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COMFORT DELGRO - MOVING FORWARD
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01-Jul-2023 10:10
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Great next week breaking 1.22 👍 👍 👍 please buy more
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Speediman
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30-Jun-2023 12:32
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Happily loaded up more today!  Please short more
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Conman
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30-Jun-2023 11:19
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Look like the dead cat bounce had already peaked at 1.20 ☹ ️
BBs had pumped up from 1.02 hence every peep they sell down from here is good $$$ for them. |
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Speediman
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28-Jun-2023 16:54
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You are negative about the prospects, please short more.  For many of us, we are looking forward to a bullish trend forming.  Recovery of CDG share price is on the way.       
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spore1
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28-Jun-2023 14:11
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A nice breakout of 1.21 we may see her testing 1.30! Dyodd.
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Conman
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28-Jun-2023 09:58
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When BBs have pumped up (from 1.02) and hold the price up to unload, if their 'analysts' ask you to buy, it is time to short.
1.20 to 1.25 is a good range to short. The higher it goes, ie 1.25, the better to short. Please DYODD. This is my own opinion. Buy or sell at your own risk. 😎
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Joelton
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28-Jun-2023 09:17
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ComfortDelGro&rsquo s new platform fee doesn&rsquo t see analysts increase their TPs
 
Analysts from Maybank Research and UOB Kay Hian Research have maintained their &ldquo buy&rdquo and &ldquo hold&rdquo calls for ComfortDelGro C52 0.00% Corporation (CDG) with unchanged target prices of $1.45 and $1.37, as CDG&rsquo s new platform fee comes into effect from July 1.
 
While CDG&rsquo s share price has underperformed on the back of slower-than-expected earnings after the economic reopening post-pandemic, Eric Ong of Maybank believes the transport company could now be &ldquo turning the corner&rdquo .
 
Judging by CDG&rsquo s results for 1QFY2023 ended March, Ong believes the worst for the company could be over, with core ebit likely bottoming out despite near-term cost challenges. We expect to see stronger growth in 2HFY2023, underpinned by continued margins recovery in its public transport services and taxi businesses,&rdquo he says.
 
With CDG acquiring some 1.15 million shares in the open market at an average price of $1.09 since May 23, Ong says that the recent share buyback signals emerging value in the stock.
 
He notes that CDG&rsquo s balance sheet is strong with a net cash position of $715 million (or 33 cents per share as at end-1QFY2023. His target price of $1.45 is based on a discounted cash flow model, which assumes an 8.3% weighted average cost of capital (WACC) and 1% long-term growth rate.
 
Also providing a boost to the company will be the implementation of a new platform fee of 70 cents for each ride booking made on the CDG Zig app from July 1. This new fee will also apply to limousine transfers made through its app, but not for rides booked via phone calls or text messages, or for street hails.
 
Ong says this is a &ldquo timely&rdquo move as CDG looks to roll out the next version of the app that comes with new and enhanced user features and services, which already include merchant deals, restaurant reservation and private bus charter.
 
He notes that the company owns about 600 private-hire cars and has around 4,000 private-hire drivers on its platform. Based on CDG&rsquo s ride volume of some 8 million in Singapore recorded in 1QFY2023, Ong estimates the platform fee will generate almost $6 million in additional revenue per quarter or $22 million annually.
 
&ldquo This should flow through directly to its taxi segment&rsquo s ebit and help to more than offset the higher operating costs due to inflation, as well as IT expenses,&rdquo says Ong.
 
Meanwhile, UOB Kay Hian analysts say that with the new platform fee aimed at improving the quality of the app&rsquo s procure-to-pay (P2P) services and features, this implies that the entire
platform fee would go to CDG and not the drivers.
 
&ldquo This is in line with most of CDG&rsquo s domestic ride-hailing peers that already have platform fees implemented at similar rates, with most of the fees also going directly to the respective companies,&rdquo they say, adding that this should not reduce its ride-hailing market share as CDG is only just &ldquo playing catch-up&rdquo with what has become an industry norm.
 
With an estimated $11 million to $12 million h-o-h increase in revenue for 2HFY2023, the analysts have increased their full-year 2023 forecast for CDG&rsquo s taxi operating profit 76% higher y-o-y to around $92 million.
 
They have increased their FY2023, FY2024 and FY2025 patmi estimates by 8% to 16% on the back of higher contributions from the taxi segment to $165.3 million, $195.3 million and 216.6 million, respectively.
 
&ldquo Based on our estimates, the taxi segment would be CDG&rsquo s largest operating profit contributor in 2023 and 2024, given declining margins from the public transport segment,&rdquo say the analysts, adding that potential upside could come from further decreases in CDG&rsquo s taxi rental rebates in its upcoming quarterly review or increases to the 5% online taxi commission rate.
 
Maybank&rsquo s Ong points out that with competition easing as key ride-railing players such as Grab and Gojek work towards profitability, he believes CDG could potentially raise its taxi booking commission rate, which currently stands at 5% compared to its industry peers of 15% to 20%, later this year.
 
However, despite improving fundamentals, a decent dividend yield and a robust balance sheet, the UOB Kay Hian analysts believe that CDG is &ldquo fairly valued&rdquo at current price levels. They recommend that investors take profit on any run-up in share price performance close to their target price of $1.27, considering that near- to medium-term earnings headwinds, margin compression and a lack of immediate catalysts are likely to cap share price performance.
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josephyeo
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27-Jun-2023 13:27
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Thank you for sharing!
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Conman
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27-Jun-2023 11:43
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Guru thanks for the 'good' news! But looks like nobody is cheering.
For this kind of low tech power supply point business, unless one is in monopolistic position, one cannot make money. Everyone who has a small piece of land infront of his house will set up his charging point to earn money. This is particularly so in China. Going all the way to China, invest as a joint venture and joinly set up 50 charging points sounds like a joke to me 😅
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spore1
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27-Jun-2023 08:21
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Looks like gd news! Chart wise also turning bullish! https://www.spore-share.com/2023/06/comfortdelgro.html | ||||
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Entropy72
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26-Jun-2023 20:43
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COMFORTDELGRO ENTERS INTO
GREEN ENERGY MARKET WITH CHINESE PARTNER ComfortDelGro Corporation Limited and Guangzhou Public Transport Group (GZPTG) have entered into a strategic partnership to develop and promote transport-related green energy businesses. Leveraging each other?s expertise in transportation and sustainable energy solutions, the two companies are collaborating to invest, build and operate green energy projects. This will include investments in the construction of automotive electric charging and swapping stations and ancillary solar photovoltaic and energy storage systems to support the charging and swapping business. For a start, their initial joint project will deliver 60 chargers with 3,600kw capacity to cater to the needs of municipal buses and cars in Guangzhou, China. ComfortDelGro Managing Director/Group CEO, Mr Cheng Siak Kian, and GZPTG Chairman/General Manager, Mr Li Xiao Jun, signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) this morning, 26 June 2023, to formally announce this strategic cooperation which comes under the auspice of the 13th Singapore-Guangdong Collaboration Council that is co-chaired by Minister for Health, Mr Ong Ye Kung, and Guangdong Governor, Mr Wang Weizhong. Mr Cheng said: ?Climate change is a pressing concern for our world today and as a leading land transport company, we are excited by the opportunity to further collaborate with the Guangzhou Public Transport Group to provide decarbonisation solutions. GZPTG is a trusted partner, whom we have forged a strong partnership with over the last 26 years, in jointly operating one of the largest bus stations in Guangzhou. With our combined strengths and shared vision, we look forward to growing this new business together.? ComfortDelGro Corporation Limited Mr Li said: "We need a green and low carbon development approach to protect the environment. Green Energy is the future. As the largest public transportation and road transport enterprise in South China, it is timely for Guangzhou Public Transport Group to collaborate once again with our long-time partner, the ComfortDelGro Group, in exploring opportunities in the area of green mobility in China and beyond. As partners that have jointly run a successful bus station for decades, it is only natural that we continue to build on the foundation and leverage on each other's strengths as we explore new grounds and contribute to the global green movement.? Earlier in April 2023, the two companies had also signed an MoU to collaborate as partners in the taxi business in China. We also signed an MoU with Chengdu Hexintong Vehicle Inspection Co., Ltd to cooperate on a vehicle inspection centre in Chengdu. The centre has the capacity to conduct inspections for up to 80,000 vehicles a year. Significantly, the centre will be only one of three centres in Chengdu that can conduct inspection for all types of vehicles. Locally in Singapore, ComfortDelGro has been in the environmental sustainability business since 2021 in joint ventures with ENGIE South East Asia to provide EV charging solutions and renewable solar energy. To-date, we have installed 500 charging points and this will double to 1,000 by year-end. - |
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Conman
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26-Jun-2023 12:20
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Public buses are gov properties. All of them will become EV eventually. Public buses and MRT are businesses / services owned by the state.
SBST is only a contractor operating the bus service.under the Bus Contracting Model started from 2016 for a 10 year period.
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Speediman
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26-Jun-2023 11:34
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Hey diesel or petrol engines are not worthless. They are highly reliable workhorse      Over 600 public buses to be refurbished by LTA, first such exercise since contracting model
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Conman
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26-Jun-2023 09:34
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How you get the NAV of 1.20? From its 15,423 buses and taxis fitted with diesel or petrol engines?
They will have to be scraped and replaced by EVs soon. I guess you as investors will have to finance the $6b needed for the project. Thereafter, it will become a $6b company 🤣
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Speediman
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25-Jun-2023 16:42
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Based on NAV of around $1.20, 1.3X is $1.56.  30% premium over its NAV is not demanding IF  1) PTC recommends higher fare increase to allow operators to cover cost overruns due to persistent inflation.    2) Grab loses market shares back to CDG as more people discovers Zig is often 5-10% cheaper than grab.  3) Overseas operations profit starts to grow  4) CDG sheds away those thin/unprofitable margins bus contracts.    |
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n3wbie
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25-Jun-2023 13:20
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Maybank has just published an update note today: Come pick me up Turning the corner maintain Buy and TP of SGD1.45 (+24%) CD&rsquo s share price has underperformed (-3% YTD) on the back of slower- than-expected earnings trajectory after post-Covid reopening. Judging by CD&rsquo s recent 1Q23 results, we think the worst may be over and core EBIT has likely bottomed despite near-term cost challenges. We expect to see stronger growth in 2H, underpinned by continued margins recovery in its public transport services and taxi businesses. Maintain BUY and DCF-based TP of SGD1.45 (8.3% WACC and 1% long-term growth). New platform fee for app bookings starting 1 Jul On 20 Jun, CD said it will be imposing a platform fee of SGD0.70 per trip for rides booked via its CDG Zig app starting 1 Jul 2023. We understand this new fee will also apply to limousine transfers made through its app, but not for rides booked via phone calls or text messages, or for street hails. According to management, it is introducing the fee for mobile bookings as CD looks to roll out the next version of the app that comes with new and enhanced user features and services. Further monetisation of CDG Zig app Based on Singapore ride volumes of ~8m in 1Q23, the platform fee will generate almost SGD6m in additional revenue per quarter or SGD22m annually. This should flow through directly to its taxi segment&rsquo s EBIT and help to more than offset the higher operating costs due to inflation, as well as IT expenses. Notably, the group has been regularly improving the CDG Zig app by introducing features and services like merchant deals, restaurant reservation and private bus charter. Recent share buyback signals emerging value With competition easing as key ride-railing players such as Grab and Gojek work towards profitability, we think CD could potentially raise its taxi booking commission rate (currently 5% vs industry peers of 15-20%) later this year. Taxi utilisation levels in China are also likely to recover with onboarding of new drivers. Meanwhile, CD&rsquo s balance sheet is strong with net cash of SGD715m (or SGD0.33/share) in 1Q23. Since 23 May, we noted that CD has acquired about 1.15m shares in the open market at an average of SGD1.09. |
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vicloo
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25-Jun-2023 10:26
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I started buying in at 1.1.... I believe it will easily go back above 1.2. At 1.45, you better average down more... hopefully get back above 1.4 in 2-3 years time.
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Chosen1989
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24-Jun-2023 18:59
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I dont really care bout what the BB are doing in the short term, cos end of the day it has to adhere to fundamentals of the company.  I.e CDG printed around 105m/quarter of operation profit in 2019. That was a massive number. We are down to 50m, more than a 50% haircut. Thus stock price dropped to more than 50% down. Of course you are right on the volatility of the stock and it becoming a casino with the BB playing their game and the " analyst" doing this and that. That is not something that I can trade around or manage/control. Fundamentally,  if say by 2023 Q4 they print operating profit of 100m organically (i.e not via special sale or what not), I am very confident that this will hit $2.25 at least. Now my question of this is that will it recover to that? I am interested to hear your bearish thesis on the fundamentals of the company. Not about your guess on people shorting and funds exiting/entering because at the end of the day, that is not something that matters in the long term. I remembered you saying that SBS is just a contractor that will see its profits going to 0, so my counter point is that government need to ensure the survival as they are the only 2 companies authorized for rail contractors in Singapore. So interested to hear your views on Vicom, UK bus, Aus Bus, EV charging in 2030s, taxi business and ZIG platform (especially given the cuts in Grab). Thanks in advance |
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Conman
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23-Jun-2023 07:00
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Chosen, this counter has been in a big down trend not for no reasons. But many brothers chose to ignore these rreasons and magnify the 'positive' aspects like ' big cash holdings', ''Grab losing big money', 'bottoning very soon', 'funds recommend buys', etc etc and ended up getting stuck very high.
To talk aboit the 'reasons', I will need to tell long story. But basically, people are not impressed by its business strategy in this technological age. The results are : No big funds holding as a stabilising force, becoming a punting counter with everybody including the BBs buying low selling high and selling/shorting high buying low everyday -- how not to go down and down? Because there are many retailers and even smaller BBs stuck at every price level and waiting to escape, it will be very difficult for it to recover without any rejuvenation (which did not happen at all and probabably will never). It us very obvious that many BBs are playing this counter. The big ones are aided by robots and have their own in-house platforms and 'analysts'. Hence one must be able to do 'BB analysis' in order to survive playing this counter.
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Chosen1989
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22-Jun-2023 19:24
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Conman, I have to say, that you are really accurate in this CDG prediction. I have around 500k shares in this counter, bought my first 30k at 1.7. Average price with all the dividends will be around 1.45. So I could have benefited greatly from heeding your advice. End of the day, whatever one say doesnt matter, its the money that talks. But currently, don' t u think it presents an opportunity for everyone at this price point? Also, the outlook in UK transport operator is looking better especially with the highs of the pound and consumer confidence and tourism coming back. As CDG is still losing 3.5m every quarter, once this section goes back to its 5m (pre pandemic is 13m profit), this will bring a 8m lift (-3.5 to +5m) in quarterly reporting, Aus is still around 10m short of 2019 levels as well, so on the bear case, overseas contribution should be giving at least something like +12m in quarterly earnings. Which is around 60% of 2019 levels. Also another thing to note is that private money is looking at UK bus companies due to electrification agenda by the government. I' m not in M& A myself so I cannot tell if the following is true but I dont see such a idea as illogical https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/06/15/britain-transport-m-a Singapore business also looking steady, maybe as what you mentioned, risk is with SBS transit losing contracts and getting squeezed on their profit margin. But I feel that government has an agenda to keep SBS alive to compete with SMRT for the optics of singapore transportation industry as an anti-monopolistic move. Wanting to hear your thoughts.  |
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