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ecekca Elite	16-Feb-2016 08:51        ecekca About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yeah.. hold your bullets!!! central banks are screw these time.. they don' t know what to do cos they overfocus on the stock market which is making them to panic they are not traders but they are acting like one now either they prolonged the bubble or let the bubble burst now   haruta      ( Date: 16-Feb-2016 08:18) Posted: Still expensive leh. Have patience and wait. Dont gan cheong. Catch big fish must be patient. Even $7 is not cheap.
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FATABA Supreme	16-Feb-2016 08:48        FATABA About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	As expected, GE give a relatively good set of results. This wld alrdy contribute to OCBC tmr result...  ....and seeing UOB result NPL only goes up to 1.4% from 1.2% .... OCBC result cannot be all that bad and in fact they might offer some surprise tmr. ( alrdy 3 good qtr in the pocket) Prices has move up yesterday.
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Qanghoo Supreme	16-Feb-2016 08:20        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	A bit of DBS cos, to me, it' s the cheapest of the three.  But being extra cautious n perhaps I need not elaborate much - u see how the bk counters seemingly being  manipulated to move STI up n down n people seemingly intent on murdering STI.    Then u  also  see the herd mentality driven by apparent exploiters through all sorts of sensational articles in various media journals, etc,  abt ridiculously huge NPLs which are sufficient to sink the local financial sector n u wonder, " OMG, what' s happening?" ken3478      ( Date: 16-Feb-2016 08:01) Posted: Are u holding 3 bank counter?
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haruta Elite	16-Feb-2016 08:18        haruta About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Still expensive leh. Have patience and wait. Dont gan cheong. Catch big fish must be patient. Even $7 is not cheap.
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ken3478 Member	16-Feb-2016 08:01        ken3478 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Are u holding 3 bank counter?
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Qanghoo Supreme	16-Feb-2016 07:58        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Great Eastern profit up 5%.  See how this is gonna dovetail into the " significant drop of profit" when OCBC reports tmr.
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Goldfinger Supreme	16-Feb-2016 07:33        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	And this could well be the eye of the storm just passed - so the doom and gloom people and naysayers should take note.. Goldfinger      ( Date: 16-Feb-2016 07:31) Posted: UOB results were rather decent I thought
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Goldfinger Supreme	16-Feb-2016 07:31        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	UOB results were rather decent I thought
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Qanghoo Supreme	16-Feb-2016 07:29        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	UOB result out .... relatively stable.  NPL a bit high though (1.2 to 1.4%).  NIM increased by 6 basis pts.  Put simply, loan book of 200 bil increases net interest income by abt 120 mil on an annualised basis.  According to UOB' s press release the increase in NIM benefited from rising SIBOR n SOR.  So, for those worried by cb -ve interest, perhaps useful to check out which direction SIBOR n SOR are heading going forward before tearing ur hair botak by ur constant worries.
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sgng123 Supreme	16-Feb-2016 03:35        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Tomorrow might see blood spill on bank due to speculation of default on O& S sector, SMM 600m losses in 1quarter and impairment made on sete brasil likely bankrupcy
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ecekca Elite	16-Feb-2016 01:50        ecekca About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i reckon all banks result(net profit) are weaker than the previous quarter Qanghoo      ( Date: 15-Feb-2016 21:49) Posted: UOB' s result tmr morning shd provide some clue to the performance of DBS n OCBC (to report Wed, anyway).  Doubt if it' s gonna be so bad.  With SIBOR  generally still rather buoyant  (just checked that  - confirm that  3-mth SIBOR still abt 1.25%, substantially higher than last yr).  So, if external -ve interest does not drag SIBOR down, NIM is not likely to be impacted.  In any case, Yen subject to -ve interest only recently.  The forthcoming result is for FY 15.  A lot of other things are not new anyway, n OCBC had been able to show improve profitability  for Q315, so Q4 shd not be far worse, I' d think.    As for China, the slowdown  might have an adverse impact on its  business there.  But China is so huge.  So, how bad or not so bad the impact wld be also to some extent depends on the geographical area of its ops there.    In any case, like w always say, dyodd.  N no need to debate much longer too cos rpt card opens < 48 hrs time.  john_ric      ( Date: 15-Feb-2016 16:42) Posted: just my gut feeling.... bb dont need to wait for result announcement. they have ' private detectives' to get insider info for them. that is why thet have the advantage compared to retailers.
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Qanghoo Supreme	15-Feb-2016 21:49        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	UOB' s result tmr morning shd provide some clue to the performance of DBS n OCBC (to report Wed, anyway).  Doubt if it' s gonna be so bad.  With SIBOR  generally still rather buoyant  (just checked that  - confirm that  3-mth SIBOR still abt 1.25%, substantially higher than last yr).  So, if external -ve interest does not drag SIBOR down, NIM is not likely to be impacted.  In any case, Yen subject to -ve interest only recently.  The forthcoming result is for FY 15.  A lot of other things are not new anyway, n OCBC had been able to show improve profitability  for Q315, so Q4 shd not be far worse, I' d think.    As for China, the slowdown  might have an adverse impact on its  business there.  But China is so huge.  So, how bad or not so bad the impact wld be also to some extent depends on the geographical area of its ops there.    In any case, like w always say, dyodd.  N no need to debate much longer too cos rpt card opens < 48 hrs time.  john_ric      ( Date: 15-Feb-2016 16:42) Posted: just my gut feeling.... bb dont need to wait for result announcement. they have ' private detectives' to get insider info for them. that is why thet have the advantage compared to retailers. Siwomp      ( Date: 15-Feb-2016 14:55) Posted: imho,.profitability will definately be hurt, due to the potential rate race by the cbks, falling properties prices, falling biz confident, falling oil price, potential falling sgd exchange rate, slow down in china....etcs.... long term bbs are probably waiting foe more clarity before taking big bites....dyodd
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john_ric Supreme	15-Feb-2016 16:42        john_ric About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	just my gut feeling.... bb dont need to wait for result announcement. they have ' private detectives' to get insider info for them. that is why thet have the advantage compared to retailers. Siwomp      ( Date: 15-Feb-2016 14:55) Posted: imho,.profitability will definately be hurt, due to the potential rate race by the cbks, falling properties prices, falling biz confident, falling oil price, potential falling sgd exchange rate, slow down in china....etcs.... long term bbs are probably waiting foe more clarity before taking big bites....dyodd
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Siwomp Supreme	15-Feb-2016 15:50        Siwomp About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I will be fun reading the 3 banks coming fy reports....... Siwomp      ( Date: 15-Feb-2016 15:45) Posted: How much the drop in profit depents on a lots of things.........
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Siwomp Supreme	15-Feb-2016 15:45        Siwomp About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How much the drop in profit depents on a lots of things.........
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Qanghoo Supreme	15-Feb-2016 15:39        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Brother, agree with u fully.  N the thing abt OCBC is that actual core profit from banking ops increased by a significant 25% just in the most recent 3Q rpt card u know.  Yet, we have people now saying maybe will have signifncant drop in profit or even loss.  How significant the anticipated drop or loss wld likely be nobody said anything cos just talk only mah.  Talk is always free one.  john_ric      ( Date: 15-Feb-2016 14:50) Posted: if you have faith in a  counter then you should hold it and dont care about the noises. profits is similar to share price. They fluctuates... up and down , down and up. We dont sell and buy a house based on price do  we? you sell may be you have profit, need cash, down or upgrade. in other words, there is a purpose. But decision is not based on price per se. most people dont sell when house price is down. just HOLD. This is called LONG term investment. Warren Buffett - do not look at share price too often.
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Siwomp Supreme	15-Feb-2016 14:55        Siwomp About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	imho,.profitability will definately be hurt, due to the potential rate race by the cbks, falling properties prices, falling biz confident, falling oil price, potential falling sgd exchange rate, slow down in china....etcs.... long term bbs are probably waiting foe more clarity before taking big bites....dyodd
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john_ric Supreme	15-Feb-2016 14:50        john_ric About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if you have faith in a  counter then you should hold it and dont care about the noises. profits is similar to share price. They fluctuates... up and down , down and up. We dont sell and buy a house based on price do  we? you sell may be you have profit, need cash, down or upgrade. in other words, there is a purpose. But decision is not based on price per se. most people dont sell when house price is down. just HOLD. This is called LONG term investment. Warren Buffett - do not look at share price too often.
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investshare Supreme	15-Feb-2016 14:32        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I don' t think anyone bet that it will collapse. But just significant drop of profit or losses will drive the share price lower, and that' s enough to hurt investors. GuavaXF30      ( Date: 15-Feb-2016 14:11) Posted: Totally agree with you. All 3 big banks are crucial to SG economy. If you are betting on them going burst you might as well sell your property (and everything else) here and move to Iskandar. If you dare, that is. Qanghoo      ( Date: 15-Feb-2016 10:36) Posted: Brother, this is precisely what I mean.  Will they allow the bomb to drop?  I think people just do not understand how  close the regulatory  control is, n how  strong the supervisory  regime is.  Everything here seems well n effectively managed.  That the who banking sector has evolved from a fragmented playgrd of a multitude of small bks to three solid sizeable banking institutions is not by chance.  Go back to the research n see.  If any one of these three pillars were allowed to collapse, imagine how big the detriment to  confidence it' d be not only for the financial sector, but the economy as a whole too - the ripple effects, the loss of jobs, etc, etc.  No, it' d never happen here, for so long as the political landscape remains .... this is no  Baring or Lehman' s land.
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GuavaXF30 Elite	15-Feb-2016 14:11        GuavaXF30 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Totally agree with you. All 3 big banks are crucial to SG economy. If you are betting on them going burst you might as well sell your property (and everything else) here and move to Iskandar. If you dare, that is. Qanghoo      ( Date: 15-Feb-2016 10:36) Posted: Brother, this is precisely what I mean.  Will they allow the bomb to drop?  I think people just do not understand how  close the regulatory  control is, n how  strong the supervisory  regime is.  Everything here seems well n effectively managed.  That the who banking sector has evolved from a fragmented playgrd of a multitude of small bks to three solid sizeable banking institutions is not by chance.  Go back to the research n see.  If any one of these three pillars were allowed to collapse, imagine how big the detriment to  confidence it' d be not only for the financial sector, but the economy as a whole too - the ripple effects, the loss of jobs, etc, etc.  No, it' d never happen here, for so long as the political landscape remains .... this is no  Baring or Lehman' s land.  GuavaXF30      ( Date: 15-Feb-2016 09:46) Posted: If OCBC close shop, do you think the Goverment will do nothing and allow this to happen ? Look what happen to Muddy Water when they tried to create a run on OLAM. They became Bloody Water.
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