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famouspinky Supreme	13-Feb-2019 12:23        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	For acquisitions of sites on/after 6 Jul 2018, housing developers are subject to 30% ABSD of which, 25% ABSD may be remitted upfront subject to conditions below. The other 5% ABSD is non-remittable and remains payable within 14 days from the date of acquisition famouspinky      ( Date: 13-Feb-2019 12:16) Posted: The developer shall sell all units within 2 years of TOp. Penalty being 8% 1st year. 16% 2nd year.. 24% pA ....
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famouspinky Supreme	13-Feb-2019 12:16        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The developer shall sell all units within 2 years of TOp. Penalty being 8% 1st year. 16% 2nd year.. 24% pA ....
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famouspinky Supreme	13-Feb-2019 12:06        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	We learnt from Mr market. Don't be greedy. famouspinky      ( Date: 13-Feb-2019 12:05) Posted: https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/developers-race-beat-absd-deadline famouspinky      ( Date: 13-Feb-2019 12:01) Posted: Will developer take the Risk? https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/real-estate/braddell-view-en-bloc-signing-hits-80-consent
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famouspinky Supreme	13-Feb-2019 12:05        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/developers-race-beat-absd-deadline famouspinky      ( Date: 13-Feb-2019 12:01) Posted: Will developer take the Risk? https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/real-estate/braddell-view-en-bloc-signing-hits-80-consent
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famouspinky Supreme	13-Feb-2019 12:01        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Will developer take the Risk? https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/real-estate/braddell-view-en-bloc-signing-hits-80-consent
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famouspinky Supreme	13-Feb-2019 11:29        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What has EDB done now compared to LKY time? Without internet some more. That I called passion. Now I call politics. Macro play politics , micro, not to say. Huh what is it? I don't understand had become so common nowadays. Our grand parents will give us a slap. huathuat88888      ( Date: 13-Feb-2019 10:37) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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famouspinky Supreme	13-Feb-2019 10:04        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Unless our gament is effecient in getting work done locally we will be left out in bull or bear market. 3rd world is catching up fast. Can we deduct the incumbents pay to make them work harder and cleverer? I hope so. How can any political leaders be gd in economics? Only a good business man can . Lol
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famouspinky Supreme	13-Feb-2019 09:42        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It's the same treatment for stocks. Look at jb custom development. The way msia reclaimed the land near the custom. Trying to hitch on SG property prices? Jb is far diff from Shenzhen. kL is the capital. Looking on the macro perspective, it will only be a passing wind. Qanghoo      ( Date: 13-Feb-2019 08:32) Posted: I think no need super long.  Prop investment in territories trying to squeeze land out of the sea, it' s a no brainer why prices will always be supported n volatility n sleepless nights  are far far less than equity investment.  Goldfinger      ( Date: 13-Feb-2019 08:17) Posted: In the super long haul - SG prop better than SG stocks I think
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Qanghoo Supreme	13-Feb-2019 08:32        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think no need super long.  Prop investment in territories trying to squeeze land out of the sea, it' s a no brainer why prices will always be supported n volatility n sleepless nights  are far far less than equity investment.  Goldfinger      ( Date: 13-Feb-2019 08:17) Posted: In the super long haul - SG prop better than SG stocks I think. famouspinky      ( Date: 13-Feb-2019 07:30) Posted: Where? No such thing. Property investor pushing down risk takers? 2 different directions / objectives. That's why there's a dyodd clause every time
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Goldfinger Supreme	13-Feb-2019 08:17        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	In the super long haul - SG prop better than SG stocks I think. famouspinky      ( Date: 13-Feb-2019 07:30) Posted: Where? No such thing. Property investor pushing down risk takers? 2 different directions / objectives. That's why there's a dyodd clause every time. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:49) Posted: My landed prop value gone up almost 3 times since 2008 crash
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famouspinky Supreme	13-Feb-2019 07:30        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Where? No such thing. Property investor pushing down risk takers? 2 different directions / objectives. That's why there's a dyodd clause every time. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:49) Posted: My landed prop value gone up almost 3 times since 2008 crash. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:47) Posted: Prop Plunges are usually short lived - but the rises last for years
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famouspinky Supreme	13-Feb-2019 07:24        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	👍 iinvestor      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:43) Posted: Totally agree. Days of property inflation may be gone as this govt struggles to keep it affordable (both HDB and private) to prevent losing votes. Increasing interest rates and min size constraints etc will keep prices in check. Someone told me property cycles run very long, maybe 20-30 years. Maybe we could be seeing a major downturn soon. Last one 1995 to1998 and the crash was devastating those who remember. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:31) Posted: And yet the young are now constrained by ABSD, LTV and TDSR. Sad. The opportunities we had in the past to make moolah from prop now no longer available for my future generation
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Goldfinger Supreme	12-Feb-2019 22:00        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The weird thing is that the best way to distract people from hungering for SG prop is to strengthen the stock market values. Hidden secret.
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Goldfinger Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:58        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	And almost everyone I know - rich or poor - wants to own more condos and prop for rental income in retirement. How to go down like that? nqing87      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:56) Posted: yea.. property hard to fall cos our population will always be growing.. in a finite land, with higher population, the price can only go uptrend.. what' s more we are brought up to think that property is a must have asset, and we are already made to believe that property is one investment asset to have.. things like housing, food, transport, etc, will never become cheaper than in the past due to inflation.. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:28) Posted: This is why the seasoned folks like me Trust most in the SG property market - the one thing that will rise together with inflation and growth. Look at SGX - still down compared to 10 years ago. Look at SG property market - each peak will be a higher peak
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nqing87 Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:56        nqing87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yea.. property hard to fall cos our population will always be growing.. in a finite land, with higher population, the price can only go uptrend.. what' s more we are brought up to think that property is a must have asset, and we are already made to believe that property is one investment asset to have.. things like housing, food, transport, etc, will never become cheaper than in the past due to inflation.. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:28) Posted: This is why the seasoned folks like me Trust most in the SG property market - the one thing that will rise together with inflation and growth. Look at SGX - still down compared to 10 years ago. Look at SG property market - each peak will be a higher peak. nqing87      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:17) Posted: yea.. retailers like me have to be cautious when investing a counter cos u never know if the balance sheet of a company is real or not.. and those that continue listing are those who need to keep sucking money from the market via placements etc.. the good ones dont need to continue listed since they dont need to raise cash for further growth.. recently a lot of failed newly listed IPO in terms of financial results (acromec, ayondo, clearbridge, jawala, SLB, synagie) and also some errors in balance sheet or compliance issues (kimly, no signboard, Y ventures).. many new IPOs also list cos the market sentiment towards the sector was good at that point in time.. listing to capitalise on good market sentiment is not the way to go as it hurts shareholders who has to endure the depressed price when the sentiment towards the sector cools down.. if the retail investors do not earn money and most gains goes to BB, then the market will have less retail participants and what will be left will be just the BB traders and funds.. eventually these BB will also go away to other market since there is no money to earn from retailers.. in short, sgx must do smth to instill the confidence back to the market.. dont allow listing of bloodsucking poor performance IPOs and also make sure no hanky panky going on with companie
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Goldfinger Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:55        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are quite right there - this is how the rich get richer.. Qanghoo      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:51) Posted: The embloc millionaires provide the support for even firmer increases going forward. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:49) Posted: My landed prop value gone up almost 3 times since 2008 crash
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nqing87 Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:52        nqing87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	nowadays the analysts are kind of mediocre in their tp calls.. they do have the financial backgrounds/education, but the way they come up with tp is usually dependent on market sentiment (or perhaps they are rewarded to write in this way).. when share price of a counter fall, they will shift their goalpost and lower the tp.. if share price goes up, they will shift the tp higher.. the valuation they give across counters/sectors are different and sentiment based.. analyst shouldnt be too focus on giving a tp call that match close to how the market will behave, but rather truly help investors find undervalue counter base on fundamentals, and be firmed in their tp once they set it.. just take electronic counters as example.. few mths ago when the sector is doing good, analyst has a tp based on p/e ratio say 12.. but nowadays u see their goalpost shifted and lower their valuation to around 10 p/e.. even within counters of same sector, some tp call are value differently.. eg venture which many analysts still set tp base on a higher p/e, while smaller electronic counters are given a tp base on lower p/e valuation..  Qanghoo      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:36) Posted: What to do.  No imagination to improve interest n/or liquidity.  So much so that over time more n more listed coys here opt to quit.  Better still, instead of concentrating on analysing stocks for what they are worth, the in thing for ar*ehole anal-yeast these days is  to compete  to tikam  on potential privatisation candidates.  That, in effect, is like saying ' yep, we all know, one by one stocks are gonna  close shop until there' s no one left' .  N then ..... what' s left is a superfluous pool of precious  talent who will be left jobless without the bourse to manage.  nqing87      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:17) Posted: yea.. retailers like me have to be cautious when investing a counter cos u never know if the balance sheet of a company is real or not.. and those that continue listing are those who need to keep sucking money from the market via placements etc.. the good ones dont need to continue listed since they dont need to raise cash for further growth.. recently a lot of failed newly listed IPO in terms of financial results (acromec, ayondo, clearbridge, jawala, SLB, synagie) and also some errors in balance sheet or compliance issues (kimly, no signboard, Y ventures).. many new IPOs also list cos the market sentiment towards the sector was good at that point in time.. listing to capitalise on good market sentiment is not the way to go as it hurts shareholders who has to endure the depressed price when the sentiment towards the sector cools down.. if the retail investors do not earn money and most gains goes to BB, then the market will have less retail participants and what will be left will be just the BB traders and funds.. eventually these BB will also go away to other market since there is no money to earn from retailers.. in short, sgx must do smth to instill the confidence back to the market.. dont allow listing of bloodsucking poor performance IPOs and also make sure no hanky panky going on with companie
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Qanghoo Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:51        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The embloc millionaires provide the support for even firmer increases going forward. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:49) Posted: My landed prop value gone up almost 3 times since 2008 crash. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:47) Posted: Prop Plunges are usually short lived - but the rises last for years
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Qanghoo Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:49        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Or is it a struggle to make it more unreacheable.  I don' t need to remember property crashes.  All I know is if there' s a crash, the aftermath is an even more spectacular rocket.  iinvestor      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:43) Posted: Totally agree. Days of property inflation may be gone as this govt struggles to keep it affordable (both HDB and private) to prevent losing votes. Increasing interest rates and min size constraints etc will keep prices in check. Someone told me property cycles run very long, maybe 20-30 years. Maybe we could be seeing a major downturn soon. Last one 1995 to1998 and the crash was devastating those who remember. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:31) Posted: And yet the young are now constrained by ABSD, LTV and TDSR. Sad. The opportunities we had in the past to make moolah from prop now no longer available for my future generation
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Goldfinger Supreme	12-Feb-2019 21:49        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My landed prop value gone up almost 3 times since 2008 crash. Goldfinger      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:47) Posted: Prop Plunges are usually short lived - but the rises last for years. iinvestor      ( Date: 12-Feb-2019 21:43) Posted: Totally agree. Days of property inflation may be gone as this govt struggles to keep it affordable (both HDB and private) to prevent losing votes. Increasing interest rates and min size constraints etc will keep prices in check. Someone told me property cycles run very long, maybe 20-30 years. Maybe we could be seeing a major downturn soon. Last one 1995 to1998 and the crash was devastating those who remember
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