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kelvinLim123 Master	18-Jun-2013 02:18        kelvinLim123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	And to said there are no crises right now is also not correct. First, China is definitely not OK, Japan Bond is a big problem. And Europe is still not solve, you read this.......everyone is blowing bubbles. http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/premium/editorial-opinion/opinion/bubble-thats-primed-explode-not-just-pop-20130613 this is not my opinion, just to share to said no crise is total ignorant. SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 17-Jun-2013 22:12) Posted: I feel I have a responsibility to share this. The whole objective of QE, whether from Japan or US, is to promote lending and encourage spending, so as to spur up their economies. However, whether if all these money goes to the consumers or not, it is really very hard to determine. If most money is kept in those banks or used to buy stocks, there will be an asset bubble as most of these money from QE don't go to where they should go to. Ultimately, this bubble may burst, driving stock prices down. I have no intention to scare people, just feel that when we invest or trade, we should have awareness and plan for rainy days. I am not trying to influence people's style or strategy of investing, but just feel i can share some food for thought. 1) Never invest more than you are willing to lose. 2) Invest in fundamentally sound stocks so that even when a market crashes, their fall is more " cushioned" and there's always chance of rebounding back to it's fundamental level.  Having said this, it is also important to have a 3) stop loss. 4) Lastly, is good to have a long time horizon and be able to hold. As Warren Buffet once mentioned - as long as you take care of the downside, the upside will take care of itself. To me, this means holding for as long as you can until it reaches your target price, and only to consider selling when the fundamentals of the stock has changed, or when a strong support level has been broken and you can sell to lock profits first. I never feel that investing in stock market is to follow what BBs buy and you buy accordingly. As i also mentioned before, there are good and bad BBs, depending on his philosophy, of stocks and life. I believe most BBs also invest in fundamental stocks, and that's how they can grow their money to become so rich. Of course, they have large capital to start with, I won't deny that. Not to forget institutional investors like banks and fund managers also, I believe they do also invest in fundamentals. I am not saying investing in fundamentals is a guaranteed way to make money, as market nowadays are getting more and more irrational. However, investing in fundamentals offers a large margin of safety, so that when crisis strikes, we are still more or less " shielded" .Ultimately, your money your call. No one can control what you want to do with your money. And in case i am being accused of a doomsayer feeling that the market will crash, I definitely don't feel there is any impending crisis now, I hope. Lastly, even though it may sound silly, but from the profits you earn in the stock market, spend at least some of them so as to spur the economy also, be it buying things you really want/need, or even a simple yet occasional expensive dinner with your loved ones.. May all huat!! =)
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kelvinLim123 Master	18-Jun-2013 02:13        kelvinLim123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That is not correct. Follow BB means follow the trend, the trend is your friend. If you do not follow BB, then u are standing in front of a moving train. U are right to said to have a stop loss for all vestment, irrespective of whether short , long or whatever term. To stubbornly hold to so call fundamental stock in a down market is self defecting. In a down market even the deepest of the blue chip will not be spare. They will still be sell down, so why foolishly follow it down, and up and gain nothing, u shd cut and buy at the low, even if it is not the lowest, at least, your chance of profit is greater. And most BB dont invest in fundamental stock, only institutional does, BB are out to suck retail blood. that is how they become rich, and BB got deep pocket which most of you here don't. Your no 2 only sound reasonable, if you are a value invester, not trader, u shd always buy blue chip , not penny, penny, mid and small cap are for trading . Your points are nothing new but what we have always heard, Just thanks for the reminder, SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 17-Jun-2013 22:12) Posted: I feel I have a responsibility to share this. The whole objective of QE, whether from Japan or US, is to promote lending and encourage spending, so as to spur up their economies. However, whether if all these money goes to the consumers or not, it is really very hard to determine. If most money is kept in those banks or used to buy stocks, there will be an asset bubble as most of these money from QE don't go to where they should go to. Ultimately, this bubble may burst, driving stock prices down. I have no intention to scare people, just feel that when we invest or trade, we should have awareness and plan for rainy days. I am not trying to influence people's style or strategy of investing, but just feel i can share some food for thought. 1) Never invest more than you are willing to lose. 2) Invest in fundamentally sound stocks so that even when a market crashes, their fall is more " cushioned" and there's always chance of rebounding back to it's fundamental level.  Having said this, it is also important to have a 3) stop loss. 4) Lastly, is good to have a long time horizon and be able to hold. As Warren Buffet once mentioned - as long as you take care of the downside, the upside will take care of itself. To me, this means holding for as long as you can until it reaches your target price, and only to consider selling when the fundamentals of the stock has changed, or when a strong support level has been broken and you can sell to lock profits first. I never feel that investing in stock market is to follow what BBs buy and you buy accordingly. As i also mentioned before, there are good and bad BBs, depending on his philosophy, of stocks and life. I believe most BBs also invest in fundamental stocks, and that's how they can grow their money to become so rich. Of course, they have large capital to start with, I won't deny that. Not to forget institutional investors like banks and fund managers also, I believe they do also invest in fundamentals. I am not saying investing in fundamentals is a guaranteed way to make money, as market nowadays are getting more and more irrational. However, investing in fundamentals offers a large margin of safety, so that when crisis strikes, we are still more or less " shielded" .Ultimately, your money your call. No one can control what you want to do with your money. And in case i am being accused of a doomsayer feeling that the market will crash, I definitely don't feel there is any impending crisis now, I hope. Lastly, even though it may sound silly, but from the profits you earn in the stock market, spend at least some of them so as to spur the economy also, be it buying things you really want/need, or even a simple yet occasional expensive dinner with your loved ones.. May all huat!! =)
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teeth53 Supreme	18-Jun-2013 00:02        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dow was up +180 points...STI up...?. GorgeousOng      ( Date: 17-Jun-2013 18:50) Posted: Dow future + 132 All mice... How is your heart beat now?
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teeth53 Supreme	17-Jun-2013 23:59        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dow was up 180 points or 1.2%. Regional bourses rally....STI huat huat...arhh. GorgeousOng      ( Date: 17-Jun-2013 18:50) Posted: Dow future + 132 All mice... How is your heart beat now?
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medivh Elite	17-Jun-2013 22:47        medivh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	1st time for a long time I see such informative contribution from forummer..   Thumbs up (" ,) SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 17-Jun-2013 22:12) Posted: I feel I have a responsibility to share this. The whole objective of QE, whether from Japan or US, is to promote lending and encourage spending, so as to spur up their economies. However, whether if all these money goes to the consumers or not, it is really very hard to determine. If most money is kept in those banks or used to buy stocks, there will be an asset bubble as most of these money from QE don't go to where they should go to. Ultimately, this bubble may burst, driving stock prices down. I have no intention to scare people, just feel that when we invest or trade, we should have awareness and plan for rainy days. I am not trying to influence people's style or strategy of investing, but just feel i can share some food for thought. 1) Never invest more than you are willing to lose. 2) Invest in fundamentally sound stocks so that even when a market crashes, their fall is more " cushioned" and there's always chance of rebounding back to it's fundamental level.  Having said this, it is also important to have a 3) stop loss. 4) Lastly, is good to have a long time horizon and be able to hold. As Warren Buffet once mentioned - as long as you take care of the downside, the upside will take care of itself. To me, this means holding for as long as you can until it reaches your target price, and only to consider selling when the fundamentals of the stock has changed, or when a strong support level has been broken and you can sell to lock profits first. I never feel that investing in stock market is to follow what BBs buy and you buy accordingly. As i also mentioned before, there are good and bad BBs, depending on his philosophy, of stocks and life. I believe most BBs also invest in fundamental stocks, and that's how they can grow their money to become so rich. Of course, they have large capital to start with, I won't deny that. Not to forget institutional investors like banks and fund managers also, I believe they do also invest in fundamentals. I am not saying investing in fundamentals is a guaranteed way to make money, as market nowadays are getting more and more irrational. However, investing in fundamentals offers a large margin of safety, so that when crisis strikes, we are still more or less " shielded" .Ultimately, your money your call. No one can control what you want to do with your money. And in case i am being accused of a doomsayer feeling that the market will crash, I definitely don't feel there is any impending crisis now, I hope. Lastly, even though it may sound silly, but from the profits you earn in the stock market, spend at least some of them so as to spur the economy also, be it buying things you really want/need, or even a simple yet occasional expensive dinner with your loved ones.. May all huat!! =)
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Blastoff Elite	17-Jun-2013 22:39        Blastoff About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thks for your sharing! SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 17-Jun-2013 22:12) Posted: I feel I have a responsibility to share this. The whole objective of QE, whether from Japan or US, is to promote lending and encourage spending, so as to spur up their economies. However, whether if all these money goes to the consumers or not, it is really very hard to determine. If most money is kept in those banks or used to buy stocks, there will be an asset bubble as most of these money from QE don't go to where they should go to. Ultimately, this bubble may burst, driving stock prices down. I have no intention to scare people, just feel that when we invest or trade, we should have awareness and plan for rainy days. I am not trying to influence people's style or strategy of investing, but just feel i can share some food for thought. 1) Never invest more than you are willing to lose. 2) Invest in fundamentally sound stocks so that even when a market crashes, their fall is more " cushioned" and there's always chance of rebounding back to it's fundamental level.  Having said this, it is also important to have a 3) stop loss. 4) Lastly, is good to have a long time horizon and be able to hold. As Warren Buffet once mentioned - as long as you take care of the downside, the upside will take care of itself. To me, this means holding for as long as you can until it reaches your target price, and only to consider selling when the fundamentals of the stock has changed, or when a strong support level has been broken and you can sell to lock profits first. I never feel that investing in stock market is to follow what BBs buy and you buy accordingly. As i also mentioned before, there are good and bad BBs, depending on his philosophy, of stocks and life. I believe most BBs also invest in fundamental stocks, and that's how they can grow their money to become so rich. Of course, they have large capital to start with, I won't deny that. Not to forget institutional investors like banks and fund managers also, I believe they do also invest in fundamentals. I am not saying investing in fundamentals is a guaranteed way to make money, as market nowadays are getting more and more irrational. However, investing in fundamentals offers a large margin of safety, so that when crisis strikes, we are still more or less " shielded" .Ultimately, your money your call. No one can control what you want to do with your money. And in case i am being accused of a doomsayer feeling that the market will crash, I definitely don't feel there is any impending crisis now, I hope. Lastly, even though it may sound silly, but from the profits you earn in the stock market, spend at least some of them so as to spur the economy also, be it buying things you really want/need, or even a simple yet occasional expensive dinner with your loved ones.. May all huat!! =)
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SFGuyRuleZ Veteran	17-Jun-2013 22:12        SFGuyRuleZ About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "You are your own master.."
x 2   x 0  Alert Admin	I feel I have a responsibility to share this. The whole objective of QE, whether from Japan or US, is to promote lending and encourage spending, so as to spur up their economies. However, whether if all these money goes to the consumers or not, it is really very hard to determine. If most money is kept in those banks or used to buy stocks, there will be an asset bubble as most of these money from QE don't go to where they should go to. Ultimately, this bubble may burst, driving stock prices down. I have no intention to scare people, just feel that when we invest or trade, we should have awareness and plan for rainy days. I am not trying to influence people's style or strategy of investing, but just feel i can share some food for thought. 1) Never invest more than you are willing to lose. 2) Invest in fundamentally sound stocks so that even when a market crashes, their fall is more " cushioned" and there's always chance of rebounding back to it's fundamental level.  Having said this, it is also important to have a 3) stop loss. 4) Lastly, is good to have a long time horizon and be able to hold. As Warren Buffet once mentioned - as long as you take care of the downside, the upside will take care of itself. To me, this means holding for as long as you can until it reaches your target price, and only to consider selling when the fundamentals of the stock has changed, or when a strong support level has been broken and you can sell to lock profits first. I never feel that investing in stock market is to follow what BBs buy and you buy accordingly. As i also mentioned before, there are good and bad BBs, depending on his philosophy, of stocks and life. I believe most BBs also invest in fundamental stocks, and that's how they can grow their money to become so rich. Of course, they have large capital to start with, I won't deny that. Not to forget institutional investors like banks and fund managers also, I believe they do also invest in fundamentals. I am not saying investing in fundamentals is a guaranteed way to make money, as market nowadays are getting more and more irrational. However, investing in fundamentals offers a large margin of safety, so that when crisis strikes, we are still more or less " shielded" .Ultimately, your money your call. No one can control what you want to do with your money. And in case i am being accused of a doomsayer feeling that the market will crash, I definitely don't feel there is any impending crisis now, I hope. Lastly, even though it may sound silly, but from the profits you earn in the stock market, spend at least some of them so as to spur the economy also, be it buying things you really want/need, or even a simple yet occasional expensive dinner with your loved ones.. May all huat!! =)
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ruready Supreme	17-Jun-2013 21:50        ruready About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Follow the micro penny , May be this is the last train"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyone have forex trading account,I'm new and don't have trade before but wanna to learnt it before open the account ?like saxo,cmc or plus500,,,which one is the best and how to withdrawal the fund ,just now I try the plus500 the Mobil trading is very easy but just want to find out how to withdraw money back,,,anyone here got trade plus 500 before?thank you
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Octavia Supreme	17-Jun-2013 21:46        Octavia About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	The Secret Trading Strategy From The 1930s That Hedge Funders Don't Want You To Know About See Link
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gufeng88 Veteran	17-Jun-2013 20:21        gufeng88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Short sell orders executed on 17 June 2013 http://www.sgx.com/wps/wcm/connect/sgx_en/home/company_disclosure/short_sale/short_sale_daily/DailyShortSell20130617.txt
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risktaker Supreme	17-Jun-2013 19:47        risktaker About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wanna go lido.... ? Bye bye...time up...
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risktaker Supreme	17-Jun-2013 19:26        risktaker About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	We expect fed to maintain its QE ..... while a few of the members have voiced for tapering....but economy recovery is not stable.... unemployment remains high.....inflation remains low..... fed are expected to stick on its bond buying program until september where seasonals effects may balance off the fed tapering..... Tapering may even be good during 4th qtr....  We maintain our STI year end target to 3812-3835.... Huat ah....
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GorgeousOng Supreme	17-Jun-2013 18:50        GorgeousOng About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Hehehaha...enjoy life n live to the fullest..."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dow future + 132 All mice... How is your heart beat now?
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risktaker Supreme	17-Jun-2013 18:00        risktaker About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Day 2 rebound.... tomorrow we will likely to break 3200 level and heading back to 3220 before consolidation..... for fed announcement...
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wendytan93 Member	17-Jun-2013 17:22        wendytan93 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Everything Is Obvious: Once You Know the Answer - Duncan J W"
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Watch out Japan can be much bigger problem than Greek. I am cautious optimistic. I start to buy today. But got to be careful about Japanese bond crisis.      I read this from my friend's blog http://investorsg.blogspot.sg/ Japanese bond crisis become our new focus. In past 20 years, Japanese Government relied on issuing bond. Total Government debt is around 250% GDP.   In the past, interest rate was low which was around 1%. But the total debt amount is huge. Therefore bond interest cost 25% of total Government revenue.  The new PM decided to drive interest rate down further by double the amount of their QE progromme to 7 T Yen. Lower interest rate would promote spending and investment. It could reverse deflation into 2% inflation. Small amount   of inflation may promote economic grow. Government bond with less than 1 % interest. If inflation would go up to 2%, bond holder's real interest rate will be 1% - 2%= -1%. Investors want to sell their bond immediately. Central bank's 7T bond purchasing can't meet sellers demand. Bond seller drive up both interest rate and currency. .....................   Visit http://investorsg.blogspot.sg/
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ozone2002 Supreme	17-Jun-2013 17:15        ozone2002 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks for respect :) In any case, one shouldn't follow one's post blindly be it someone who's experienced or having seniority in the forum.. but i always believe, that if  one were  to  buy stock on fundamentals at a reasonable margin of safety you will definitely profit in the long run.. gd luck dyodd SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 16-Jun-2013 16:03) Posted: I may be new to SJ, but i have been investing for a long time. Never have i lost any money, except when i just started. I don't consider myself a trader, but rather an investor. I look at long term, and not short term. I don't ask to reap profits in a short time, but just seek to continually grow my money. And never once i consider myself a greedy mouse, as much as you would like to think everyone who " play" in the stock market is. I shall not comment on your views about the stock market and your philosophy for investing or trading. Precisely because i am new to SJ, and from so many posts here in SJ, I am pretty shocked to see so many people has such a distorted view of the stock market and how much they want to earn in so short a time. What really is the essence and function of a stock market and what's the purpose of them serving the economy? Why do companies get listed? I am afraid many people here will just think of the stock market as a giant casino, which dictates what they are doing here and how they trade. Mice or pipers or sharks, whether for BBs or small-time retail investors, one's philosophy in life and views of the stock market will determine the kind of " game" u play in the stock market, and with it therefore comes certain rules for playing that game. Your rules may probably be right for the game you are playing, but that's your game, and not mine. So don't try to see me the way you see yourself. Shall say no further. Lastly, you do post some unbiased and nice facts and updates about indices and the market. I do appreciate because from all the information here, from you and others, I can spend less time sourcing for them. Good luck in your game!! =) kelvinLim123      ( Date: 16-Jun-2013 14:27) Posted: Retailer are mice, BB are the piper. It is the BB that move mkt, it s the greedy retailer like u and me that go for it and take their bait. U must follow the trend, the trend is your friend, thus follow smart money, not anyone here. All here are like u and me, small timer, u think all those so call sifu are really tofu. they are as good as zero, u want to trade, u go learn, not form here. not from asking me or anyone. u will pay a price for this,
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GorgeousOng Supreme	17-Jun-2013 17:08        GorgeousOng About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Hehehaha...enjoy life n live to the fullest..."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dow future +118 every day huat!
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GorgeousOng Supreme	17-Jun-2013 16:56        GorgeousOng About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Hehehaha...enjoy life n live to the fullest..."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dont worry God will keep some for you to buy n huat. Dulu saya church camp di lomping kereta kena rosak...Hati hati       halleluyah      ( Date: 17-Jun-2013 15:22) Posted: Arh baru check into my rm. Sangat letih sejak awal pagi, jam  8 sampai sekarang....church camp di JB. Spending sometime wth God n frens here. Anyway still hv to report to SJ here also....lol. Wishing all of u gd luck ya....huat big or small also gd lah.    GorgeousOng      ( Date: 17-Jun-2013 10:58) Posted: Hahaha! All the mice...curi makan di store room lah!!!sista halleluyah muking curi makan Chang beer n Cmz....or masih tidur belum keluar takut uncle kelvin!!!! Hahahaaa!!!
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Peter_Pan Supreme	17-Jun-2013 15:26        Peter_Pan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "kopi-o siu dai mai hum!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Smart monies are buying into the dips.
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halleluyah Supreme	17-Jun-2013 15:22        halleluyah About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Arh baru check into my rm. Sangat letih sejak awal pagi, jam  8 sampai sekarang....church camp di JB. Spending sometime wth God n frens here. Anyway still hv to report to SJ here also....lol. Wishing all of u gd luck ya....huat big or small also gd lah.    GorgeousOng      ( Date: 17-Jun-2013 10:58) Posted: Hahaha! All the mice...curi makan di store room lah!!!sista halleluyah muking curi makan Chang beer n Cmz....or masih tidur belum keluar takut uncle kelvin!!!! Hahahaaa!!!! Octavia      ( Date: 17-Jun-2013 10:07) Posted: Volume is low.All the mice scare and still hiding. Tak takut?...lol
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