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autojogg Member	03-Jun-2014 09:03        autojogg About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wah....tohhhhhh
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halleluyah Supreme	03-Jun-2014 09:02        halleluyah About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	news out....so run rd liao
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Spivvy Elite	03-Jun-2014 09:02        Spivvy About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	TOH!!!!!!!!!
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GuavaXF30 Elite	03-Jun-2014 09:02        GuavaXF30 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oh Oh. hem2998      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 09:01) Posted: sell on news? Peterngchinheng      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 08:54) Posted: Open at $1.22 only
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hem2998 Veteran	03-Jun-2014 09:01        hem2998 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	sell on news? Peterngchinheng      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 08:54) Posted: Open at $1.22 only! Truthee      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 07:31) Posted: Wow, all this years of studying . I conclude , fa also can be used to convince me whatever I am doing is correct. Pex cannot, then use ntax. Haha. Cheong are....... How about future pe?
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ozone2002 Supreme	03-Jun-2014 09:00        ozone2002 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hankore Environment Tech Group has on 2 June 2014 entered into a conditional sale and purchase agreement to acquire the entire issued and paid-up share capital of the China Everbright Water Investments for a total consideration of approximately SGD 1.2 billion, which will be satisfied entirely by way of an allotment and issue of 1,940,269,305 Consideration Shares. Upon Completion, the Vendor will own 78%  of the Company and the Company shall be re-named as China Everbright Water Limited.  The Company will own a total of 32 waste-water treatment plants (with a designed capacity of 3,400,000 tons per day), 4 reusable water projects (with a designed capacity of 62,000 tons per day), 1 waste-water source heat pump project which services an area covering 125,000m2 , 2 completed Build-Transfer projects (with a designed capacity of 110,000 tons per day), 56km pipeline network and 10 pump stations (investment scale equivalent to 250,000 tons per day). (Closing Price: S$1.205, Halt)
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Peterngchinheng Senior	03-Jun-2014 08:54        Peterngchinheng About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Open at $1.22 only! Truthee      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 07:31) Posted: Wow, all this years of studying . I conclude , fa also can be used to convince me whatever I am doing is correct. Pex cannot, then use ntax. Haha. Cheong are....... How about future pe? leeeta      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 00:47) Posted: From another forum... a) Based on new enlarged NTA per share. Because CEI injecting S$1.2 Bn worth of assets against 1.94 Bn new Hankore shares, the enlarged NTA per share is 34 cts. I will sell everything to BUY Hankore at 34 cts!!   b) Based on market cap i.e. $1.20 per shares of old Hankore (S$509.1 M) Plus S$1.2 Bn, the market cap per share is 75 cts. Don' t believe this correct as we are not factoring potential growth with new implicit support of CEI Group.   c) Based on Price to NTA.....this becomes very interesting as we make comparison with existing players in the same industry....for example - Boustead 2.74 X - United Envtech 5.48 X - SIIC 3.83 X   Average Price/NTA of the above companies is 4 X....applying this 4 X Price/NTA on the enlarged Hankore...$1.36 X   THEREFORE.....I think Hankore should trade  S$1.36  (assume 4 X) to  S$1.70  (assume 5 X).   HUAT AH!!!
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hem2998 Veteran	03-Jun-2014 08:48        hem2998 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	All the best and congrats!   leeeta      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 00:47) Posted: From another forum... a) Based on new enlarged NTA per share. Because CEI injecting S$1.2 Bn worth of assets against 1.94 Bn new Hankore shares, the enlarged NTA per share is 34 cts. I will sell everything to BUY Hankore at 34 cts!!   b) Based on market cap i.e. $1.20 per shares of old Hankore (S$509.1 M) Plus S$1.2 Bn, the market cap per share is 75 cts. Don' t believe this correct as we are not factoring potential growth with new implicit support of CEI Group.   c) Based on Price to NTA.....this becomes very interesting as we make comparison with existing players in the same industry....for example - Boustead 2.74 X - United Envtech 5.48 X - SIIC 3.83 X   Average Price/NTA of the above companies is 4 X....applying this 4 X Price/NTA on the enlarged Hankore...$1.36 X   THEREFORE.....I think Hankore should trade  S$1.36  (assume 4 X) to  S$1.70  (assume 5 X).   HUAT AH!!! Truthee      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 00:25) Posted: YOu are right!!!! hahahaha
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GuavaXF30 Elite	03-Jun-2014 08:47        GuavaXF30 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Still to early to real y tell but from the buy and sell pre-opening Q seems like people are not impressed with the deal. Hope it will correct for those vested. Good luck all. Truthee      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 07:31) Posted: Wow, all this years of studying . I conclude , fa also can be used to convince me whatever I am doing is correct. Pex cannot, then use ntax. Haha. Cheong are....... How about future pe? leeeta      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 00:47) Posted: From another forum... a) Based on new enlarged NTA per share. Because CEI injecting S$1.2 Bn worth of assets against 1.94 Bn new Hankore shares, the enlarged NTA per share is 34 cts. I will sell everything to BUY Hankore at 34 cts!!   b) Based on market cap i.e. $1.20 per shares of old Hankore (S$509.1 M) Plus S$1.2 Bn, the market cap per share is 75 cts. Don' t believe this correct as we are not factoring potential growth with new implicit support of CEI Group.   c) Based on Price to NTA.....this becomes very interesting as we make comparison with existing players in the same industry....for example - Boustead 2.74 X - United Envtech 5.48 X - SIIC 3.83 X   Average Price/NTA of the above companies is 4 X....applying this 4 X Price/NTA on the enlarged Hankore...$1.36 X   THEREFORE.....I think Hankore should trade  S$1.36  (assume 4 X) to  S$1.70  (assume 5 X).   HUAT AH!!!
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Truthee Senior	03-Jun-2014 07:31        Truthee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wow, all this years of studying . I conclude , fa also can be used to convince me whatever I am doing is correct. Pex cannot, then use ntax. Haha. Cheong are....... How about future pe? leeeta      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 00:47) Posted: From another forum... a) Based on new enlarged NTA per share. Because CEI injecting S$1.2 Bn worth of assets against 1.94 Bn new Hankore shares, the enlarged NTA per share is 34 cts. I will sell everything to BUY Hankore at 34 cts!!   b) Based on market cap i.e. $1.20 per shares of old Hankore (S$509.1 M) Plus S$1.2 Bn, the market cap per share is 75 cts. Don' t believe this correct as we are not factoring potential growth with new implicit support of CEI Group.   c) Based on Price to NTA.....this becomes very interesting as we make comparison with existing players in the same industry....for example - Boustead 2.74 X - United Envtech 5.48 X - SIIC 3.83 X   Average Price/NTA of the above companies is 4 X....applying this 4 X Price/NTA on the enlarged Hankore...$1.36 X   THEREFORE.....I think Hankore should trade  S$1.36  (assume 4 X) to  S$1.70  (assume 5 X).   HUAT AH!!! Truthee      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 00:25) Posted: YOu are right!!!! hahahaha
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leeeta Elite	03-Jun-2014 00:47        leeeta About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "FA plus TA = Huat all the way."
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	From another forum... a) Based on new enlarged NTA per share. Because CEI injecting S$1.2 Bn worth of assets against 1.94 Bn new Hankore shares, the enlarged NTA per share is 34 cts. I will sell everything to BUY Hankore at 34 cts!!   b) Based on market cap i.e. $1.20 per shares of old Hankore (S$509.1 M) Plus S$1.2 Bn, the market cap per share is 75 cts. Don' t believe this correct as we are not factoring potential growth with new implicit support of CEI Group.   c) Based on Price to NTA.....this becomes very interesting as we make comparison with existing players in the same industry....for example - Boustead 2.74 X - United Envtech 5.48 X - SIIC 3.83 X   Average Price/NTA of the above companies is 4 X....applying this 4 X Price/NTA on the enlarged Hankore...$1.36 X   THEREFORE.....I think Hankore should trade  S$1.36  (assume 4 X) to  S$1.70  (assume 5 X).   HUAT AH!!! Truthee      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 00:25) Posted: YOu are right!!!! hahahaha Jackpot2010      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 00:21) Posted: 1S$ = 4.98 Rmb Post - EPS = 0.10 Rmb = $0.02 Current sh px = $1.19 PE = 59.5 times NTA = 1.44 Rmb = $0.289 NAV = 1.56 Rmb = $0.313
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Truthee Senior	03-Jun-2014 00:25        Truthee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	YOu are right!!!! hahahaha Jackpot2010      ( Date: 03-Jun-2014 00:21) Posted: 1S$ = 4.98 Rmb Post - EPS = 0.10 Rmb = $0.02 Current sh px = $1.19 PE = 59.5 times NTA = 1.44 Rmb = $0.289 NAV = 1.56 Rmb = $0.313
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Jackpot2010 Master	03-Jun-2014 00:21        Jackpot2010 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	1S$ = 4.98 Rmb Post - EPS = 0.10 Rmb = $0.02 Current sh px = $1.19 PE = 59.5 times NTA = 1.44 Rmb = $0.289 NAV = 1.56 Rmb = $0.313
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Truthee Senior	02-Jun-2014 23:52        Truthee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Pre was 0.05, so at $1.20, its trading at 24 times so post 0.1, at 24 times, we are looking at $2.40, with drop in gearing, they can improve R by taking more cheap debt and expanding..... But NAV dropped (ignore NTA), so me think 1.80 in short term is about right .... VESTED
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pjnecy Member	02-Jun-2014 23:05        pjnecy About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Noob with FA here, but looking at their illustration of effects of the acquisition on EPS: Pre acquisition 0.05 Post acquisition 0.10. Thats 2x earnings after factoring in dilution.. Can FA experts please comment?
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steven080967 Senior	02-Jun-2014 22:57        steven080967 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "careful trader/investor"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i bet hankore investors can' t sleep tonight, not from worry but from anticipation of how much money in profit when the market opens, good luck to all!
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hem2998 Veteran	02-Jun-2014 22:53        hem2998 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If the shares are being issued at 70c and the stock is trading at $1.20.... A lot of potential may alr been factored in?
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kenkhyang Member	02-Jun-2014 22:43        kenkhyang About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi brothers, Not sure i am right, i feel i am some how short change as a very small share holder. Few days back, the share has consolidated from 10:1 where its  5000+ mil shared become 500+ mil and now another injection and all original share holder (100 percent)   become 20 percents (500mil) and the China Bright will own 80 percents (2000mil). Total is 2500mil shares in markets. I suddendly feel i am so small. Now i also understand why the deal never go thru last month. If deal go through last month before 10:1 consolidation, it  will become the biggest laughing issue in sgx market where the toal share floating after Everbright injection is 25000 mil shares or 25000 000 000 shares. If i am a fund manage, i will be not be so happy but lucky i am not haha :) Tks for reading bro...
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reknab Member	02-Jun-2014 22:33        reknab About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sure, I' ll PM you leeeta      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 21:38) Posted: can enligthen me? maybe   i missed something. reknab      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 21:36) Posted: Still not enough shares after increase in authorised share cap if there is no rs
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leeeta Elite	02-Jun-2014 22:01        leeeta About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "FA plus TA = Huat all the way."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ok guys cccx calling me to the peak..drink champagne..tok tomorrow.
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