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21-Jun-2014 00:40
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Agree with you. It is not time to buy in now, but can add in watching list
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20-Jun-2014 22:46
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China fish ranges among the global top 3 players and yet funds are not buying. Need to be cautious here. For me, not the time to buy yet. |
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20-Jun-2014 21:26
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The article quoted  is shown here www.lenfestocean.org/sites/default/.../peruvian_anchovies_eng_web.pdf Could not get any supporting figures from the report that it  is  referring to Anchovy or just general seafood as a whole or  if it referring to fish catch at sea or those fish from aqua-culture farms.  It is true that fish on the table for consumption  is more valuable and have been  consumed more than fish  used for fishmeal production. But the report did not point out  Anchovy fish is being serve more on the table than those  used  for fishmeal production.  It is believe that  Anchovy fish is more for fishmeal production whereas the other type of fish such as salmons,  tuna are more for the table  although the report is saying that Anchovy fish can also be served or may be  more valuable than for fishmeal production. Presently,  still finding data to dicipher the report..  just guessing that Anchovy fish is 10% for the table and 90% for fishmeal production.       |
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20-Jun-2014 19:03
Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !" |
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Revenue Flow in the Peruvian Fishing Sector. " A new economic study shows that seafood for human consumption generates most of the revenue in the fisheries sector."
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JMS213
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20-Jun-2014 18:56
Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !" |
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Hello .... Study shows Peruvian fish worth more as food than as feed. All is well .... enjoy
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20-Jun-2014 13:56
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If it is just Copeinca,  2nd largest,    losing money,  it may be due to poor management but if the 3rd largest and the 5th largest also losing money and hoping to get out of the businesses,  it is industrial wide,  signalling something is very wrong... hopefully,  CF can turn the table around... but I doubt it as this is vicious cycle caused by higher and higher fishmeal price is outside the control of CF.
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20-Jun-2014 13:35
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In this case, why do they want to risk to spend nearly a billion USD to buy over Copeinca when there might be better choice available?
Understand that their primary fishery business in Russia is under immerse treat
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20-Jun-2014 13:25
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The fear is not in CPF dropping the fishmeal as a feed in shrimp farms.. it is everyone in the World doing the same thing as can be seen from this chart which shows that the fishmeal production dropped from 3.5 mil tons in 1993 to  less than 1.0 mil tons in 2014.. at the same time,  the aqua-culture produces have increase about 7 folds.  The demands for fishmeal in China has stagnant.  The alternative feeds,  doing away with fishmeal,  is now killing the fishmeal industry and the fishmeal price increases,  caused by El-Nino,  will only aggreviate the transition unless someone can break the vicious cycle.  
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20-Jun-2014 09:34
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Don' t hold the anchovies: Study shows Peruvian fish worth more as food than as feedMedia Release | November 13, 2013
Rethinking the potential of anchovies could pay big dividends for the Peruvian fishing industry. Photo: Paul Asman and Jill Lenoble, Wikimedia Commons.
The true potential of Peruvian anchovy lies not in fishmeal but as food for people and as part of the ocean food web, according to Canadian and Peruvian researchers. The Peruvian anchovy is the world' s biggest fishery resource, with annual landings of five to 10-million metric tons. It generates up to one-third of the world' s fishmeal supply. But a new study reveals the bulk of the revenue and employment comes from producing the seafood for human consumption. " Anchovy accounts for upwards of 80 per cent of Peruvian landings by weight, but it' s only responsible for 31 per cent of the sector' s revenue," says Villy Christensen, a professor in the University of British Columbia Fisheries Centre. " It hasn' t lived up to its true economic value because almost all of it is ground up for low-value fish oil or fishmeal."
Fishing in Peru is often associated with industrial-scale catch of anchovies. (Photo: Patricia Majluf) Christensen and colleagues at the Centre for Environmental Sustainability (CSA) at Cayetano Heredia University in Peru calculated the economic impact of anchovy and other Peruvian fisheries. They found that artisanal fishers, wholesalers, markets and restaurants generated US$2.4 billion per year, or 69 per cent of total revenue. Meanwhile, the fishmeal industry generated only $1.1 billion, or 31 per cent of revenue. Similarly, of all the jobs supported by fishing in Peru, more than 80 per cent were part of the seafood industry. Details are published in the current issue of the journal Marine Policy. " Current Peruvian regulations only allow anchovy caught by artisanal or small boats to be used for human consumption, forcing the majority of the landings to be exported as fishmeal," says Patricia Majluf, CSA Director and the project' s Peruvian lead. Video: Prof. Patricia Majluf summarizes findings of the study. (Video en españ ol) " There are far more economic and food security benefits to Peru to channel fisheries for human consumption," adds Majluf, who launched a campaign in 2006 to encourage Peruvian chefs to incorporate anchovy on their menus. " We need to reform our laws to allow anchovy fishery to reach its full economic potential." |
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20-Jun-2014 08:58
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Recalled someone posted about " A new economic study shows that seafood for human consumption generates most of the revenue in the fisheries sector." If for human consumption, prices will continue to go higher and higher. 
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20-Jun-2014 08:14
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Peru' s first  industrial fishing season will start next Monday,  June 23 and will run till the end of September this year in the Southern Part of Peru.  The  early start of the season is a good news however the  total allowable catch (TAC)   for this  first anchovy season of 2014 is a shocker.  The TAC   in the country&rsquo s south region at 234,300 metric tons, a 45% decrease from the last season quota. As for the  season for the North Central Part of Peru,  the fish catch was poor.  By June 11, industry players said  only 36% of the anchovy&rsquo s total allowable catch had been caught. http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2014/06/19/sharp-anchovy-quota-cut-in-south-peru-raises-fishmeal-players-concerns/ |
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20-Jun-2014 08:12
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This is normal. If they don' t drop the fish meal, then I worry. CP shrimp wantons in NTUC sell so cheap, can still afford to use premium shrimp feed?
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20-Jun-2014 08:01
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Charoen Pokphand Foods (CPF),  the largest buyer of fishmeal in Thailand re-affirmed its target to drop fishmeal from its feed for the shrimp farms by 2020.    CPF claimed that it has developed protein  substitutes that could be used  to replace the fishmeal. CPF has reduced the ratio of the fishmeal in its feed and the ratio had fallen from levels of 30-35% in 2001, to around 10%. However, until then CPF preferred to help the fishermen that supplied the fish for the fishmeal by paying them higher for the fish catch in order to sustain the fishing industry in Thailand. http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2014/06/13/cp-foods-responds-we-could-walk-away-from-fishmeal-or-use-our-weight-to-drive-progress/   |
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19-Jun-2014 19:19
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One day pple will believe you but not now.. there are 2 more other Peruvian fishing companies losing money  and still  offering for sale with no taker.  Will wait till after the storm is over.. |
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19-Jun-2014 10:39
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Believe me..... Long more if it is within your means and risk... Enjoy... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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19-Jun-2014 09:45
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Fishmeal price up,  yes.. Demands up???? |
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19-Jun-2014 09:27
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This is the latest report, fishmeal price has been increasing weekly from week 21, 22, 23.  When statistics are pulled out for comparison, we have to have peripheral facts to know why they are doing it or trying to justify ? Futhermore it is based on average.  Informations are covered and averaged. Should provide the full report on the chart else it is misleading.  Let' s look at the currently, as it is figure. Prices of fishmeal has gone up sharply as demand is UP.   
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19-Jun-2014 09:03
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typo:  for example,  they stocked up record storage end of 2013 when the price was only  USD$1,500 per ton |
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19-Jun-2014 08:53
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Just in case someone missed the earlier article on whether the fishmeal will peak.. here is a picture of fishmeal price  showing the declining price trend for the last 4 years.  This is because the Chinese are getting smarter and smarter.  They buy and stock up fishmeal when the price was low   for example,  they stocked up record storage end of 2003 when the price was only  USD$1,500 per ton. Therefore,  likely that the  fishmeal price might not peak  and there might be a reduced  sale..  
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19-Jun-2014 00:24
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Like I said  " Peru is an emerging, market oriented  economy characterized by a high level of foreign trade. Peruvian economic performance has been tied to exports and  one of their main export is fishmeal."   It is in the interest of the Ministry to extend the 5 - 10 miles limits for the fishing industries. With the recent report on " China Peruvian Fishmeal RMB Price is going higher and higher Report Week 21, 22, 23."   Let' s see how the market will perform. Enjoy Fishing and Soccer .... 
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Agree with you. It is not time to buy in now, but can add in watching list



