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Ligaya
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21-Feb-2024 12:52     
 
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 Alert Admin 		If not wrong aside impairments aftermath, also were partial redemption of MCBs with last batch due 2025? Wondering when is the next re-rating...dyodd

Ligaya      ( Date: 26-Nov-2020 11:28) Posted:

Am not an financial engineer in this bond algorithm but I do understand Temasek has the strategic interest to buy time and 40% of the unsubscribed issue was taken by Temasek. The way this bond is restructured to retailers seems a novel way of  national JV-bond  between government and retail subscribers, with the full backing of government picking up remaining tabs so should have no doubt on SIA defaulting.  Isn' t the bond issue collateralized with the outstanding shares at the whims of SIA to redeem with no interest payable for the first 4 years and subsequent 4% from year 4, compounded to 6% end of 10-yr term?  The mechanism of this bond seems to buy time so the question is will SIA redeem before maturity and if so, still impact on dilution?

Bic_cherry      ( Date: 26-Nov-2020 10:09) Posted:

It's a bond, not share dear, SIA liquidation, shareholders lose their pants first. Bond holders get paid proceeds before everyone else. (Other forum mere, can pls fill in the blanks about which other creditors (besides this holding aeroplanes as collateral), can retrieve their funds first, SIA customers with air tickets reserved?). https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/sia-raises-500-million-via-private-placement-of-10-year-bond
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RL16EGG
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21-Feb-2024 12:17     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Noted nav dropped from 6.68 to 5.24 and there was an earnings missed, 0.16 vs 0.22.
The big boys seemingly do not like it.
At current price 6.74, nav 5.24 will give p/b 1.29 (trading range1-1.39). Less expensive ?
6.4 offers some support but difficult la with ah gong right behind.
Its is noteworthy that adjusted nav improved  from 3.72 to 4.19 and china is opening up.
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wait4opp
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21-Feb-2024 12:01     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Today FMs pull out the fund from SIA due to below market expectations.

Now the trend is broken the golden cross @ $6.75, confirmed downtrend. Next support at $6.40, good luck for those who are holding.

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112233
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21-Feb-2024 11:58     
 
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 Alert Admin 		maybe should post earnings down 4.9% to see a 8.5% increase in SP. post earnings up, SP drops. haha. 

FATABA      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 11:51) Posted:

SIA Q3 earnings up 4.9% to S$659 million as North Asia markets fully reopen to robust passenger demand



MAINBOARD-LISTED  Singapore Airlines : C6L -8.41%  (SIA) on Tuesday (Feb 20) recorded a net profit of S$659 million for the third quarter ended Dec 31, 2023, rising 4.9 per cent from S$628 million in the corresponding year-ago period.

This was driven by robust passenger demand, led by a rebound in North Asian markets as China, Hong Kong, Japan and Taiwan reopened, said the group in its Q3 business update.

The rise in net profit was also aided by a lower tax expense, a share of profits from associated companies, surplus on disposal of aircraft, spares and spare engines, and higher net interest income.

The net profit figure translates to an earnings per share (EPS) of S$0.16 in Q3 FY2024, up from S$0.103 year on year.

Revenue for the third quarter also increased by 4.9 per cent, to S$5.1 billion from S$4.8 billion yoy.

This surpassed the S$5 billion mark in quarterly revenue for the first time in SIA&rsquo s history, the group said in the filing.

The revenue gain was due to high passenger demand, as passenger flown revenue climbed 10.6 per cent to S$4.2 billion, despite a 7.4 per cent decline in passenger yields to S$0.112 passenger-km.

The group&rsquo s operating profit, however, decreased 19.3 per cent to S$609 million, from S$755 million in Q3 FY2023. This was due to total expenditure increasing by 9.3 per cent to S$4.5 billion, as non-fuel expenditure and net fuel cost both booked gains.

For the nine months ended Dec 31, 2023, the group&rsquo s net profit rose 35 per cent to a record S$2.1 billion from S$1.6 billion. Revenue for nine-month FY2024 reached S$14.2 billion, expanding 7.4 per cent from S$13.3 billion yoy.

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beng1102
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21-Feb-2024 11:56     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Everydays' share price is unpredictable but I think this one share recover back above 6.85 today.

FATABA      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 11:31) Posted:

If it is a fund out , wonder how big it is to cause such a big drop of over 8% . Show only one large giant deal on opening at 6.70 
Certainly meant to push this down that far ....but since then NO other major married deal . 
So I wonder what is really the reason for the drop esp the result is ok . 
DYODD

Ligaya      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 11:23) Posted:

After previous post covid major impairment exercises, the birds are ahead of most competitors to hedge their operating costs. Morning gap down if funds rotation shld be re-rated eventually...dyod
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FATABA
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21-Feb-2024 11:51     
 
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SIA Q3 earnings up 4.9% to S$659 million as North Asia markets fully reopen to robust passenger demand



MAINBOARD-LISTED  Singapore Airlines : C6L -8.41%  (SIA) on Tuesday (Feb 20) recorded a net profit of S$659 million for the third quarter ended Dec 31, 2023, rising 4.9 per cent from S$628 million in the corresponding year-ago period.

This was driven by robust passenger demand, led by a rebound in North Asian markets as China, Hong Kong, Japan and Taiwan reopened, said the group in its Q3 business update.

The rise in net profit was also aided by a lower tax expense, a share of profits from associated companies, surplus on disposal of aircraft, spares and spare engines, and higher net interest income.

The net profit figure translates to an earnings per share (EPS) of S$0.16 in Q3 FY2024, up from S$0.103 year on year.

Revenue for the third quarter also increased by 4.9 per cent, to S$5.1 billion from S$4.8 billion yoy.

This surpassed the S$5 billion mark in quarterly revenue for the first time in SIA&rsquo s history, the group said in the filing.

The revenue gain was due to high passenger demand, as passenger flown revenue climbed 10.6 per cent to S$4.2 billion, despite a 7.4 per cent decline in passenger yields to S$0.112 passenger-km.

The group&rsquo s operating profit, however, decreased 19.3 per cent to S$609 million, from S$755 million in Q3 FY2023. This was due to total expenditure increasing by 9.3 per cent to S$4.5 billion, as non-fuel expenditure and net fuel cost both booked gains.

For the nine months ended Dec 31, 2023, the group&rsquo s net profit rose 35 per cent to a record S$2.1 billion from S$1.6 billion. Revenue for nine-month FY2024 reached S$14.2 billion, expanding 7.4 per cent from S$13.3 billion yoy.
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FATABA
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21-Feb-2024 11:31     
 
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 Alert Admin 		If it is a fund out , wonder how big it is to cause such a big drop of over 8% . Show only one large giant deal on opening at 6.70 
Certainly meant to push this down that far ....but since then NO other major married deal . 
So I wonder what is really the reason for the drop esp the result is ok . 
DYODD

Ligaya      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 11:23) Posted:

After previous post covid major impairment exercises, the birds are ahead of most competitors to hedge their operating costs. Morning gap down if funds rotation shld be re-rated eventually...dyodd

seanpent      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 10:00) Posted:

yes
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beng1102
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21-Feb-2024 11:26     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Yes.  Best time for short covering.

Ligaya      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 10:56) Posted:

this gap down could be rare opportunity to add on...shorts will need to cover. Re-rating the birds in the cards
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Ligaya
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21-Feb-2024 11:23     
 
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 Alert Admin 		After previous post covid major impairment exercises, the birds are ahead of most competitors to hedge their operating costs. Morning gap down if funds rotation shld be re-rated eventually...dyodd

seanpent      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 10:00) Posted:

yes

FATABA      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 09:37) Posted:

SIA is definately on the path to recovery and load factor is stable . Fuel cost is main factor and SIA is now new to managing this /hedge. 
W China opening and increasing travel from India ....2 major areas , SIA should be on path to recovery . latest qtr result have shown . 

Again seem like some BB is pushing it down ....and I dont see why except short term profit . Many houses will be offering their analysis soon .
I think it will recover from this 60c down . DYODD

 
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BinderyT
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21-Feb-2024 11:17     
 
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 Alert Admin 		why those idiots keep adding to sell at 6.75......   can' t they see there are little sellers at 6.77 and above
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wlkon8
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21-Feb-2024 11:16     
 
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 Alert Admin 		q-ing half at 6.6 and other half  at 6.45.smiley

long term investment, long term wait. 
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BinderyT
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21-Feb-2024 11:15     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Yeap.   There' s a ton of buyers at 6.70.   Huge wall.

ThroneKingdom      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 11:02) Posted:

6.70 is the lowest

Ligaya      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 10:56) Posted:

this gap down could be rare opportunity to add on...shorts will need to cover. Re-rating the birds in the cards
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ThroneKingdom
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21-Feb-2024 11:02     
 
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 Alert Admin 		6.70 is the lowest

Ligaya      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 10:56) Posted:

this gap down could be rare opportunity to add on...shorts will need to cover. Re-rating the birds in the cards
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Ligaya
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21-Feb-2024 10:56     
 
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 Alert Admin 		this gap down could be rare opportunity to add on...shorts will need to cover. Re-rating the birds in the cards
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BinderyT
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21-Feb-2024 10:55     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Got half at 6.72 and half at 6.73
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kt3152
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21-Feb-2024 10:47     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Added 673 too early 673....
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stockbel
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21-Feb-2024 10:38     
 
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 Alert Admin 		oh no i got in at 6.82.
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ThroneKingdom
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21-Feb-2024 10:36     
 
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 Alert Admin 		This is a long term investment stock

BinderyT      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 10:33) Posted:

lol ... ok, listen to you guys.   I queued at 6.71.   Hope I don' t regret this :)
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BinderyT
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21-Feb-2024 10:33     
 
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 Alert Admin 		lol ... ok, listen to you guys.   I queued at 6.71.   Hope I don' t regret this :)
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BinderyT
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21-Feb-2024 10:25     
 
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 Alert Admin 		6.70 looks like the bottom for today.   But if it breaks ...

beng1102      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 10:19) Posted:

It is going to u turn back very soon and likely today.    So buy now would be very profitable.

BinderyT      ( Date: 21-Feb-2024 10:17) Posted:

Selling pressure is still high and price is still trending lower.   Aiya, wait a while.   Not like the stock will suddenly bounce back overnight
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