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mirrange33
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Just try to understand more.

if I sell my rights, do I still get the warrants?

 




Blue-sky      ( Date: 30-Jul-2013 12:17) Posted:



Yes , i think this is simple enough for all to understand.

Theoretically, if you have bought WE at 10cents , then 4.83 is your breakeven   point..

what i was trying to say earlier , is that there are many exit points for this as you do not need to go all the way to subscribe and then exercise the warrant.

You can sell the rights entitlement.

Sell your current holding and use proceeds to exercise the rights

you can also sell off warrants once it is listed.

so plan your exit to reduce your risk if you are uncomfortable putting in more money into this counter.

Regards 

 

Bigmama      ( Date: 30-Jul-2013 06:47) Posted:

Put it simply.....(Sifus, Please correct me if I am wrong.)

Imagine I have 100 lots at 10 cent
Pay Rights at 1.5 cent per lot
Pay Warrants at 3 cent per lot

Imagine go thur all, I pay 10+1.5+3 = 14.5 cent total

Finally, I will have 300 lots and at average price 14.5/3 = 4.83cent per lot.


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When will start to buy the rights?

Is there any expiry date for the rights?

 
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Yes , i think this is simple enough for all to understand.

Theoretically, if you have bought WE at 10cents , then 4.83 is your breakeven   point..

what i was trying to say earlier , is that there are many exit points for this as you do not need to go all the way to subscribe and then exercise the warrant.

You can sell the rights entitlement.

Sell your current holding and use proceeds to exercise the rights

you can also sell off warrants once it is listed.

so plan your exit to reduce your risk if you are uncomfortable putting in more money into this counter.

Regards 

 

Bigmama      ( Date: 30-Jul-2013 06:47) Posted:

Put it simply.....(Sifus, Please correct me if I am wrong.)

Imagine I have 100 lots at 10 cent
Pay Rights at 1.5 cent per lot
Pay Warrants at 3 cent per lot

Imagine go thur all, I pay 10+1.5+3 = 14.5 cent total

Finally, I will have 300 lots and at average price 14.5/3 = 4.83cent per lot.

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 Alert Admin 		Put it simply.....(Sifus, Please correct me if I am wrong.)

Imagine I have 100 lots at 10 cent
Pay Rights at 1.5 cent per lot
Pay Warrants at 3 cent per lot

Imagine go thur all, I pay 10+1.5+3 = 14.5 cent total

Finally, I will have 300 lots and at average price 14.5/3 = 4.83cent per lot.
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30-Jul-2013 00:48     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Correction:

Blue Sky said " IF" meaning suppose or let the trading price of one share be 5 cents. Current trading price of one share is 5.2 cents.  Yes, you need to pay 1.5 cents to get one share and one free warrant.  The warrant allows the holder to buy one share in the future at 3 cents. Hence, the future value of  one warrant will depend on the trading price.  If  the future trading price is 5 cents, more people will want to buy the warrant from you (which costed you 1.5 cents) but now you should be able to sell at 2 cents ( being 5 cents trading price minus 3 cents strike price). This Cum Rights exercise by WE is in essence a share split  and 1.5 cents for one warrant (not free) and share holders have to subscribe to the Rights or they will lose half the value of their existing shares (if they bought them Cum Rights) and not get the warrants. Please correct me if I am wrong. thanks.   
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Correction:

Blue Sky said " IF" meaning suppose or let the trading price of one share be 5 cents. Current trading price of one share is 5.2 cents.  Yes, you need to pay 1.5 cents to get one share and one free warrant.  The warrant allows the holder to buy one share in the future at 3 cents. Hence, the future value of  one warrant will depend on the trading price.  If  the future trading price is 5 cents, more people will want to buy the warrant from you (which costed you 1.5 cents) but now you should be able to sell at 2 cents ( being 5 cents trading price minus 3 cents strike price). This Cum Rights exercise by WE is in essence a share split  and 1.5 cents for one warrant (not free) and share holders have to subscribe to the Rights or they will not get the warrants and lose out.   


k2kingkong      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 23:32) Posted:



@mirrange33, allow me to help explain :  Blue Sky said " IF" meaning suppose or let the trading price be 5 cents currently trading price is 5.2 cents.  Yes, you need to pay 1.5 cents to get one right which allow the holder to buy one share in the future at 3 cents. Hence, the future value of  one right will depend on the trading price.  If  the future trading price is 5 cents, more people will want to buy the right from you (which costed you 1.5 cents) but now you should be able to sell at 2 cents ( being 5 cents trading price minus 3 cents strike price). Hope, this is helps. cheers.
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@mirrange33, allow me to help explain :  Blue Sky said " IF" meaning suppose or let the trading price be 5 cents currently trading price is 5.2 cents.  Yes, you need to pay 1.5 cents to get one right which allow the holder to buy one share in the future at 3 cents. Hence, the future value of  one right will depend on the trading price.  If  the future trading price is 5 cents, more people will want to buy the right from you (which costed you 1.5 cents) but now you should be able to sell at 2 cents ( being 5 cents trading price minus 3 cents strike price). Hope, this is helps. cheers.
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29-Jul-2013 23:15     
 
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Just want to know. How u get the 5 cents and 2 cents?

Lets say I sell at 5 cent and 2 cents, Do I need to pay the $0.015 and $0.03 that quote by them?


Blue-sky      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 16:13) Posted:



yes please dont let it lapse .

you will get 20,000 shares n 20,000 warrants.

so if share price is at 5 cents   you can get back $1,000 (20,000 x 5 cents ) and $400 ( hopefully or more 20,000 x 2 cents) ( theory price only ok )

good luck.. 

 

 

teeth53      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 16:00) Posted:



Thk, Blue,

To pay for the 20,000 entitled shares (20 lots) at 0.015c is $300 dollars
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louis_leecs      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 17:07) Posted:

Lucky is fake sell at 45
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yes please dont let it lapse .

you will get 20,000 shares n 20,000 warrants.

so if share price is at 5 cents   you can get back $1,000 (20,000 x 5 cents ) and $400 ( hopefully or more 20,000 x 2 cents) ( theory price only ok )

good luck.. 

 

 

teeth53      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 16:00) Posted:



Thk, Blue,

To pay for the 20,000 entitled shares (20 lots) at 0.015c is $300 dollars.

Blue-sky      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 15:53) Posted:



Hi There, 

i think you mean 20,000 shares (20 lots)

You will be entitled to 20,000 rights (with free warrant)

To subscrible, which means take up the 20,000 rights share with 20,000 free warrant .. ( you need to pay $300.00 to subscribe) 

Options:

You can sell your entitlement - will be quoted soon

ignore it and let it laspe ( which is silly) 

sell your entitlement after you subscribe. sell shares and sell the warrants..

sell your current shares now at .052 and use the money to subscribe the entitlement. ( maybe a choice if you are cash tight) 

 

the shares prices will not shoot back to 10cents in the short time unless BB push it up to 10cents .

REgards

 
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Your entitlement to right shares is based on (1 to 1) at 0.015c

Your entitlement to warrant is also based on (1 to 1)...the catch here is the strike price at 0.03c

So if it mother shares trading (assuming) at 0.52c. players still stand to gain on short term play.

(0.03c -0.052c,  need to top up  0.022c before players can convert  - if it's wrong pls correct me)

teeth53      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 10:29) Posted:



http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/LQN.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=245772

Board is pleased to announce that the Company has today received the listing and quotation notice from the S'pore Exch Securities Trading Limited for the listing and quotation of the following:
(i) 758,382,403 Rights Shares (on a one to one issue on item-ii, and  right warrant and up to item-iii)
(ii) 758,382,403 Warrants and (iii) up to 758,382,403 Warrant Shares.

Suscription is 0.015  (players paying for...), and  strike price is 0.03.....?

  http://daytrading.about.com/od/daytradingglossary/g/OptionsStrike.htm

Strike Price

The strike price (or exercise price) of an options contract is the price that the underlying security will be bought or sold at if the option is exercised (i.e. if the rights given by the contract are used).



It is the difference between the strike price and the price of the underlying security at the time of exercise that gives the options trader their profit.

teeth53 thot - Hope it help players decide better. Just sharing info n promoting stk/shr and warrant trading info in SJ. Happi trading.
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Thk, Blue,

To pay for the 20,000 entitled shares (20 lots) at 0.015c is $300 dollars.

Blue-sky      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 15:53) Posted:



Hi There, 

i think you mean 20,000 shares (20 lots)

You will be entitled to 20,000 rights (with free warrant)

To subscrible, which means take up the 20,000 rights share with 20,000 free warrant .. ( you need to pay $300.00 to subscribe) 

Options:

You can sell your entitlement - will be quoted soon

ignore it and let it laspe ( which is silly) 

sell your entitlement after you subscribe. sell shares and sell the warrants..

sell your current shares now at .052 and use the money to subscribe the entitlement. ( maybe a choice if you are cash tight) 

 

the shares prices will not shoot back to 10cents in the short time unless BB push it up to 10cents .

REgards

 

berlinbear      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 15:01) Posted:



Just to check.. i have 20,000 lots bought at 0.106.

Understand due to this rights issue, I will be entitled to subscribe 20 000 rights ($0.015)  + 20 000 warrants ($0.03) based on my current share of 20 000 lots.  I will need to cough out S$1500 to buy these two.

A few questions:

1)  Can I don't subscribe to any rights and warrants and stay put with my 20 000 lots.  How to see if i will be making a loss or profit based on the current price listed at S$0.052?

2)  Will the share price rebounce back after today? or have to wait for any annoucement.

Sorry, newbie here.  Appreciate any views and helps on this.
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Hi, i would need some advise from all the shifus here. Is it right to say that for every mother share i have, i have the rights to buy one share at $0.015 and   also have the option to buy another share

at $0.03 for every right shares i have? Thanks in advance. 
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Assuming. 'have 20,000 lots bought at 0.106'. Assuming - 20,000 lots mean 20,000.000 mil share.

Yes. You  can  don't subscribe assuming is 20  lots (or 20,000 share), your entitlment is one to one.

Subscrption is based on the fine details offer by WE holdings, there's a date to entitle for  subscribing which is last Friday.

Is best to get it done and to ask your Remiser or borker.

     

berlinbear      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 15:01) Posted:



Just to check.. i have 20,000 lots bought at 0.106.

Understand due to this rights issue, I will be entitled to subscribe 20 000 rights ($0.015)  + 20 000 warrants ($0.03) based on my current share of 20 000 lots.  I will need to cough out S$1500 to buy these two.

A few questions:

1)  Can I don't subscribe to any rights and warrants and stay put with my 20 000 lots.  How to see if i will be making a loss or profit based on the current price listed at S$0.052?

2)  Will the share price rebounce back after today? or have to wait for any annoucement.

Sorry, newbie here.  Appreciate any views and helps on this.
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Hi There, 

i think you mean 20,000 shares (20 lots)

You will be entitled to 20,000 rights (with free warrant)

To subscrible, which means take up the 20,000 rights share with 20,000 free warrant .. ( you need to pay $300.00 to subscribe) 

Options:

You can sell your entitlement - will be quoted soon

ignore it and let it laspe ( which is silly) 

sell your entitlement after you subscribe. sell shares and sell the warrants..

sell your current shares now at .052 and use the money to subscribe the entitlement. ( maybe a choice if you are cash tight) 

 

the shares prices will not shoot back to 10cents in the short time unless BB push it up to 10cents .

REgards

 

berlinbear      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 15:01) Posted:



Just to check.. i have 20,000 lots bought at 0.106.

Understand due to this rights issue, I will be entitled to subscribe 20 000 rights ($0.015)  + 20 000 warrants ($0.03) based on my current share of 20 000 lots.  I will need to cough out S$1500 to buy these two.

A few questions:

1)  Can I don't subscribe to any rights and warrants and stay put with my 20 000 lots.  How to see if i will be making a loss or profit based on the current price listed at S$0.052?

2)  Will the share price rebounce back after today? or have to wait for any annoucement.

Sorry, newbie here.  Appreciate any views and helps on this.
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berlinbear      ( Date: 29-Jul-2013 15:01) Posted:



Just to check.. i have 20,000 lots bought at 0.106.

Understand due to this rights issue, I will be entitled to subscribe 20 000 rights ($0.015)  + 20 000 warrants ($0.03) based on my current share of 20 000 lots.  I will need to cough out S$1500 to buy these two.

A few questions:

1)  Can I don't subscribe to any rights and warrants and stay put with my 20 000 lots.  How to see if i will be making a loss or profit based on the current price listed at S$0.052?

2)  Will the share price rebounce back after today? or have to wait for any annoucement.

Sorry, newbie here.  Appreciate any views and helps on this.
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Just to check.. i have 20,000 lots bought at 0.106.

Understand due to this rights issue, I will be entitled to subscribe 20 000 rights ($0.015)  + 20 000 warrants ($0.03) based on my current share of 20 000 lots.  I will need to cough out S$1500 to buy these two.

A few questions:

1)  Can I don't subscribe to any rights and warrants and stay put with my 20 000 lots.  How to see if i will be making a loss or profit based on the current price listed at S$0.052?

2)  Will the share price rebounce back after today? or have to wait for any annoucement.

Sorry, newbie here.  Appreciate any views and helps on this.
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