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isaacsgx Elite	07-Aug-2014 15:38        isaacsgx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, is there any specific reason for choosing 31 to short?   Why not higher than 31 leh? jackong1979      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 15:18) Posted: I shorted 27 and 31, so average still around 28. A bit profit ok alry. isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 15:04) Posted: Bro Jackong, congrates! You got the info but you shorted too early.   If you shorted at 31, you will be enjoying!
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Liverpool77 Senior	07-Aug-2014 15:27        Liverpool77 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks, Jaslyn.... jaslyn85      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 15:19) Posted: Undisclosed BVol BVol Buy Sell SVol Undisclosed SVol   6,000 0.027 0.028 5,144,000     9,840,000 0.026 0.029 13,891,000     8,213,000 0.025 0.030 20,820,000     3,552,000 0.024 0.031 23,830,000     2,938,000 0.023 0.032 15,276,000     1,637,000 0.022 0.033 13,385,000     1,015,000 0.021 0.034 5,153,000     538,000 0.020 0.035 12,000,000     683,000 0.019 0.036 1,600,000     118,000 0.018 0.037 800,000     48,000 0.017 0.038 1,550,000     48,000 0.016 0.039 50,000     48,000 0.015 0.040 1,395,000     52,000 0.014 0.042 745,000     400,000 0.010 0.045 220,000         0.049 50,000     Liverpool77      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 15:14) Posted: Any one has md for this? Thanks
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jaslyn85 Member	07-Aug-2014 15:19        jaslyn85 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Undisclosed BVol BVol Buy Sell SVol Undisclosed SVol   6,000 0.027 0.028 5,144,000     9,840,000 0.026 0.029 13,891,000     8,213,000 0.025 0.030 20,820,000     3,552,000 0.024 0.031 23,830,000     2,938,000 0.023 0.032 15,276,000     1,637,000 0.022 0.033 13,385,000     1,015,000 0.021 0.034 5,153,000     538,000 0.020 0.035 12,000,000     683,000 0.019 0.036 1,600,000     118,000 0.018 0.037 800,000     48,000 0.017 0.038 1,550,000     48,000 0.016 0.039 50,000     48,000 0.015 0.040 1,395,000     52,000 0.014 0.042 745,000     400,000 0.010 0.045 220,000         0.049 50,000     Liverpool77      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 15:14) Posted: Any one has md for this? Thanks
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jackong1979 Master	07-Aug-2014 15:18        jackong1979 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I shorted 27 and 31, so average still around 28. A bit profit ok alry. isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 15:04) Posted: Bro Jackong, congrates! You got the info but you shorted too early.   If you shorted at 31, you will be enjoying! jackong1979      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:56) Posted: Took profit Alry from shorting. Yea
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Demostation Supreme	07-Aug-2014 15:15        Demostation About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Recovering from lows, most counters and STI reduces loss to 10 points.
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Liverpool77 Senior	07-Aug-2014 15:14        Liverpool77 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Any one has md for this? Thanks
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isaacsgx Elite	07-Aug-2014 15:04        isaacsgx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro Jackong, congrates! You got the info but you shorted too early.   If you shorted at 31, you will be enjoying! jackong1979      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:56) Posted: Took profit Alry from shorting. Yeah ssw518      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:49) Posted: Bro BB got nobody to kill liao, and those long is more easy to catch than the short. Best is FIFO, go in only stock dun move better cut and ran, let the bb over play till fund comes in to kill them, then can long.
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jackong1979 Master	07-Aug-2014 14:56        jackong1979 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Took profit Alry from shorting. Yeah ssw518      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:49) Posted: Bro BB got nobody to kill liao, and those long is more easy to catch than the short. Best is FIFO, go in only stock dun move better cut and ran, let the bb over play till fund comes in to kill them, then can long. isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:44) Posted: Now you look at all the chinese stocks, PE very low! How come bo lang buay leh?
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ssw518 Supreme	07-Aug-2014 14:49        ssw518 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro BB got nobody to kill liao, and those long is more easy to catch than the short. Best is FIFO, go in only stock dun move better cut and ran, let the bb over play till fund comes in to kill them, then can long. isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:44) Posted: Now you look at all the chinese stocks, PE very low! How come bo lang buay leh? isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:36) Posted: Ok, now makes sense huh! But BB n shortist dont really look at all these ratios.   Suka suka up, then it goes up, suka suka down, it will go down.
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cronaldo270 Senior	07-Aug-2014 14:46        cronaldo270 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, I feel it' s better to avoid China stocks. Just look at Fibretech... isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:44) Posted: Now you look at all the chinese stocks, PE very low! How come bo lang buay leh? isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:36) Posted: Ok, now makes sense huh! But BB n shortist dont really look at all these ratios.   Suka suka up, then it goes up, suka suka down, it will go down.
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isaacsgx Elite	07-Aug-2014 14:44        isaacsgx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Now you look at all the chinese stocks, PE very low! How come bo lang buay leh? isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:36) Posted: Ok, now makes sense huh! But BB n shortist dont really look at all these ratios.   Suka suka up, then it goes up, suka suka down, it will go down. snowwalker      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:32) Posted: Bro, the average telecommunications industry P/E ratio in indonesia is   15 whereas the S& P 500 P/E ratio is   17.7.   If i take the PE of 15 x 0.279, i would get 4.2 cents. if S& P PE, it would be around 5 cents. Polaris should be worth at least 4 cents, got upside potential.
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isaacsgx Elite	07-Aug-2014 14:36        isaacsgx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ok, now makes sense huh! But BB n shortist dont really look at all these ratios.   Suka suka up, then it goes up, suka suka down, it will go down. snowwalker      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:32) Posted: Bro, the average telecommunications industry P/E ratio in indonesia is   15 whereas the S& P 500 P/E ratio is   17.7.   If i take the PE of 15 x 0.279, i would get 4.2 cents. if S& P PE, it would be around 5 cents. Polaris should be worth at least 4 cents, got upside potential.           isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:22) Posted: Bro, you calculation is correct.   Now compare this PE ratio with some other penny stocks and the blue chip PE ratio! " Super penny stocks" are not nice to hear! Any type of investors normally dont want to risk their money in it. Now, lets see how Polaris roadshow on the Secured Guaranteed Notes goes?
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snowwalker Member	07-Aug-2014 14:32        snowwalker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, the average telecommunications industry P/E ratio in indonesia is   15 whereas the S& P 500 P/E ratio is   17.7.   If i take the PE of 15 x 0.279, i would get 4.2 cents. if S& P PE, it would be around 5 cents. Polaris should be worth at least 4 cents, got upside potential.           isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:22) Posted: Bro, you calculation is correct.   Now compare this PE ratio with some other penny stocks and the blue chip PE ratio! " Super penny stocks" are not nice to hear! Any type of investors normally dont want to risk their money in it. Now, lets see how Polaris roadshow on the Secured Guaranteed Notes goes? snowwalker      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:03) Posted: From the annoucement, the EPS before the deal is  0.026 cents. Thus if i take 2.9 / 0.026   = 111 (PE ratio). This is very high PE??  After deal,  If i take 111 (PE before deal) multiple by EPS after deal (ie 0.279), the price will be 30 cents, which is ten time current price..wondering if i got some calculation wrong?
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isaacsgx Elite	07-Aug-2014 14:22        isaacsgx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, you calculation is correct.   Now compare this PE ratio with some other penny stocks and the blue chip PE ratio! " Super penny stocks" are not nice to hear! Any type of investors normally dont want to risk their money in it. Now, lets see how Polaris roadshow on the Secured Guaranteed Notes goes? snowwalker      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:03) Posted: From the annoucement, the EPS before the deal is  0.026 cents. Thus if i take 2.9 / 0.026   = 111 (PE ratio). This is very high PE??  After deal,  If i take 111 (PE before deal) multiple by EPS after deal (ie 0.279), the price will be 30 cents, which is ten time current price..wondering if i got some calculation wrong?     isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 12:56) Posted: Assuming Price today at 0.029 and divide by the current EPS that is your PE ratio.   Then project using their EPS estimates after the exercise.   But bauy chun one! All depends on BB and Shortist one!
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cronaldo270 Senior	07-Aug-2014 14:21        cronaldo270 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, thanks. I agree that for pennies, figures like PE etc won' t be effective. It' s all down to BBs and market sentiment. Today, despite the DOW being green, the market sentiment is poor. I dunno about this Polaris. I still hold to the belief that .028 will hold, but now it seems like it' s unlikely bravepeanut      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:10) Posted: more like 10 more pips instead of 10x hahah... Don't count like that. Those are unrelated numbers mathematically. PE is only a guide. Anything bigger than 1 is not nice (NOT REALLY A GEM ANYMORE) Remember we are playing with sgx pennies here. BB > Weak Market Sentiments > Positive Market sentiments > Numbers If the PE improves, just take it as there will be possible upside. snowwalker      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:03) Posted: From the annoucement, the EPS before the deal is  0.026 cents. Thus if i take 2.9 / 0.026   = 111 (PE ratio). This is very high PE??  After deal,  If i take 111 (PE before deal) multiple by EPS after deal (ie 0.279), the price will be 30 cents, which is ten time current price..wondering if i got some calculation wrong?
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yummysukiyaki Veteran	07-Aug-2014 14:20        yummysukiyaki About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thz again Demostation      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 11:07) Posted: And one more that I think has a good future is SUNMOON FOOD, which had just done a 100 to 1 consolidation. It is dealing in foodstuff, vegies distribution and retailing of fruits and fruit drinks. Have gone to the US to join venture with a well-known kids' drinks. Current price is 13 cents (or 1.3 cents pre-consolidation).  Company looks to turn around and have shown some signs of it.   Demostation      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 10:59) Posted: Depending on your likings, whether pennies or mid caps, and whether for dividends or speculation (contra profits). I am looking at Weiye, a penny property stock which came down from 10 cents not long ago, and is only less then 5 cents today. I got in yesterday at 44, and hope to hold until 52.
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yummysukiyaki Veteran	07-Aug-2014 14:19        yummysukiyaki About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thz n noted Demostation      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 10:59) Posted: Depending on your likings, whether pennies or mid caps, and whether for dividends or speculation (contra profits). I am looking at Weiye, a penny property stock which came down from 10 cents not long ago, and is only less then 5 cents today. I got in yesterday at 44, and hope to hold until 52.   yummysukiyaki      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 10:49) Posted: Any good stocks u have in mind besides this one?
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bravepeanut Senior	07-Aug-2014 14:10        bravepeanut About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	more like 10 more pips instead of 10x hahah... Don't count like that. Those are unrelated numbers mathematically. PE is only a guide. Anything bigger than 1 is not nice (NOT REALLY A GEM ANYMORE) Remember we are playing with sgx pennies here. BB > Weak Market Sentiments > Positive Market sentiments > Numbers If the PE improves, just take it as there will be possible upside. snowwalker      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 14:03) Posted: From the annoucement, the EPS before the deal is  0.026 cents. Thus if i take 2.9 / 0.026   = 111 (PE ratio). This is very high PE??  After deal,  If i take 111 (PE before deal) multiple by EPS after deal (ie 0.279), the price will be 30 cents, which is ten time current price..wondering if i got some calculation wrong?     isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 12:56) Posted: Assuming Price today at 0.029 and divide by the current EPS that is your PE ratio.   Then project using their EPS estimates after the exercise.   But bauy chun one! All depends on BB and Shortist one!
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cronaldo270 Senior	07-Aug-2014 14:06        cronaldo270 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I  see. So basically for those who got stuck, their best option to profit is to hold, as won' t up during contra period? isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 12:56) Posted: Assuming Price today at 0.029 and divide by the current EPS that is your PE ratio.   Then project using their EPS estimates after the exercise.   But bauy chun one! All depends on BB and Shortist one! snowwalker      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 12:48) Posted: Hi Issacsgx, Pardon me as i dun know the calculation. Appreciate it if you could show the calculation and estimated price using the estimated PE etc. thanks in you.   cheers
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snowwalker Member	07-Aug-2014 14:03        snowwalker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	From the annoucement, the EPS before the deal is  0.026 cents. Thus if i take 2.9 / 0.026   = 111 (PE ratio). This is very high PE??  After deal,  If i take 111 (PE before deal) multiple by EPS after deal (ie 0.279), the price will be 30 cents, which is ten time current price..wondering if i got some calculation wrong?     isaacsgx      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 12:56) Posted: Assuming Price today at 0.029 and divide by the current EPS that is your PE ratio.   Then project using their EPS estimates after the exercise.   But bauy chun one! All depends on BB and Shortist one! snowwalker      ( Date: 07-Aug-2014 12:48) Posted: Hi Issacsgx, Pardon me as i dun know the calculation. Appreciate it if you could show the calculation and estimated price using the estimated PE etc. thanks in you.   cheers
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