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nea03177
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10-Dec-2013 13:22
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I suspect too. To meet 88% free float before FCL listing.
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Markie
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10-Dec-2013 10:24
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Probable sell by TCC? | ||||
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WanSiTong
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10-Dec-2013 09:21
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Wow........ married deal 36 mil+   |
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Markie
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09-Dec-2013 14:17
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Scoop of the Day: F&N has raised its buyout offer to remaining bondholders as it seeks certain concessions ahead of a business restructuring involving a spinoff of its property division. For the $108.25 million of 5.5 per cent notes due 2016, it raised its offer to redeem the bonds at par plus 6.5 per cent and accrued interest, from its earlier offer of par plus 2.75 per cent and accrued interest. For the $200 million of 6 per cent notes due 2019, it raised its early redemption offer to par plus 9 per cent and accrued interest, from par plus 3 per cent and accrued interest. Noteholders who accept the proposals before the business close of Dec 16 will receive an additional early-bird fee of 50 basis points, and a bondholders' meeting to vote on the proposals will take place on Dec 23. The sweetened offer is likely to get the buy-in of remaining bondholders, in our view, enabling the company to avoid a strategic default and clearing the coast for the listing of its property division, Fraser Centerpoint Limited (FCL). The demerger will be carried out by way of a 2-for-1 free distribution of FCL to its shareholders. We see F&N as a restructuring play with prospects of narrowing its NAV discount with the spinoff of its property division, with additional drivers from synergies derived with ThaiBev and TCC Assets on the F&B and property fronts, respectively. Our SOTP valuation of $6.70/share, based on a valuation of SGD3.83 for FCL (pegged to 25% discount to RNAV) and SGD2.86 for the beverage and nonproperty business, offers 17% upside from current levels. (Goh Han Peng) | ||||
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08-Dec-2013 00:23
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I predict MetalTrader is all talk and no play I predict MetalTrader just know how to predict I predict MetalTrader will stop predicting I predict and I predict........and then I predict  
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WanSiTong
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07-Dec-2013 22:05
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星 狮 提 高 两 个 债 券 系 列 赎 回 条 件   2013年 12月 07日   星 狮 集 团 ( F& N) 终 于 提 高 了 两 个 债 券 系 列 的 赎 回 条 件 。 这 家 多 元 业 务 集 团 将 在 本 月 23日 ( 星 期 一 ) , 重 新 召 开 会 议 , 以 表 决 在 上 个 月 中 被 债 券 持 有 人 否 决 掉 的 两 个 债 券 系 列 。 星 狮 集 团 现 在 建 议 , 原 本 在 2016年 到 期 、 票 息 率 为 5.5% 的 第 9系 列 票 据 , 将 以 相 等 于 债 券 面 值 的 106.5% 来 赎 回 。 至 于 原 本 在 2019年 到 期 、 票 息 率 为 6% 的 第 10系 列 票 据 , 将 以 相 等 于 债 券 面 值 的 109% 来 赎 回 。 星 狮 集 团 昨 天 在 文 告 中 说 , 第 9系 列 票 据 会 议 将 在 当 日 早 上 10时 召 开 , 第 10系 列 票 据 则 在 11时 召 开 。 如 果 债 券 持 有 人 在 本 月 16日 之 前 接 受 有 关 赎 回 条 件 , 还 能 获 得 额 外 0.5% 的 提 早 接 受 付 款 。 这 起 最 近 闹 得 沸 沸 扬 扬 的 事 件 , 涉 及 星 狮 总 值 8亿 零 825万 元 未 到 期 债 券 。 星 狮 计 划 将 星 狮 地 产 ( Frasers Centrepoint) 分 拆 上 市 , 为 避 免 因 此 造 成 技 术 性 违 约 , 所 以 要 求 债 券 持 有 人 支 持 它 修 改 债 券 条 款 。 星 狮 集 团 的 六 个 系 列 债 券 , 已 经 通 过 了 四 个 , 其 余 两 个 , 即 第 9和 10系 列 却 遭 到 债 券 持 有 人 在 上 月 中 否 决 。 这 主 要 是 因 为 一 些 债 券 持 有 人 指 出 , 该 批 债 券 的 市 价 可 达 109% , 但 赎 回 条 件 却 只 是 相 等 于 债 券 面 值 的 103% 。   |
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MetalTrader
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07-Dec-2013 15:28
Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tomorrow! ~ PredictorX" |
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As forecasted 1 month ago, this prediction regarding bondholder issue had come true. In 29 Nov meeting with bondholders, the fact had come true in which bond issue resolved. F& N paid the 2 bondholder series who disagree by Full Amount and Interests. The debate with teeth had proven, in which my forecast had been actualized.
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MetalTrader
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07-Dec-2013 15:24
Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tomorrow! ~ PredictorX" |
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As forecasted nearly 1 month ago, 1 F& N + 2 FCL 's value is certainly to be more than $6.      In which, the dispute today is somewhere near the trendline i forecasted. 
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nea03177
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07-Dec-2013 14:05
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Hahaha! I thought I am the only one checking SGX for the figures. Didn't know how to put across my analysis. Luckily got brother Toiletsiao. I analysed Mr Charoen's takeover. After initial 0.12, div, 3.28 cap reduction, 0.035 div , and future0.12 div, his nett cost is $5.99.
No hard work, no gains.
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WanSiTong
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07-Dec-2013 13:17
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Spend one whole morning just for 1 counter........ Pei Tang.........lol
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WanSiTong
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07-Dec-2013 12:51
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  I just want to figure out what can an existing F& N shareholder get after the listing of FCL. Ok........ now I realize that I read the wrong file (3rd File in Listing)........ Tks for the clarification. |
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toiletsiao
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07-Dec-2013 12:11
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FNN's total share float is about 1448mil now...for every 1 FNN share we will be entitled to 2 FCL shares hence FCL's total share float upon listing is 1448 mil x 2 Pls read FNN's latest financial statement the exact number of float that FNN has is 1,441,523,536 shares... currently FNN holds about 753mil FCL shares now...in order to distribute to FNN shareholders the ratio of 2 FCL for every 1 FNN ... FNN will capitalise FCL and FCL will issue about 2.1 billion more shares on top of the 753mil FCL shares that FNN currently holds now bringing the total FCL float to appoximately 2.9 billion... http://www.fraserandneave.com/contentview.aspx?article_id=4028  --> pls load the correct document...according to FNN's Q4 results (2nd file in listing) they have about 1441mil shares.. the 753 mil is FCL's Q4(3rd File in Listing)... why do u keep insisting that 753mil is FNN's float? the 50 mil that FCL is proposing to distribute post listing should be calculated as 50mil/(new float) of FCL but based on your calculation  $ 50m / 753(old float) =  6.637c   --> the demominator u used is inaccurate... in reality it should be about 1.7cents per FCL share but based on your calculation its 6.637 cents    |
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WanSiTong
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07-Dec-2013 11:02
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To correct the below posting:   I would like to say that my earlier computation is based on the No. of  F& N shares and assume that F& N will not hold any of the FCL shares after the distribution..... which is tally with the fig. stated in the FCL circular Immediately prior to the Corporate Restructuring .
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WanSiTong
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07-Dec-2013 10:51
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Sorry Bro....... This is my problem... I want to get thing right.....Based on the F& N FY financial report ,  total number of issued ordinary shares as at 30 September 2013  is 753,291,782 . Where/how did you get the fig. of 1448 m har?
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WanSiTong
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07-Dec-2013 10:05
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753,291,782 is also the F& N float
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WanSiTong
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07-Dec-2013 09:56
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753M shares is the current FCL float before the capital restructuring......
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WanSiTong
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07-Dec-2013 09:48
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I would like to say that my earlier computation is based on the No. of shares held by F& N and assume that F& N will not hold any of the FCL shares after the distribution..... which is tally with the fig. stated in the FCL circular Immediately prior to the Corporate Restructuring . | ||||
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WanSiTong
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07-Dec-2013 09:42
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Cannot .....have to check.......everyone have to DYODD
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WanSiTong
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07-Dec-2013 09:39
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No wrong &   no right......... lol.... What I meant is becos F& N SH will get 2FCL, if he still hold the FCL shares after the listing, eventually he will get the FCL dividend (After FCL listing he is the SH of both F& N and FCL lah.........)
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nea03177
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07-Dec-2013 09:38
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Really Wan Si Tong- But post earlier then we no need to check. Now the picture is clear. A very good morning!
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