.10 and below? Stocky901      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 14:20) Posted: Next support range 0.122 to 0.129. 🧐 🤔 Zhlim123      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 13:26) Posted: its okay at least i am not a bagholder can lia
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Fallingman Senior	30-Nov-2023 16:13        Fallingman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I personally don't short stocks. But I think have to really keep clear first, the 0.08 mark may be re tested at this rate.
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Ryuuenji Elite	30-Nov-2023 15:35        Ryuuenji About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Another dont know how to recognise how to go home counter. See it dropped like that so shiokingly happy SGX no bullrun, its ok. Bears running also can makes money.. beauty of SGX
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Zhlim123 Member	30-Nov-2023 13:14        Zhlim123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	have to wait till 2024 as it has 4 loan expiry in 2024 + refinancing risk. but i think by 2024, the overhang on it becoming like MUST or whether it has stabilised should be clearer. The remaining 5th loan is till 2029.  checkmate      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 11:34) Posted: So Zhlim is the expert now? FYI, MUST management is still happily drawing management fees despite being " dumb" and running it into the ground. PRIME is a potential MUST, that one I agree. It has a valuation buffer of 12.9% (reported in their 3Q23 update) before hitting the 50% gearing limit. To put that buffer into context, MUST valuations fell by 14.6% from end 22 to mid 23 alone. So what kind of valuation decline do you think PRIME will get from end 22 to end 23? Caesar      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:57) Posted: Prime is unfairly targetted because of what happened to MUST. Even Zhlim has pointed out that this scenario is unlikely to happen to PRIME due to a strong sponsor. Furthermore it has not stopped its distributions to investors. After what happened to MUST, do you think management of PRIME reit is that dumb to repeat MUST's mistake
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Caesar Master	30-Nov-2023 11:58        Caesar About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Didn't say Zhlim is an expert. But you seem to be the self-proclaimed expert. Just kidding, pls don't be offended. Thanks anyway for your expert analysis 😛
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checkmate Member	30-Nov-2023 11:34        checkmate About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So Zhlim is the expert now? FYI, MUST management is still happily drawing management fees despite being " dumb" and running it into the ground. PRIME is a potential MUST, that one I agree. It has a valuation buffer of 12.9% (reported in their 3Q23 update) before hitting the 50% gearing limit. To put that buffer into context, MUST valuations fell by 14.6% from end 22 to mid 23 alone. So what kind of valuation decline do you think PRIME will get from end 22 to end 23? Caesar      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:57) Posted: Prime is unfairly targetted because of what happened to MUST. Even Zhlim has pointed out that this scenario is unlikely to happen to PRIME due to a strong sponsor. Furthermore it has not stopped its distributions to investors. After what happened to MUST, do you think management of PRIME reit is that dumb to repeat MUST's mistake? marketuncle      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:39) Posted: Because PRIME at risk to become MUST, and what is to come if that happen
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marketuncle Veteran	30-Nov-2023 11:28        marketuncle About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	All it takes is larger than expected devaluation of their properties to breach loan covenants, and at the worst case, end up like Must Caesar      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:57) Posted: Prime is unfairly targetted because of what happened to MUST. Even Zhlim has pointed out that this scenario is unlikely to happen to PRIME due to a strong sponsor. Furthermore it has not stopped its distributions to investors. After what happened to MUST, do you think management of PRIME reit is that dumb to repeat MUST's mistake? marketuncle      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:39) Posted: Because PRIME at risk to become MUST, and what is to come if that happen
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Caesar Master	30-Nov-2023 10:57        Caesar About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Prime is unfairly targetted because of what happened to MUST. Even Zhlim has pointed out that this scenario is unlikely to happen to PRIME due to a strong sponsor. Furthermore it has not stopped its distributions to investors. After what happened to MUST, do you think management of PRIME reit is that dumb to repeat MUST's mistake? marketuncle      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:39) Posted: Because PRIME at risk to become MUST, and what is to come if that happens Caesar      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:33) Posted: Thought Manulife is the one having issues. Why is Prime falling nonstop instead
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marketuncle Veteran	30-Nov-2023 10:39        marketuncle About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Because PRIME at risk to become MUST, and what is to come if that happens Caesar      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:33) Posted: Thought Manulife is the one having issues. Why is Prime falling nonstop instead? huattuatua      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 16:25) Posted: kateks made til nose bleed
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Caesar Master	30-Nov-2023 10:33        Caesar About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thought Manulife is the one having issues. Why is Prime falling nonstop instead? huattuatua      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 16:25) Posted: kateks made til nose bleed
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Stocky901 Supreme	29-Nov-2023 20:39        Stocky901 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	🤤 🤤 🤤 more to come.. huattuatua      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 16:25) Posted: kateks made til nose bleed
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huattuatua Elite	29-Nov-2023 16:25        huattuatua About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	kateks made til nose bleed
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mav1ryan Veteran	29-Nov-2023 14:43        mav1ryan About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Personally, I think MUST and Prime are animals of the same skin... Zhlim123      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 11:50) Posted: but prime might not face this scenario due to having a good sponsor marketuncle      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 11:35) Posted: MUST showing PRIME the nightmare scenario...:(
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Zhlim123 Member	29-Nov-2023 14:24        Zhlim123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	thanks for the info. for me i will wait until $0.10 before considering Stocky901      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 14:20) Posted: Next support range 0.122 to 0.129. 🧐 🤔 Zhlim123      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 13:26) Posted: its okay at least i am not a bagholder can lia
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Stocky901 Supreme	29-Nov-2023 14:20        Stocky901 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Next support range 0.122 to 0.129. 🧐 🤔 Zhlim123      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 13:26) Posted: its okay at least i am not a bagholder can liao delsolvtec      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 13:20) Posted: Wow, you seem to have ADHD . Lol pity yo
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Zhlim123 Member	29-Nov-2023 13:52        Zhlim123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	hard to say tuntun      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 13:47) Posted: Correction done?
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