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ehclim Elite	14-Feb-2017 19:19        ehclim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Well, good luck to those who still believe in Ezra. alishan      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 19:13) Posted: Ezra is too big too fail !   If it goes bankrupt, it will bring down DBS, OCBC, UOB and other lenders. Job loss will be so huge so how MOM can solve this?   Kopitiam will be closed down bcos all employees no longer dine there.   KTV no more business.   All sectors in our economy will be dragged down by Ezra.   Gov needs to bail out Ezra.   $1B debt is chap chap sway for the gov.   SG gov is very rich.
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alishan Senior	14-Feb-2017 19:13        alishan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ezra is too big too fail !   If it goes bankrupt, it will bring down DBS, OCBC, UOB and other lenders. Job loss will be so huge so how MOM can solve this?   Kopitiam will be closed down bcos all employees no longer dine there.   KTV no more business.   All sectors in our economy will be dragged down by Ezra.   Gov needs to bail out Ezra.   $1B debt is chap chap sway for the gov.   SG gov is very rich.
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ehclim Elite	14-Feb-2017 19:05        ehclim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No earning no corporate tax. alishan      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 18:55) Posted: Wrong order lah.   Gov tax must be settled first, before everybody else.   There are only 2 certain things in life:   TAX & DEATH !!   ehclim      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 18:51) Posted: Most of the banks' loan are collateral. By the way, Ezra had pledged about 65% of their Triyards shares to DBS for the collateral loans. The order of payment in case the company goes burst is employees' salary trade payables to suppliers and contractors banks' loans, bonds and notes etc. Last is shareholders.
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pinkowl Supreme	14-Feb-2017 18:38        pinkowl About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I dun visit this thread often. But I have seen warnings being given on and off. Think not gloating or commenting on hindsight. It won't make us happy that people are losing their savings. However, the signs were clear since a long while ago. Hope the halt turns into something less frightening. Good luck. ahhuat08      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 18:00) Posted: In all honesty, if u were vested prior to the 1st halt ie trading above 48, when the halt was lifted, those who were vested, do u reasonably think that its so easy to cut. Sometimes, its really not so easy to make decision especially if u r heavily vested. All traders bot before the 1st halt was thinking of since its quite " cheap" as such they would buy on the hope that there could be a turnaround in this ailing company. However, the writedowns by the partners and the impairment by Ezra themselves were really the final straw that broke the camel' s back. Who would have thought the repercussion of Ezra' s debts and its partners revealation of 600 over million write down and the 1 billion NPL by the local banks. Seriously, if u r not insider, no one would have known it. And its dam easy to comment on hindsight. Even the jv partners have not really carried out due diligence with open books, let alone,traders like us. And i wont be surprised alot of BBs were caught red handed this time round. I have said my piece, my intention is not to gloat over other' s misfortune, its just that, investing in stock and shares, the first rule you must strictly adhere to is , once u sense something is wrong, run run run and run, cut loss cut loss and cut loss. Then u have some chance of surviving in this ruthless world of stock investment. Nuff said.   NextEvolution      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 17:44) Posted: Now many regretted not cutting loss when it was traded after lifting halt last week with price as high as 3.3 for 2 days before the plunge to 2.4 All the red flags are there yet many are still hoping for some miracles to happen
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ehclim Elite	14-Feb-2017 18:29        ehclim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How does the government help with such a huge debts. Who money? Tax payers money? How to justify? How many jobs can it saves? ysh2006      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 18:15) Posted: Govt will help they said it last month...don't "say big small eye"...combine all small can be one big leh"". . Wind22i      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 17:35) Posted: It seems like its in some serious deep shit..
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risktaker Supreme	14-Feb-2017 18:28        risktaker About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	U can always recover from other stocks.... There are sectors that are going to be the future....Oil & Gas is in downtrend....lithium sector is growing and this is the only begining.... Please look at Apple trade only 10s in early 2000 and it shoot up to 700 :) and split... There are certain stocks that will rocket higher... and higher.... Theres still hope :) risktaker      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 14:14) Posted: Ok let me spoon feed u guys 1 last time.... Why sector will consolidate... 1) oil price was high in 2011 to 2014.... means oil producer make money... contractors such as ezra that provide services can make money... 2) oil price went down as economy dampen and alternative energy took hold.... contractors such as ezra beginning to feel pain in 2014 as oil producer cut back spending...therefore use to be regulars become once a while or even decided not to use ezra anymore... 3) oil demand went down becos economy and alternative energy especially with the electric vehicle that is popping out all over the world... I see no reason why ezra can survive ... really...
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ysh2006 Supreme	14-Feb-2017 18:15        ysh2006 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Govt will help they said it last month...don't "say big small eye"...combine all small can be one big leh"". . Wind22i      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 17:35) Posted: It seems like its in some serious deep shit..
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ehclim Elite	14-Feb-2017 18:12        ehclim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I had about 200k at average price of 11 cents on hand. I added another 650k at average price of 2.8 cents after the lifting then I saw the BBs are slowly unloading from 2.8 cents down to 2.5 cents then I cut loss altogether at average price at about 2.65 cents. I incurred a total lost of about $25k. I knew there was no hope on this counter then I move on to another counter. ahhuat08      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 18:00) Posted: In all honesty, if u were vested prior to the 1st halt ie trading above 48, when the halt was lifted, those who were vested, do u reasonably think that its so easy to cut. Sometimes, its really not so easy to make decision especially if u r heavily vested. All traders bot before the 1st halt was thinking of since its quite " cheap" as such they would buy on the hope that there could be a turnaround in this ailing company. However, the writedowns by the partners and the impairment by Ezra themselves were really the final straw that broke the camel' s back. Who would have thought the repercussion of Ezra' s debts and its partners revealation of 600 over million write down and the 1 billion NPL by the local banks. Seriously, if u r not insider, no one would have known it. And its dam easy to comment on hindsight. Even the jv partners have not really carried out due diligence with open books, let alone,traders like us. And i wont be surprised alot of BBs were caught red handed this time round. I have said my piece, my intention is not to gloat over other' s misfortune, its just that, investing in stock and shares, the first rule you must strictly adhere to is , once u sense something is wrong, run run run and run, cut loss cut loss and cut loss. Then u have some chance of surviving in this ruthless world of stock investment. Nuff said.   NextEvolution      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 17:44) Posted: Now many regretted not cutting loss when it was traded after lifting halt last week with price as high as 3.3 for 2 days before the plunge to 2.4 All the red flags are there yet many are still hoping for some miracles to happen
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ahhuat08 Elite	14-Feb-2017 18:00        ahhuat08 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	In all honesty, if u were vested prior to the 1st halt ie trading above 48, when the halt was lifted, those who were vested, do u reasonably think that its so easy to cut. Sometimes, its really not so easy to make decision especially if u r heavily vested. All traders bot before the 1st halt was thinking of since its quite " cheap" as such they would buy on the hope that there could be a turnaround in this ailing company. However, the writedowns by the partners and the impairment by Ezra themselves were really the final straw that broke the camel' s back. Who would have thought the repercussion of Ezra' s debts and its partners revealation of 600 over million write down and the 1 billion NPL by the local banks. Seriously, if u r not insider, no one would have known it. And its dam easy to comment on hindsight. Even the jv partners have not really carried out due diligence with open books, let alone,traders like us. And i wont be surprised alot of BBs were caught red handed this time round. I have said my piece, my intention is not to gloat over other' s misfortune, its just that, investing in stock and shares, the first rule you must strictly adhere to is , once u sense something is wrong, run run run and run, cut loss cut loss and cut loss. Then u have some chance of surviving in this ruthless world of stock investment. Nuff said.   NextEvolution      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 17:44) Posted: Now many regretted not cutting loss when it was traded after lifting halt last week with price as high as 3.3 for 2 days before the plunge to 2.4 All the red flags are there yet many are still hoping for some miracles to happen
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NextEvolution Elite	14-Feb-2017 17:44        NextEvolution About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Now many regretted not cutting loss when it was traded after lifting halt last week with price as high as 3.3 for 2 days before the plunge to 2.4 All the red flags are there yet many are still hoping for some miracles to happen
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pnuklis Master	14-Feb-2017 17:40        pnuklis About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Looks like this counter might never trade again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Suda Habis
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Wind22i Supreme	14-Feb-2017 17:35        Wind22i About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It seems like its in some serious deep shit..
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acetron Member	14-Feb-2017 17:28        acetron About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	this counter goner
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TeoMark Veteran	14-Feb-2017 16:40        TeoMark About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Even company like noble still got people interested. This one is really jiak sai. Now local banks got jinxed by this company.
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Siwomp Supreme	14-Feb-2017 15:46        Siwomp About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bought some other oil& gas related counters, the ones with oil fields and producing............ walking the talk.    Huat Ah! Siwomp      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 14:19) Posted: If i can buy Ezra share now, I am willing to take a bet.  I am beting not on Ezra potential, but on the involved parties to do the right things for the Singapore Economy...... I am taking about the Banks, Creditors, Whiteknights.......
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Audermas Master	14-Feb-2017 15:15        Audermas About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	maybe asset sale alr.. haha joebloggs      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 14:56) Posted: I fail to understand who you think is going to merge or acquire EZRA with its mountain of debt and diminishing assets..........? Siwomp      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 14:35) Posted: Some of the guys will probably get replaced........... or they can do an M& A.
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alan5793 Veteran	14-Feb-2017 15:09        alan5793 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	More on JM... Thats Y banks crying... Unable to get back loans Siwomp      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 15:00) Posted: Let' s wait for the announcement.................
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sheerluck Supreme	14-Feb-2017 15:08        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SG going got value-creating economy.   O& G doesn' t fit the bills.   Those that needs to be save will be saved.   Those who mgmt showed real abilities to ride through the storm will be worth saving.   EZRA mgmt absolutely do not belong tho this category.   but because of the super incapable mgmt, EZRA structure is severely damaged.   Let it RIP ba. Siwomp      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 14:19) Posted: If i can buy Ezra share now, I am willing to take a bet.  I am beting not on Ezra potential, but on the involved parties to do the right things for the Singapore Economy...... I am taking about the Banks, Creditors, Whiteknights.......
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Siwomp Supreme	14-Feb-2017 15:00        Siwomp About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Let' s wait for the announcement.................
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joebloggs Senior	14-Feb-2017 14:56        joebloggs About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I fail to understand who you think is going to merge or acquire EZRA with its mountain of debt and diminishing assets..........? Siwomp      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 14:35) Posted: Some of the guys will probably get replaced........... or they can do an M& A. joebloggs      ( Date: 14-Feb-2017 14:29) Posted: Why is anyone going to save EZRA with the same Management in place?
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