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fuzzyshares Veteran	04-Dec-2022 14:39        fuzzyshares About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	YZJSH is approaching the pre-split level of 1.50's, even though YZJFH is not doing well, it's a consolation when holding both stocks. While both YZJSH and YZJFH are favourite short selling targets, YZJSH is a retail and momentum stock, more than often positive news carried the stock. Hopefully positive news can carry YZJFH too. Let's see what happens. Nippon72      ( Date: 04-Dec-2022 13:41) Posted: So how does one interpret this meptahor of yours? To buy SB or FH or both?   fuzzyshares      ( Date: 04-Dec-2022 13:33) Posted: A Tale of Two Cities. The child YZJFH is a spin-off from the father YZJSH. YZJFH is a David Copperfield but it turn out the father is ruled by the son while the son is helmed by the father. Confused? Here's why. Ren Letian is the executive chairman and chief executive of Yangzijiang Shipbuilding, YZJSH. YZJFH, on the other hand is helmed by Ren's father, Ren Yuanlin. One of the morals in A Tale of Two Cities is that things are not always as they seem. Somebody who appears to be no-good and disreputable could become the most righteous person in the world. Individuals who appear to seek justice may be bloodthirsty in the end.
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Nippon72 Veteran	04-Dec-2022 13:41        Nippon72 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood: Yells: "Dude, is ALWAYS Time in the market than Timing the market! "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So how does one interpret this meptahor of yours? To buy SB or FH or both?   fuzzyshares      ( Date: 04-Dec-2022 13:33) Posted: A Tale of Two Cities. The child YZJFH is a spin-off from the father YZJSH. YZJFH is a David Copperfield but it turn out the father is ruled by the son while the son is helmed by the father. Confused? Here's why. Ren Letian is the executive chairman and chief executive of Yangzijiang Shipbuilding, YZJSH. YZJFH, on the other hand is helmed by Ren's father, Ren Yuanlin. One of the morals in A Tale of Two Cities is that things are not always as they seem. Somebody who appears to be no-good and disreputable could become the most righteous person in the world. Individuals who appear to seek justice may be bloodthirsty in the end.
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fuzzyshares Veteran	04-Dec-2022 13:33        fuzzyshares About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	A Tale of Two Cities. The child YZJFH is a spin-off from the father YZJSH. YZJFH is a David Copperfield but it turn out the father is ruled by the son while the son is helmed by the father. Confused? Here's why. Ren Letian is the executive chairman and chief executive of Yangzijiang Shipbuilding, YZJSH. YZJFH, on the other hand is helmed by Ren's father, Ren Yuanlin. One of the morals in A Tale of Two Cities is that things are not always as they seem. Somebody who appears to be no-good and disreputable could become the most righteous person in the world. Individuals who appear to seek justice may be bloodthirsty in the end.
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MambaFinancial89 Veteran	04-Dec-2022 13:00        MambaFinancial89 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Yells: "Be greedy when others are fearful. "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I hope market participants can slowly change their perception of FH being a " Chinese" company. Ex MAS, GIC, EDBI and SGX head honchos, who are all Singaporean and residing in Singapore, are running the company today... sgng123      ( Date: 03-Dec-2022 23:47) Posted: Most likely important news from YZJFH out next week or so since share buyback halt for 1 MTH in accord of buyback mandate of not doing buyback 1 MTH before impt announcement which would affect stock price. Chill everyone since YZJFH alrdy hit rock bottom for no reason, most likely the incoming news gonna be positive. This another extreme case of undervalued Chinese company with respect to the cash hold. YZJ FH current hold no asset, it all DI , cash and financial products. With DI mature 90% next year, it gonna hold even more cash. It kind of getting more and more craze even company founder puzzled by poor market reception.
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n3wbie Elite	04-Dec-2022 10:43        n3wbie About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 1   x 1  Alert Admin	If they had done most of the capital deployment when the market was at its low and catch the trough, that would be the most opportune time and yield greatest returns. That being said, it is impossible to sell the highest and buy at the lowest. It is all dependent on the timing of their deployment of capital into securities as they rotate it out of debt instruments.
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Amateurinvestor Veteran	04-Dec-2022 10:40        Amateurinvestor About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	High risk play but with SUPER good returns if management of YZJFH can find its way out of the woods, next 5-6 months will be very crucial
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pasttime Supreme	04-Dec-2022 09:05        pasttime About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "gold silver are real money. not others iou."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	every business has its opportunities and difficulties. for loan business most important is the ability of the borrower to pay. second the collateral for the loan, aggresive bank has even use statistic like 2 % of this type of borrower will default, then use higher interest to balance off the -ve effect. many other ways.  DI business has been profitable for yzjfh for years. their knowledge, contact in the field is strong. should continue. if risk is now higher then can reduce risk by lending smaller amount and leand to lower risk people. which they have done by reducing the percentage of DI business. do new no better then do old and tested business. no need to change for the people who don' t believe. difficult to win these over. there are people who understand and believe in the DI business. have business update better then no have. more important is an indication of dividend range to expect in may 2023. facts. no buy back since 1 Nov 2022.  it means on a per day basis yzjfh can buy back more shares before they reached agm for a new mandate to buy back. the ability to provide liquidity for short increased.  for traders if short cannot bring down the price to make profit, logical trader will look for better target. or even accumulate and do reverse.    about 6 months to dividend pay out . if 2 cents dividend then the annualised return is > 10%. dyodd
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sgng123 Supreme	04-Dec-2022 03:04        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Maybe YZJFH decide to exit DI since it so unpopular with international investors, then maybe we see the real value cos it insane to see mid cap financial company sink so low as YZJFH. We can make do with low dividend as long YZJFH exit DI and stock price recovered to proper valuation. China DI is toxic for international investors, it destroy companies stock capitalisation.
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Amateurinvestor Veteran	03-Dec-2022 23:50        Amateurinvestor About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	If news really out next week then timing is impeccable with loosening of lock down measures in China sgng123      ( Date: 03-Dec-2022 23:47) Posted: Most likely important news from YZJFH out next week or so since share buyback halt for 1 MTH in accord of buyback mandate of not doing buyback 1 MTH before impt announcement which would affect stock price. Chill everyone since YZJFH alrdy hit rock bottom for no reason, most likely the incoming news gonna be positive. This another extreme case of undervalued Chinese company with respect to the cash hold. YZJ FH current hold no asset, it all DI , cash and financial products. With DI mature 90% next year, it gonna hold even more cash. It kind of getting more and more craze even company founder puzzled by poor market reception.
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sgng123 Supreme	03-Dec-2022 23:47        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Most likely important news from YZJFH out next week or so since share buyback halt for 1 MTH in accord of buyback mandate of not doing buyback 1 MTH before impt announcement which would affect stock price. Chill everyone since YZJFH alrdy hit rock bottom for no reason, most likely the incoming news gonna be positive. This another extreme case of undervalued Chinese company with respect to the cash hold. YZJ FH current hold no asset, it all DI , cash and financial products. With DI mature 90% next year, it gonna hold even more cash. It kind of getting more and more craze even company founder puzzled by poor market reception.
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vicloo Supreme	03-Dec-2022 13:58        vicloo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hope your prediction comes true... 👍 👍 👍 . Many stucked >40c ss2017.      ( Date: 03-Dec-2022 13:20) Posted: YZJFH share price stuck at a lower mid range 31 to 37. Next level 38 to 46 will be in next year. Since last two months price stayed at lowe range it was the lowest it can go.
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ss2017. Supreme	03-Dec-2022 13:20        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	YZJFH share price stuck at a lower mid range 31 to 37. Next level 38 to 46 will be in next year. Since last two months price stayed at lowe range it was the lowest it can go.
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soeteono Senior	03-Dec-2022 11:40        soeteono About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If yzjsb made 3rdQ update , most likely FH will do likewise .
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HVRRVH Elite	03-Dec-2022 10:01        HVRRVH About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	From the L& T presentation, the vibe I got is that 3Q update is not a confirm thing. Many companies also didn' t do 3Q update, it is not mandatory. 3Q update or not, so far, there have been constant relese of information for public consumption. I think from these releases, we already can gauge how the company intended to grow and chart their way forward. If we want to know in term of dollars & cents, perhaps can wait till FY results. If there is no 3Q update and as investors we think it is harbinger that the company is not profitable, or not profitable enough, then we should act accordingly. Amateurinvestor      ( Date: 03-Dec-2022 08:41) Posted: I hope I am wrong but got a feeling very negative news. Normally no news or late news can only imply that the news is not positive vicloo      ( Date: 03-Dec-2022 08:29) Posted: True, if update not meaning and no dividend announcement better no update lo
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Amateurinvestor Veteran	03-Dec-2022 08:41        Amateurinvestor About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	I hope I am wrong but got a feeling very negative news. Normally no news or late news can only imply that the news is not positive vicloo      ( Date: 03-Dec-2022 08:29) Posted: True, if update not meaning and no dividend announcement better no update lol n3wbie      ( Date: 02-Dec-2022 22:10) Posted: Depends if its a good update. It is however voluntary disclosures so in any way it shows that they are trying to demonstrate good governance though the timing seems slightly late as we are now already into Dec - unless the company can give more meaningful and material updates. Would look forward to any insights to how they have deployed capital
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vicloo Supreme	03-Dec-2022 08:29        vicloo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	True, if update not meaning and no dividend announcement better no update lol n3wbie      ( Date: 02-Dec-2022 22:10) Posted: Depends if its a good update. It is however voluntary disclosures so in any way it shows that they are trying to demonstrate good governance though the timing seems slightly late as we are now already into Dec - unless the company can give more meaningful and material updates. Would look forward to any insights to how they have deployed capital. Segarvale      ( Date: 02-Dec-2022 17:38) Posted: May i know where you heard it from..will be great if there is an update..late is better than none 😝
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n3wbie Elite	03-Dec-2022 07:25        n3wbie About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 1   x 1  Alert Admin	Overall sentiment and confidence towards China appears to be improving as evidenced by the market performance over the past week on the back of gradual easing measures. Lets see what the update shares.
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sgng123 Supreme	03-Dec-2022 02:20        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The business update hopefully is meaningful, giving clarity on matured DI next year and moving of cash into sg. The more money injected into sg would boost stock price, best give a timeline on it. Market really hate China DI even though it give very high yield, the less expose yzjfh to it the better for the stock price. Year end 500m most likely would transfer to sg, next year hope more would transfer. DI is poisonous to stock price just by looking how well YZJSH doing after spinoff. IF possible YZJFH should exit DI when 90% mature next year. Lot of financial products giving very decent yield due to aggressive fed rate hike.
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ss2017. Supreme	02-Dec-2022 22:31        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Rmb recovered from 7.32 to 7.02 against USD recently. Hope rmb is stronger against Singapore dollars then that might be the time to bring in more money to Singapore convert to $S and USD. Let's see their future plans!! n3wbie      ( Date: 02-Dec-2022 22:10) Posted: Depends if its a good update. It is however voluntary disclosures so in any way it shows that they are trying to demonstrate good governance though the timing seems slightly late as we are now already into Dec - unless the company can give more meaningful and material updates. Would look forward to any insights to how they have deployed capital. Segarvale      ( Date: 02-Dec-2022 17:38) Posted: May i know where you heard it from..will be great if there is an update..late is better than none 😝
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n3wbie Elite	02-Dec-2022 22:10        n3wbie About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Depends if its a good update. It is however voluntary disclosures so in any way it shows that they are trying to demonstrate good governance though the timing seems slightly late as we are now already into Dec - unless the company can give more meaningful and material updates. Would look forward to any insights to how they have deployed capital. Segarvale      ( Date: 02-Dec-2022 17:38) Posted: May i know where you heard it from..will be great if there is an update..late is better than none 😝 MambaFinancial89      ( Date: 02-Dec-2022 17:07) Posted: Heard that the 3Q22 business update may be out over the weekend. Perhaps that' s why there have been no SBBs for quite some time. Along with the 3 news pieces over the past few weeks which likely prevented SBBs.
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