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kandinsky Master	08-Apr-2019 23:58        kandinsky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am happy to hold mid term, just scared that when it hits $1, my fingers itch to take profit.
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Trader130 Supreme	08-Apr-2019 23:02        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	👍   Qanghoo      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 21:26) Posted: Thx for info. Govt estimates an additional 500 k visiters a yr with the new developments.  I think this number shd gradually grow.  Very possible that GS cld hit 1 bil profit within the next 5-7 yrs.  I doubt there' s gonna be a need for a rights.  Div cld rise to 4.5 to 5c n share px cld push up to ard 1.50.  DYODD as always though. Trader130      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 17:34) Posted: Likely because Theme park that is why net profit drop... This Genting Brhd has potential hit 1 billion 10 years ago when outdoor theme park was operational ... But too bad because of it , the net drop to half .. As for Gs , if after expansion , more tourist come , then GS add another 300-500 million net profits in pocket .. it will definitely hit 1 billion .. if not I will selll the business 🤣
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Qanghoo Supreme	08-Apr-2019 21:26        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thx for info. Govt estimates an additional 500 k visiters a yr with the new developments.  I think this number shd gradually grow.  Very possible that GS cld hit 1 bil profit within the next 5-7 yrs.  I doubt there' s gonna be a need for a rights.  Div cld rise to 4.5 to 5c n share px cld push up to ard 1.50.  DYODD as always though. Trader130      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 17:34) Posted: Likely because Theme park that is why net profit drop... This Genting Brhd has potential hit 1 billion 10 years ago when outdoor theme park was operational ... But too bad because of it , the net drop to half .. As for Gs , if after expansion , more tourist come , then GS add another 300-500 million net profits in pocket .. it will definitely hit 1 billion .. if not I will selll the business 🤣 Qanghoo      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 17:05) Posted: Yep.  GS looks like crown jewel in the Genting grp now.  Last yr, added nearly 400 mil to cash holding
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wehuattogether88 Supreme	08-Apr-2019 20:00        wehuattogether88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Jefferies just upgraded Wynn Resorts to 'buy' from 'hold'. Jefferies said they are more bullish on the stock after recent developments and events in Macau and China. "Events and developments have occurred in China, Macau and for WYNN in the year to date and since our market tour in March that we believe warrant a more positive view. These include better than expected GGR results, regulatory developments for competing companies/markets, and increasing evidence of a Chinese economic rebound. As we have noted previously, valuation sensitivity is reduced in accelerating periods." If they can upgrade casinos in Macau because of China economic recovery, then Genting Singapore would also benefits because some of their VVIPs are from China.
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Trader130 Supreme	08-Apr-2019 17:34        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Likely because Theme park that is why net profit drop... This Genting Brhd has potential hit 1 billion 10 years ago when outdoor theme park was operational ... But too bad because of it , the net drop to half .. As for Gs , if after expansion , more tourist come , then GS add another 300-500 million net profits in pocket .. it will definitely hit 1 billion .. if not I will selll the business 🤣 Qanghoo      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 17:05) Posted: Yep.  GS looks like crown jewel in the Genting grp now.  Last yr, added nearly 400 mil to cash holding. Trader130      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 17:03) Posted: So less ... compare SG
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Qanghoo Supreme	08-Apr-2019 17:05        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yep.  GS looks like crown jewel in the Genting grp now.  Last yr, added nearly 400 mil to cash holding. Trader130      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 17:03) Posted: So less ... compare SG  lovetoshare      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 16:19) Posted: smart investor ordinary investor. Parent company Genting Bhd posted a net profit of SGD$454 millionq for the year ended December 2018.......
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Trader130 Supreme	08-Apr-2019 17:03        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So less ... compare SG  lovetoshare      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 16:19) Posted: smart investor ordinary investor. Parent company Genting Bhd posted a net profit of SGD$454 millionq for the year ended December 2018.......
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lovetoshare Elite	08-Apr-2019 16:25        lovetoshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	visionary budget ..
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lovetoshare Elite	08-Apr-2019 16:19        lovetoshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	smart investor ordinary investor. Parent company Genting Bhd posted a net profit of SGD$454 millionq for the year ended December 2018.......
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kandinsky Master	08-Apr-2019 15:22        kandinsky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Which company don't spend money for expansion of business? Haha... The key question is whether the market thinks their business is viable and whether there is a good track record to prove it. sengsk      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 13:57) Posted: Becareful, They will    continuously spend money for expansion business.
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sengsk Elite	08-Apr-2019 13:57        sengsk About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Becareful, They will    continuously spend money for expansion business.
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Trader130 Supreme	08-Apr-2019 13:49        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	AGM can ask 🤣 🤣 🤣 tipper      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 11:45) Posted: Who can guess roughly when the rights issue will happen? sky1983      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 10:59) Posted: Too taxing for GS, if can win IR japan also Sion
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tipper Senior	08-Apr-2019 11:45        tipper About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Who can guess roughly when the rights issue will happen? sky1983      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 10:59) Posted: Too taxing for GS, if can win IR japan also Siong WL123456      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 10:29) Posted: Just sharing my opinion . I think the issue now is to fund the $4.5bil expansion plan , there will be short term pain before long term gain . The main concern will be share value dilution due to rights issue and decrease in dividend to fund expansion . Currently GS do not have the necessary cash to fund the $4.5bil required . Parking the money in GS when facing share value dilution and lower dividend is negative as cash has an opportunity cost which will be incurred as a loss should you deprive it . It?s only logical that money managers withdraw the funds temporarily in view of the negatives and put them to better use before entering GS again once the skies are clearer.
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SgYuan Supreme	08-Apr-2019 11:27        SgYuan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	mini ew w0 96 w1?99.5 w2?... w1 ?3.5 w2 ?2 tgt 97.5 dn 61.8% - px hit 975 one time - px cannot touch w0 96 break wave c continue w3 5.5 tgt 103 up 161.8% 30m chart dntrend turn sideline - bollinger 98.1 98.8 99.4 - very narrow band 1h chart dntrend turn sideline - bollinger 96.5 98.2 100 2h chart dntrend - bollinger 93.5 101.4 109.6 If px 97.5 cannot hold then likely 93.5 If px supported w3 tgt 103 - this is 4h mid@103 today px fighting range balance til now - 975 985 995 - fighting on 5m trend SgYuan      ( Date: 05-Apr-2019 11:09) Posted: 5m chart punch thr 15m chart - px swing from low to upper 96 to 99.5 - block @ upper - bollinger 96 98 100 - if cannot punch thr fall back to mid @98 mini ew w0 96 w1?99.5 w2?... w1 ?3.5 w2 ?2 tgt 97.5 dn 61.8% - this must be supported else wave c dn continue - px cannot touch 96 break wave c continue wave c tgt 925q SgYuan      ( Date: 04-Apr-2019 21:04) Posted: 5m chart - trend turn dntrend to sideline - bollinger 960 965 975 15m chart - bollinger 960 975 990 30min chart - bollinger 920 100 107 - see only 920 to 100 will do - as week chart low @930 - and 15m chart upper @990 Range 930 to 990 for tom ew wabc wa 1080 ?965 delta 115 wb ?965 ?995 delta 30 up 26% of wa - hope to see a rebound - those that long can here wc ?995 ?925 delta 70 dn 61.8% of wa
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sky1983 Member	08-Apr-2019 10:59        sky1983 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Too taxing for GS, if can win IR japan also Siong WL123456      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 10:29) Posted: Just sharing my opinion . I think the issue now is to fund the $4.5bil expansion plan , there will be short term pain before long term gain . The main concern will be share value dilution due to rights issue and decrease in dividend to fund expansion . Currently GS do not have the necessary cash to fund the $4.5bil required . Parking the money in GS when facing share value dilution and lower dividend is negative as cash has an opportunity cost which will be incurred as a loss should you deprive it . It?s only logical that money managers withdraw the funds temporarily in view of the negatives and put them to better use before entering GS again once the skies are clearer. lailai      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 09:39) Posted: A brief but a good comprehensive analysis. Agree, too many neg against any positives. Any push up likely by the usual shorties trapping the contras, who as usual will have to cut loss.
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WL123456 Supreme	08-Apr-2019 10:29        WL123456 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just sharing my opinion . I think the issue now is to fund the $4.5bil expansion plan , there will be short term pain before long term gain . The main concern will be share value dilution due to rights issue and decrease in dividend to fund expansion . Currently GS do not have the necessary cash to fund the $4.5bil required . Parking the money in GS when facing share value dilution and lower dividend is negative as cash has an opportunity cost which will be incurred as a loss should you deprive it . It?s only logical that money managers withdraw the funds temporarily in view of the negatives and put them to better use before entering GS again once the skies are clearer. lailai      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 09:39) Posted: A brief but a good comprehensive analysis. Agree, too many neg against any positives. Any push up likely by the usual shorties trapping the contras, who as usual will have to cut loss.   WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 14:36) Posted: I have a short term target of $0.80 for Genting . Reasons as follow : 1) I foresee lower dividend for next few FYs as GS needs to plough money into the new $4.5 billion project . Net cash of sgd3.26bil is insufficient so they will either raise money by issuing rights , bonds or borrowings all of which will incur either financial cost or dilution of shareholders value . 2) institutional investors might bail out in view diminishing margin of return both dividend and stock value wise . They include Phillips, Ocbc , cimb, RHB, UOB Kay Hian , Morgan Stanley Merrill lynch and DBS Vickers . 3) Most Analysts downgrade to hold with no buy ratings meaning shares will have downward pressure coming days . 4) TA wise , HA showing negative down trend with Long red candle representing huge selling pressure . 5) overall negative environment as government is trying to send a message about gambling with an increase in Levy for Singaporean. $50 means singaporean may consider alternative such as Genting highland or overseas IR such as those new ones in Jeju, Korea for example. Japan is also opening new IRs which will attract China gamblers as its nearer to travel to Japan . Note that a better analysis will be available once we know what are Genting plans on raising funds in the Money Markets as we will be then able to more accurately calculate their finance cost . The non gaming component is usually subsidised by the profit from gaming component so we can considered the profit contribution as negligible . Overall it will benefit the Singapore economy as the money will create jobs across various industries and the 7% increase in tax levied will be of course the icing on the cake. However , it cannot be taken for granted that tourist number may increase coming into Singapore and that?s a big IF. What I do know is that the Singapore is the big winner while it?s cloudy skies ahead for Genting Singapore . MBS will also benefit more as they get to increase their game to plot ratio compared to Genting . Hence , I suggest investors to wait for clearer skies before putting their monies back in to Genting again .
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chanbs Elite	08-Apr-2019 10:27        chanbs About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	shorted at 99 earlier
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chanbs Elite	08-Apr-2019 10:25        chanbs About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	doubt 975/98 can hold much longer now ... thought 98 was the base earlier ....
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Trader130 Supreme	08-Apr-2019 09:46        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	冲 啊 🌲 🌲 🌲 Trader130      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 09:45) Posted: 公 说 公 有 理 。 婆 说 婆 有 理 。 现 在 还 有 笨 蛋 玩 Contra 吗 ？ ？ 🤣 🤣 🤣 lailai      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 09:39) Posted: A brief but a good comprehensive analysis. Agree, too many neg against any positives. Any push up likely by the usual shorties trapping the contras, who as usual will have to cut loss.
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Trader130 Supreme	08-Apr-2019 09:45        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	公 说 公 有 理 。 婆 说 婆 有 理 。 现 在 还 有 笨 蛋 玩 Contra 吗 ？ ？ 🤣 🤣 🤣 lailai      ( Date: 08-Apr-2019 09:39) Posted: A brief but a good comprehensive analysis. Agree, too many neg against any positives. Any push up likely by the usual shorties trapping the contras, who as usual will have to cut loss.   WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 14:36) Posted: I have a short term target of $0.80 for Genting . Reasons as follow : 1) I foresee lower dividend for next few FYs as GS needs to plough money into the new $4.5 billion project . Net cash of sgd3.26bil is insufficient so they will either raise money by issuing rights , bonds or borrowings all of which will incur either financial cost or dilution of shareholders value . 2) institutional investors might bail out in view diminishing margin of return both dividend and stock value wise . They include Phillips, Ocbc , cimb, RHB, UOB Kay Hian , Morgan Stanley Merrill lynch and DBS Vickers . 3) Most Analysts downgrade to hold with no buy ratings meaning shares will have downward pressure coming days . 4) TA wise , HA showing negative down trend with Long red candle representing huge selling pressure . 5) overall negative environment as government is trying to send a message about gambling with an increase in Levy for Singaporean. $50 means singaporean may consider alternative such as Genting highland or overseas IR such as those new ones in Jeju, Korea for example. Japan is also opening new IRs which will attract China gamblers as its nearer to travel to Japan . Note that a better analysis will be available once we know what are Genting plans on raising funds in the Money Markets as we will be then able to more accurately calculate their finance cost . The non gaming component is usually subsidised by the profit from gaming component so we can considered the profit contribution as negligible . Overall it will benefit the Singapore economy as the money will create jobs across various industries and the 7% increase in tax levied will be of course the icing on the cake. However , it cannot be taken for granted that tourist number may increase coming into Singapore and that?s a big IF. What I do know is that the Singapore is the big winner while it?s cloudy skies ahead for Genting Singapore . MBS will also benefit more as they get to increase their game to plot ratio compared to Genting . Hence , I suggest investors to wait for clearer skies before putting their monies back in to Genting again .
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