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wait4opp
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23-Jul-2020 11:48
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With EGM kick off, the bright side of SCI is now shining....... BBs accumulating enough will break thru $2........ DYODD   |
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Waterrat
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23-Jul-2020 11:16
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Vested @ 1.76.......all huat 
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weekaykee
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23-Jul-2020 11:14
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I wonder the majority 50% vote required for the resolutions, would be based on the 50% of the total shareholdings of those present at the EGM or 50% of total shareholdings? 
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lailai
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23-Jul-2020 10:09
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Thanks for attaching the schedule and your forcast, which seems quite logical and achieveable. Enough time to reach their targets, imo, $1.90 by EGM, 2,20 when CE, and 1,20-1.40 after XE with scm shares credited into account.  EGM is faster than what many thought, in 2 weeks plus a few days, so likely to see price crawling by 1-2 bids per trading day to hit the target. Think once demerge, both SCI and SCM would benefit hugely, SCI without the loss making baggage, and SCM with a super strong godfather.  Just opinion. ![]()
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arctician1982
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23-Jul-2020 09:51
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i also hope its a done deal, i think SCI shares are trading 20% lower just because of the uncertainty, once its approved confirm 10-20% more. If i google dr wealth and other writeup, SCM SH seem to be very upset and want to vote no, all asking to be privatized at premium. 
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Longtermer
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23-Jul-2020 09:46
Yells: "A disciplined investor is a wealthy investor" |
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Nothing is 100%.. but you know who is the boss behind the boss behind bosses. Bet its done deal. Just 2 c.  
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arctician1982
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23-Jul-2020 09:40
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this deal not a 100% given right, SCM SH seems to be very upset about deal. I also read SCI BOD SH who own shares in SCM to also abstain from voting. | ||||
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Longtermer
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23-Jul-2020 09:33
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The time is near for the climb back.. many shorts will need to be covered to assist the rise. See you all at the EGM. Cheers   |
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lawsershare
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23-Jul-2020 08:49
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Sembcorp Industries : Extraordinary General Meeting To be Held on 11 August 2020https://www.marketscreener.com/SEMBCORP-INDUSTRIES-LTD-6491134/news/Sembcorp-Industries-Extraordinary-General-Meeting-To-be-Held-on-11-August-2020-30971278/Looks  like we will have a real time EGM remotely...
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josemmm123
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23-Jul-2020 08:05
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![]() PUMPING - prediction Stage 1 (EGM)  about $1.90 Stage 2 (CE) about $2.20 Stage 3 (XE)  about $1.20 to $1.40
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simpleguy123
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23-Jul-2020 07:31
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Here we go Here we go!! Like watching election, by the way what's the cutoff date for Shareholding of SCI to be considered for SMM rights alloted? Or only after voting?
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josemmm123
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23-Jul-2020 00:55
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EGM Earlier than expected... good.. ready popcorn for show. I  think BB accumulated enough below $1.80, time to pump liao tmr :) NOTICE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENERAL MEETING NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that an Extraordinary General Meeting (&ldquo SCI EGM&rdquo ) of Sembcorp Industries Ltd (the &ldquo Company&rdquo ) will be convened and held by way of electronic means on 11 August 2020 at 11.30 a.m. (Singapore time) for the purpose of considering and, if thought fit, passing, with or without modifications, the following resolution which will be proposed as an Ordinary Resolution. All capitalised terms used in this Notice which are not defined herein shall have the meanings ascribed to them in the Company&rsquo s circular to shareholders dated 22 July 2020 in relation to the Proposed Distribution (the &ldquo Circular&rdquo ). |
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simpleguy123
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22-Jul-2020 22:25
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Thats one way to look at it. But i rather not subtract out any valuation from my current Sembcorp Ind Share Prices. Instead i will treat my issued SMM Share Price as S$0, so that any SMM shares issued by rights is like a bonus.
Plus if the price of Sembcorp Ind share price post rights, is S$0.85/share. I will load up more for averaging down :)
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Octavia
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22-Jul-2020 21:48
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Sembcorp, SMM proposal to bring ' tangible' benefits public shareholders get deciding sayJUL 22, 2020 02:38 PM
THE massive two-part proposal that will see Sembcorp Industries (SCI) and Sembcorp Marine (SMM) parting ways will meet the loss-making marine unit&rsquo s &ldquo critical&rdquo liquidity needs, strengthen both companies&rsquo financial positions and is in the best interest of shareholders. This is according to the boards and management teams of SCI and SMM on Wednesday, as they responded to questions from the Securities Investors Association (Singapore), or Sias. In June, the two firms  proposed a S$2.1 billion recapitalisation  for SMM as well as a demerger from each other, which will result in Temasek Holdings having a direct stake in the marine arm. Sias had asked, among other things,  why they were undertaking the corporate action now, while economic conditions were poor.  
The companies on Wednesday replied that they had earlier been exploring multiple options to recapitalise SMM. The transaction was then proposed shortly after both the Covid-19 situation and the sudden drop in oil prices had triggered the immediate need for funds. DECIDING SAY Meanwhile, SMM clarified that its independent shareholders will have the deciding say in whether the rights issue will proceed. This is because these shareholders will be the only ones voting on the whitewash resolution, which is inter-conditional with the rights issue resolution. If the whitewash resolution is not approved, the rights issue will not proceed even if its resolution was approved. Sias had asked how the proposal&rsquo s structure gives SMM&rsquo s public shareholders an actual say in the matter, given that SCI owns 61 per cent of SMM and has undertaken to vote in favour of the rights issue, which requires a simple majority to be greenlit.  All SCI directors who hold shares in SMM will abstain from voting on the whitewash resolution. REFINANCING SMM also said that continuing to add debt is not a long-term solution, as this will further burden its balance sheet with higher gearing and interest payments at a time when its cash flow and financial flexibility are still constrained by the &ldquo challenging market dynamics and outlook&rdquo . The SMM group&rsquo s current balance sheet is already highly geared, and obtaining support from banks to maintain its current loan facilities is already &ldquo challenging&rdquo , it noted. &ldquo To request banks to provide additional loan facilities is therefore not realistic and also unlikely to be sufficient to meet our liquidity needs.&rdquo This was in response to Sias&rsquo question as to whether SMM will consider taking on new debt given that interest rates have fallen substantially in recent months. &lsquo A NEW WAY FORWARD&rsquo If approved, the rights issue will allow the SMM group to &ldquo chart a new way forward&rdquo by improving its cash position and strengthening the balance sheet. This will enable SMM to fund ongoing commitments, help the group compete for new high-value projects and ensure long-term viability, it said. Under &ldquo general corporate purposes&rdquo , the group will also use some of the S$0.6 billion raised to fund its research and development efforts, and strengthen core engineering and execution capabilities that will drive future growth initiatives. In the immediate term, SMM will focus on completing ongoing projects. To date, none of them have been cancelled.  Over the longer term, the company will diversify into clean energy growth areas, such as offshore wind, and expand into its established segments, such as the gas value chain. While all of SMM&rsquo s business segments have been affected by the current challenging business conditions, the repair and upgrades segment has remained profitable and generated over S$600 million in revenue for FY2019. SMM said it will continue to grow this segment. SUBORDINATED LOAN SCI clarified that under the proposal, it will not &ldquo write off&rdquo the S$1.5 billion outstanding principal loaned to SMM. Instead, the debt will be converted into an equity stake in SMM via the rights issue. Sias had asked how writing off a related party&rsquo s debt will benefit SCI. If the debt were indeed written off, SCI would not have received any consideration in return. SCI last year extended a S$2 billion subordinated loan to SMM, of which the S$1.5 billion amount has been drawn down, amid the prolonged and severe downturn in the offshore and marine industry.  The Covid-19 pandemic and the oil price collapse worsened the situation this year, and thus SMM expects losses to continue in the foreseeable quarters.  &ldquo The settlement of the subordinated loan through the rights issue substantially recapitalises SMM&rsquo s business, materially reducing its debt servicing obligations and putting it in a strong position to ride out the current crisis as well as enhancing its competitiveness in the sector,&rdquo SCI said. It added that the settlement also provides value to SCI, in the form of SMM shares. All SCI shareholders will benefit as well, as they will get the flexibility to calibrate their holdings in both companies once there is a clean demerger of SMM after the loan settlement and distribution. BALANCE SHEET Sias argued that SCI&rsquo s reduced debt post-transaction may be driven by accounting treatment rather than expected economic improvements to its business. In response, SCI pointed out that a deconsolidation of SMM will bring &ldquo tangible&rdquo benefits, as the improved debt position will open opportunities for more debt financing, and is not simply accounting treatment. If the transaction goes through, SCI will no longer need to set aside the remaining S$0.5 billion commitment under the S$2 billion subordinated loan, given that this remaining commitment will be cancelled. &ldquo New demand patterns emerging in the energy sector require us to focus on competing effectively and developing more sustainable business models,&rdquo SCI said on Wednesday. With a less constrained balance sheet, SCI will be better placed to pursue some of the opportunities to serve Asian markets where there is burgeoning demand for sustainable solutions, it added. The expected improvements in SCI&rsquo s financial metrics - including the earnings per share, return on equity and net debt-to-Ebitda (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortisation) ratio - will provide headroom for more resources to be made available, such as through the raising of more debt. With an increased strategic focus on the energy and urban pillars after the proposed distribution, SCI will be able to allocate capital and resources solely to these businesses, it said. For instance, in the renewable energy sector, the company will be able to leverage innovative technologies to compete and grow. SCI also replied that the demerger will deliver a &ldquo clearer investment proposition&rdquo to its shareholders, and this may lead to a positive re-rating of SCI&rsquo s equity value and appeal to equity investors focused on the energy and urban space. Sias had asked for specifics on the expected improvement to shareholder value when SCI transforms into a focused energy and urban company.  SCI and SMM will seek their shareholders&rsquo approval for the transaction at extraordinary general meetings, which are expected to take place around end-August and early September. |
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josemmm123
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22-Jul-2020 19:07
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To earn this 30+ cents , u have to wait at least 1 mth until end of August and the deal has to be approved (super high chance). U need to have enough cash or cpf to hold at least 2 mths.
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josemmm123
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22-Jul-2020 19:05
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Assuming SCI to trade 1.75 CE (Cum entitlement), the share price will drop once it goes XE, adjusted for the free SCM shares. Assuming 1.75 trading price CE, so upon XE, the share price will drop to around 80-90 cents after adjusting for the free SCM shares. BUT 80-90 cents for SCI is so super cheap that 1.75 trading price CE is not realistics. The share price has to reach at least $2+ CE so that after adjusting for the free SCM shares upon XE (ex entitlemen), SCI share price will trade at a respectable $1.20-$1.40. So the only way to achieve the above is for the share price of SCI to trade at $2+ during CE. So if u buy now at $1.75, u looking at a potential profit of 35 cents when it trades CE becos share price during CE will most likely be above $2.
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ghetto
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22-Jul-2020 19:00
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Yes, that is the correct understanding going forward. The earlier explanation by other forumner if i may say is not right to look at Sembcorp share price.
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josemmm123
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22-Jul-2020 18:58
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oh.. what i mean is if u buy at 1.75 now... you are effectively paying 80+ cents for SCI after u sell off ur SCM free shares. Eg: Assuming I bought 10 lots SCI at 1.75 so total capital = $17500. After demerger, I have 10 lots SCI and 45 lots SCM. Assuming SCM trades at 20 cents, I sell off my 45 lots SCM which means I get back $9000. So actually I only paying $17500 - $9000 = $8500 for my 10 lots of SCI which means I bought SCI at 85 cents. Then after demerger, SCI will be viewed favourably, so no way it will trading below $1. So assuming it trades at $1.20, ur profit would be 35 cents cos u bought ur SCI at 85 cents (after selling ur SCM free shares).  
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michaeltan
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22-Jul-2020 18:21
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It is not works this way. I think SCI share price may not drop and may gradually go up instead. This is because now the share price is dragged down by SCM.  The 4500 SCM is considered as bonus for SCI share holders. This bonus in specie is derrived from $1.5 billion loan to SCM. There is no share dilution of SCI and the fundamental is unchanged and perhaps better without SCM.
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josemmm123
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22-Jul-2020 18:08
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Even if it goes under. 18 cents for example. 4.5 free SCM shares at 18 cents =  81 cents. so your SCI = 1.75 -  81  = 94 cents for a blue chip energy  + utilitity  company is cheap too..  Anything below $1 for SCI without the  drag  of SCM  is super cheap. 
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