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Morello Veteran	15-Mar-2017 00:25        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	you talking to me wonder?  if u are, u must not have been following
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wonder Member	15-Mar-2017 00:22        wonder About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	U want to short then short alone. Dont suggest others to short as well. U may not win this time n dont make people lose money if it suddenly goes long.
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Morello Veteran	15-Mar-2017 00:21        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	also not interested in yr explanation justinN      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 22:56) Posted: to be clear, I meant the price will drop more than 1.625c after XD.  The gearing of this APTT is damn scary.. good luck for those holding it.   Morello      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 19:04) Posted: so my ' incomplete' ' but factually correct explanation prompted an ingrate to finally look up a fact that he was obviously unaware of
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Morello Veteran	15-Mar-2017 00:14        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yah yes ur right, the coy has no fundamentals, and full of debt.  All the assets are next to worthless and no NAV to speak of. All their investments in digitization are myths.   Pls don' t buy.  In fact, I' d suggest you go short....err if need to go look up investopia or whatever for further guidance. justinN      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 21:56) Posted: What fundamentals? Its assets are all intangible assets, whereas it has 1 billion dollars+ worth of debt. The NAV is just a guesstimate of all it' s intangible assets, which who knows is worth how much, in the event TBC got liquidated.    Morello      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 15:49) Posted: won' t be surprised if it' s played up after XD as price has yet to catch up with fundamentals
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Morello Veteran	15-Mar-2017 00:09        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	TMW1986, whether he' s a shortist or not, I don' t really care.  We put our money where our mouth is as long as we are convinced of the merits.  What' s the point of trying to convince someone who has no vested interests that such and such a stock is worth buying for such and such a reason?  In the end, he may just get convinced, quietly go invest and reap the benefits after all the bad-mouthing he' s done.  TMW1986      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 22:37) Posted: You must be the one who short the 1000 lots. Lol. The management already explain on the business model and how it works. The intangible asset might worth even more when there are barriers to entry, unlike Singapore market which seems to be easier to enter. Actually if dividends drop to 4-5 cents maybe it will be better and less argument whether can sustain the dividends. So even at 45 cents still got 10% dividends. For now can see they using the IPO money to fund some of the dividends. But my mindset is if they give, why don't take? I didn't pay for the high price when APTV IPO, so now just leeching on some of the "free money". Tv business cannot use tangible asset to measure because of licensing etc. Not any company can suka suka set up the business in Taiwan one. justinN      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 21:56) Posted: What fundamentals? Its assets are all intangible assets, whereas it has 1 billion dollars+ worth of debt. The NAV is just a guesstimate of all it' s intangible assets, which who knows is worth how much, in the event TBC got liquidated.
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justinN Member	14-Mar-2017 23:44        justinN About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if you think using debt to pay dividends is free, then good for you.
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TMW1986 Master	14-Mar-2017 22:37        TMW1986 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You must be the one who short the 1000 lots. Lol. The management already explain on the business model and how it works. The intangible asset might worth even more when there are barriers to entry, unlike Singapore market which seems to be easier to enter. Actually if dividends drop to 4-5 cents maybe it will be better and less argument whether can sustain the dividends. So even at 45 cents still got 10% dividends. For now can see they using the IPO money to fund some of the dividends. But my mindset is if they give, why don't take? I didn't pay for the high price when APTV IPO, so now just leeching on some of the "free money". Tv business cannot use tangible asset to measure because of licensing etc. Not any company can suka suka set up the business in Taiwan one. justinN      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 21:56) Posted: What fundamentals? Its assets are all intangible assets, whereas it has 1 billion dollars+ worth of debt. The NAV is just a guesstimate of all it' s intangible assets, which who knows is worth how much, in the event TBC got liquidated.    Morello      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 15:49) Posted: won' t be surprised if it' s played up after XD as price has yet to catch up with fundamentals
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justinN Member	14-Mar-2017 21:56        justinN About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What fundamentals? Its assets are all intangible assets, whereas it has 1 billion dollars+ worth of debt. The NAV is just a guesstimate of all it' s intangible assets, which who knows is worth how much, in the event TBC got liquidated.    Morello      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 15:49) Posted: won' t be surprised if it' s played up after XD as price has yet to catch up with fundamentals
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Morello Veteran	14-Mar-2017 15:49        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	won' t be surprised if it' s played up after XD as price has yet to catch up with fundamentals
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TMW1986 Master	14-Mar-2017 14:40        TMW1986 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So fast Zao. Haha. APTV should be able to survive this year and next year will be a better year. :) feedfrenzy      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 13:29) Posted: danger collected his proift and run road liao :D TMW1986      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 12:27) Posted: Enter 50 lots at 46 cents. I will accumulate more after XD. Danger where are you? What is your view point
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feedfrenzy Veteran	14-Mar-2017 13:29        feedfrenzy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	danger collected his proift and run road liao :D TMW1986      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 12:27) Posted: Enter 50 lots at 46 cents. I will accumulate more after XD. Danger where are you? What is your view point? tankookoo      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 11:38) Posted: Posssible that it is being pushed down to collect dividend...tomorrow maybe not drop or drop initially and then recover... My guess is there will not be much selling as it has been paying good dividend and many will hold. Weak holders should have oreli be flushed out.
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TMW1986 Master	14-Mar-2017 12:27        TMW1986 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Enter 50 lots at 46 cents. I will accumulate more after XD. Danger where are you? What is your view point? tankookoo      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 11:38) Posted: Posssible that it is being pushed down to collect dividend...tomorrow maybe not drop or drop initially and then recover... My guess is there will not be much selling as it has been paying good dividend and many will hold. Weak holders should have oreli be flushed out.
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tankookoo Master	14-Mar-2017 11:38        tankookoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Posssible that it is being pushed down to collect dividend...tomorrow maybe not drop or drop initially and then recover... My guess is there will not be much selling as it has been paying good dividend and many will hold. Weak holders should have oreli be flushed out.
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TMW1986 Master	14-Mar-2017 11:35        TMW1986 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Danger where are you? Are you out completely already? TMW1986      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 08:35) Posted: Today last day to buy for dividends. Tml XD Liao price will drop. But who knows if got people buy and push up and support the price. TMW1986      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 08:18) Posted: Net gearing is about 47.7% but still a good and stable business model ba. Past 5 days got people shorted 1000 lots which bring down the price. They are hoping price to drop more and sell down to 40-42 cents range. The NAV for APTV is about 80 cents. Let's see next few months ba. Many REITs DPU drop but if APTV can maintain DPU definitely its share price will rise back again. For now just collect 14% dividends till things changes
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TMW1986 Master	14-Mar-2017 08:35        TMW1986 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Today last day to buy for dividends. Tml XD Liao price will drop. But who knows if got people buy and push up and support the price. TMW1986      ( Date: 14-Mar-2017 08:18) Posted: Net gearing is about 47.7% but still a good and stable business model ba. Past 5 days got people shorted 1000 lots which bring down the price. They are hoping price to drop more and sell down to 40-42 cents range. The NAV for APTV is about 80 cents. Let's see next few months ba. Many REITs DPU drop but if APTV can maintain DPU definitely its share price will rise back again. For now just collect 14% dividends till things changes. justinN      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 22:56) Posted: to be clear, I meant the price will drop more than 1.625c after XD.  The gearing of this APTT is damn scary.. good luck for those holding it.
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TMW1986 Master	14-Mar-2017 08:18        TMW1986 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Net gearing is about 47.7% but still a good and stable business model ba. Past 5 days got people shorted 1000 lots which bring down the price. They are hoping price to drop more and sell down to 40-42 cents range. The NAV for APTV is about 80 cents. Let's see next few months ba. Many REITs DPU drop but if APTV can maintain DPU definitely its share price will rise back again. For now just collect 14% dividends till things changes. justinN      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 22:56) Posted: to be clear, I meant the price will drop more than 1.625c after XD.  The gearing of this APTT is damn scary.. good luck for those holding it.   Morello      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 19:04) Posted: so my ' incomplete' ' but factually correct explanation prompted an ingrate to finally look up a fact that he was obviously unaware of
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justinN Member	13-Mar-2017 22:56        justinN About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	to be clear, I meant the price will drop more than 1.625c after XD.  The gearing of this APTT is damn scary.. good luck for those holding it.   Morello      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 19:04) Posted: so my ' incomplete' ' but factually correct explanation prompted an ingrate to finally look up a fact that he was obviously unaware of justinN      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 18:36) Posted: No thanks for helping to explain what XD means.. Investopedia does better. It' s obvious when i said " drop further" , it means more than what you just said.. LOL
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Morello Veteran	13-Mar-2017 19:04        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	so my ' incomplete' ' but factually correct explanation prompted an ingrate to finally look up a fact that he was obviously unaware of justinN      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 18:36) Posted: No thanks for helping to explain what XD means.. Investopedia does better. It' s obvious when i said " drop further" , it means more than what you just said.. LOL Morello      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 17:30) Posted: share px of any counter is automatically adjusted downwards by the same quantum as the CD to prevent people from profitting from both the CD and share px.
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justinN Member	13-Mar-2017 18:36        justinN About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No thanks for helping to explain what XD means.. Investopedia does better. It' s obvious when i said " drop further" , it means more than what you just said.. LOL Morello      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 17:30) Posted: share px of any counter is automatically adjusted downwards by the same quantum as the CD to prevent people from profitting from both the CD and share px. justinN      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 16:20) Posted: It will drop further according to past XDs... waiting for it.
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Morello Veteran	13-Mar-2017 17:30        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	share px of any counter is automatically adjusted downwards by the same quantum as the CD to prevent people from profitting from both the CD and share px. justinN      ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 16:20) Posted: It will drop further according to past XDs... waiting for it.
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