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We are aware that CF has had very little co-relation with general market indexes.  It parted  differently  with STI in last 2 years as cn be seen from the attached chart.  It is more driven by performance and the news.  The last peak in 2011 was because of the news about Russian Pollock.  It was a booster but the deal broke thru and this was  faded in the background.    The latest is Copeinca except it is a differnet kettle of fish.. saddened with $1bln of debts instead of only $300 mil.  The real test is still yet to be seen although in the book of asset,  it looked attractive if one could discount the financial cost of over $100 mil per year. Mr. Ng said that the  target was to achieve 75% debt to equity ratio.. that was barely 4 months ago in March 2014 but now they have just raised a $200mil short term bond of 3 years with  rates of 8.5%.    just not  sure why they raise more debt and what' s in their mind and what they   are  selling right now in the  胡 芦 ..  Anyway,  it is interesting to see how this fish will develop from now on...
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25-Jul-2014 08:44
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Asia stocks mostly higher on S& P 500 record closeNyshka Chandran |  @NyshkaCNBC
26 Mins AgoCNBC.com 
Asian equity markets were mostly higher on the final trading day of the week following another record close for the  S& P 500  overnight. Earnings dominated trade on Wall Street, with  Facebook  shares soaring over 5 percent following Thursday' s strong results. But  Caterpillar  sank 3 percent after revenue fell short of estimates. On the economic front, weekly jobless claims fell to its lowest level in almost eight years while new home sales declined 8 percent in June. The  International Monetary Fund trimmed its global growth forecastsagain on Thursday, down to 3.4 percent this year from April' s forecast for 3.7 percent. Geopolitical risks over Ukraine and Iraq, as well as lowered expectations for key emerging markets, are expected to lead to softer growth.
Nikkei 0.4% higher Japanese shares rebounded after closing down 0.3 percent on Thursday after  June consumer price inflation  rose 3.3 percent on year, in line with market estimates. Gains were capped by a stronger  yen  as the currency strengthened to 101.7 per dollar after hitting a one-week low of 101.86 overnight. In earnings news, camera maker  Canon  slipped 0.2 percent despite second-quarter net income rising 21.6 percent on year.  NTT Docomo  rose over 2 percent ahead of reporting first-quarter earnings later this afternoon. ASX flat Australia' s benchmark  S& P ASX 200  retreated after posting its fourth straight six-year peak on Thursday. Retailer  Woolworths  crept down 0.4 percent after announcing that it received approval from regulators for its takeover offer for Country Road . Gold miners underperformed after bullion prices hit a one-month low overnight. Both  Evolution Mining  and  Alacer Gold  lost over 3 percent each. Read MoreEmerging markets rally to continue? Kospi up 0.1% South Korean shares snapped its two-day losing streak as investors digested the latest earnings. Steel giant  POSCO  jumped 1 percent after reporting a steep drop in profits due to the strong won. Meanwhile,  Shinhan Financial  rose 0.3 percent after announcing a near 10 percent rise in interim profit. Assistant Producer, CNBC Asia-Pacific
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25-Jul-2014 08:31
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Things just keep looking better and better for the Singapore market, which yesterday powered ahead to its eighth straight session of gains. C' mon got nothing to do with our posts. BIg boys are the one behind it. We sail with the wind or trend like what JMS said " Equilibrium is positive"   This time round, the local market was buoyed by regional enthusiasm in the wake of upbeat manufacturing numbers from China. Be patience and enjoy ....
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24-Jul-2014 20:13
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Prices are going up   .... Beef prices hit wallets, boost poultry' s appealKatie Little |  @KatieLittle
17 Hours AgoCNBC.com73
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COMMENTSJoin the DiscussionThere' s no beef about it, prices for red meat are surging and demand for chicken is benefiting. Chicken' s versatile appeal and its perception as a good source of protein that' s better for you than red meat are also driving sales, RBC Capital Markets' David Palmer said in a phone interview. " Chicken is really hot right now, and poultry is viewed as a source of protein that' s relatively less inflationary," Palmer said. " You' re seeing even the pizza players get into chicken."
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Amid surging beef costs and dampened production, chicken consumption has spiked, rising 17 percent from 2012, according to a recent report from the National Chicken Council.  " Choice retail value (for beef) is the highest it' s ever been," said William Hahn, an agricultural economist for the USDA. " We' ve had several years of drought. Several years of drought and very high feeds costs discourage supply." In the wake of rising food costs, restaurants have some protection since they typically lock in commodity contracts six to 18 months ahead of time. But persistently high prices eventually affect them, too. On average, beef accounts for about 14.4 percent of quick-service restaurants' cost of goods sold, according to a recent Piper Jaffray note. Fine-dining chains, such as  Ruth' s Hospitality Group  and  Del Frisco' s Restaurant Group, are even more exposed. Rising prices present restaurants with a few options: Pass along prices to consumers and risk driving them away, tinker with recipes to cut down on pricey items or absorb the extra costs. Source: Project Pie
" With commodity costs, among other restaurant-level expenses, expected to rise at a minimum with inflation, restaurants continue to be challenged to identify the correct menu price increases without jeopardizing same-store sales and profits," Piper Jaffray analysts wrote in a recent report. Read MoreChipotle blows past Wall Street estimates Some restaurants, including  burger chain  In-N-Out  and Chipotle, have already chosen to raise prices. Following  Chipotle' s  first nationwide price hike in three years, the Mexican food chain has seen some shift in demand from steak entrees, which rose more, to chicken, which increased less. " We expected some customers would trade down from steak to chicken as a result of the higher steak premium, and we have, in fact, seen some customers shift from steak to chicken," CFO John Hartung said in a call with analysts. Sanderson Farms, which produces, processes and distributes chicken, also recently noted a rise in chicken demand. Fresh chicken sales rose 8.1 percent in the second quarter from last spring, CEO Joe Sanderson told analysts. " We believe the improved demand we are enjoying ... is a result of higher priced beef, not more foot traffic in restaurants," he added. |
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24-Jul-2014 20:07
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European shares were higher on Thursday as a business activity index showed the euro zone rebounded in July. |
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24-Jul-2014 12:38
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Yes, taken profits too. Collect again ... like you said, this fish got potential. Once the machinery is overhaul, you see it jump.  Brain food .... Continue to have demand. Harvest from the ocean has been and will be the same but price will get dearer and dearer.  Equilibrium is positive  |
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24-Jul-2014 12:35
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Thx for sharing, that shd be the way, sell half of CF & switch to other counters that got potential chiong, dont miss the opportunity.
If CF suddenly surge, u still holding the other half, this will help u to reduce stress on heavy volume of CF, yet u still can make profit from other counters. |
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24-Jul-2014 10:07
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You right more and more positive news are being released. China July HSBC flash PMI at 52, an 18-month highCNBC.com staff |  @CNBC
18 Mins AgoCNBC.com8
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China' s manufacturing activity rose to an 18-month high in July, according to a private survey Thursday, as the government' s stimulus measures worked their magic, consolidating a recovery in the world' s second biggest economy. The HSBC flash Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI) came in at 52.0, better than a Reuters poll of 51.0 and following the 50.7 final reading in June, marking a second straight month of expansion. A reading 50 and above indicates expansion and a sub-50 figure points to a contraction. Australian dollar jumped to a fresh new two-week high of $0.9469 on the news, while Shanghai stocks were up nearly 1 percent. " It' s a very good strong number to start third quarter with, it' s the strongest reading since January this year. It just seems that mini stimulus are continuing to filter through," said John Zhu, Greater China economist at HSBC. China' s economy has been rebounding in recent months thanks to a series of support measures doled out by Beijing known as " mini-stimulus," to help avert a more pronounced slowdown. The government has indicated that it would tolerate slower growth as it rebalances its economy away from a focus on manufacturing and towards domestic consumption. The country' s gross domestic product for the second quarter grew an annual 7.5 percent, after a 7.4 percent growth in the first quarter. Beijing has a target of 7.5 percent expansion for the full year. |
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JMS213
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24-Jul-2014 10:02
Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !" |
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An  earnings  avalanche will hit the stock market Thursday, and analysts say that mostly good reports could continue to drive new highs. Of the roughly 150 companies reporting as of Wednesday morning, 68 percent beat earnings estimates, and earnings growth is coming in at about 5.5 percent, according to Thomson Reuters. " We' re seeing that the forward revision ratio we track has been ticking up&mdash not only are companies beating, but analyst are taking their forward numbers higher," said Andrew Burkly, head of institutional portfolio strategy at Oppenheimer Asset Management. " In general, you could say the better economic momentum we saw in the second quarter is playing out in earnings growth in the second quarter. The big one for me is going to be discretionary and retail." So far, consumer discretionary sector earnings are up by 4 percent, and technology is leading the gains, with earnings growth of the companies that have reported and are expected to report at 12.8 percent, according to Thomson Reuters. The  S& P 500  ended the day at a record 1,987, up 3 points and its 26th new high of the year. The  Dow  was off 26, dragged lower by  Boeing  andCaterpillar, which reports earnings Thursday but issued a negative sales report Wednesday. Boeing lost more than 2 percent after earnings. ButApple  was up nearly 2.5 percent after its late-day earnings Tuesday, and  Facebook  jumped nearly 4 percent to a record high in late trading  after its earnings. |
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JMS213
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24-Jul-2014 09:48
Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !" |
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Chinastar, not only that ... the announcer will say let arise and sing our national anthem " Marjulah Singapura" Enjoy and sing Marjulah Singapura
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JMS213
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24-Jul-2014 09:42
Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !" |
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You got more $$$ than us, you sell down we LL. Now with the big players also eyeing on the CF, continue to throw .... big players also know what is happening |
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JMS213
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24-Jul-2014 09:39
Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !" |
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Today, it is not small players lock horn with you. We are days away from 30 July and many more news to come.  Big players are coming in, as you have said this counter is low float. Market will decide .... enjoy   |
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JMS213
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24-Jul-2014 09:31
Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !" |
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This is just my wild guess, Blanchard is Mano. From I know he is very eloquent and knowledge.  When Stockpicker talked nonsense, he post once and left 
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JMS213
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24-Jul-2014 09:11
Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !" |
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Maybe they will do a married deal with you since you are wanting to buy into the CF. They have a lot of holdings in CF MAno must be quite popular, his name echo everywhere he goes to. Anybody can tell us who is he ?  |
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24-Jul-2014 08:57
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The key point of investment is diversify the risk , if u think u hv invested too much on this counter, i think is good to sell some at $0.38, $0.39, no point put too much effort on this counter & worry debt, worry weather issue, bond interes..& etc, there are still many oppurtunity on other countets, dont miss this round Bull run.
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JMS213
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24-Jul-2014 08:43
Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !" |
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Valuebuyer, I agreed with you CF is carrying high debt, poor cash flow ... from our little man perspective that is really bad. However, if you look at the bonds issue, and financial institutionals are taking up. We may need to rethink and refocus .. are we barking up the wrong tree The acquisition of Copeinca is hailed as a right and smart investment. Now they are needing the consent from Copeinca' s bondholders to expand their operation. Enjoy and smile .... the storm will be behind 
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24-Jul-2014 08:36
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This company is carry high debt, poor cash flow from operation, no doubt current low price already reflected the bad new, but its future doesnt look good, its better to sell half to diversify the risk, there are still many good counters to worth invest, dont waste too much effort on this coy. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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24-Jul-2014 08:15
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enjoy shopping before national day
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24-Jul-2014 07:25
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The good news is all about the higher fishmeal and oil prices due to lower catch but this too has become " sleepy" as the price hovered below $2,000 per ton.  Buyers are waiting.. waiting for the extension of the season,  then the effect of year end El-Nino.  If the extension did not come and there is El-Nino coming on stream,  then the price may jump over $2,000/= per ton.  As is,  nothing is certain.. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2014/07/23/fishmeal-oil-prices-high-but-market-sleepy-due-to-poor-fishing-signs-of-waning-el-nino/?utm_source=rss& utm_medium=rss& utm_campaign=fishmeal-oil-prices-high-but-market-sleepy-due-to-poor-fishing-signs-of-waning-el-nino July 23, 2014, 3:00 pm The uncertainty surrounding Peru&rsquo s anchovy fishing season has dampened demand for fishmeal and oil, causing a quiet market for now, said industry players. Super prime fishmeal prices from Peru, FOB, are in  the $1,930 per metric ton range as  just  two-thirds of the season&rsquo s anchovy quota has been caught, with less than ten days to go until the fishing ends. Some producers  feel prices could reach the $2,000/t mark once the season ends and buyers realize that the quota  will not be met. On the other hand, prices could go down as  normalized sea temperatures are giving hopes of a better second season (November &ndash January) ahead. On July 21, Peru&rsquo s El Nino institute  Enfen said the El Nino phenomenon affecting catches  should ebb away in August, with little risk of coming back by the end of the year.   |
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Long Long Long. Enjoy. |
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