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Qanghoo
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28-Apr-2015 15:11
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Apologies.  Got the figure in my mind was PA' s.  Anyway, I think the figure is 3.7 bil.  As for the Ngs, one version explained to me is,  sometimes, major  shareholders control px through proxies. 
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Leongsan
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28-Apr-2015 14:33
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CORRECTION 20% not 8 bill but 3,7bill |
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Leongsan
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28-Apr-2015 14:30
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you think the Ngs cannot be included in your retail free float cal? They have money? lol |
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Qanghoo
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28-Apr-2015 13:38
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20% of 8 bil = 1,600,000,000 share floating around.  Anyway, 3Q15 results shd see significant debt reduction n interest cost savings.  CPF also have relatively large quota of Peruvian anchovy catch.  Fishmeal px hover around 1900 to 2000+ USD/mt over last six mths.  Peruvian TAC had also increased recently.  EN shd be cleared by next yr n TAC shd increase further.  Although fishmeal px likely to decrease with bigger anchovy catch, CFG shd see good profits over next two yrs.  Promising longterm buy at current px.  If can buy at 18c better still. 
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edwinjup
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28-Apr-2015 10:30
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Agree that those bbs who bought the rights below 1c wish to sell high...And they also wish retail investors to help them to make profit....20%public float for a big market cap also a lots...let hopes bbs willing to pump up more for retailer to make decent profit...cheers...long term look bright as loan reduce...cheers.  
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nngeeh
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28-Apr-2015 10:12
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The public float is just 20%, and there are few price gaps on the chart after the announcement when the price was pressed down to lowest 0.73. i believe those who have brought the rights less than 1c will want the price to fill those gaps before starting the offload it. They may even push it further north. If you look at Pacific Andes' s price, after the right shares start trading, it shot up 20% before the distribution occurs.
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edwinjup
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28-Apr-2015 09:58
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I am not keen to short any counter in sgx..all Kanna control....just feel that those bought right price at below 1c making a big fortune....their cost is below 18c...and can easily sell....huat la
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nngeeh
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28-Apr-2015 09:54
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Hi Bro edwinjup, The right share will start trading on 30 April. Are you planning to short this counter? I think China is still a sound counter. The reason for raising the right issues is to redeem the copenica bond, and they have already secured the cash to do so when Pacific Andes completed their right issue. As the substantial shareholder owns 80% (but Carylel didn' t take up the 10% of their rights), this exercise is a formallity to transfer the cash raised  by Pacific Andes to China Fish. I believe their price was pressed down recently by BB to buy the rights at a super cheap price. Their NAV is more than 0.40 USD which consist of the valuable Peru Fishing Permit. Even if the price might come down slightly when the right shares start trading, i doubt it' ll go back to the price we seen during the rights exercise. Furthermore, i didn' t any consolidation announcement issued by them when their share price is below 0.2 to meet the min 0.2 price. I believe the price will be supported above 0.2.
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edwinjup
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27-Apr-2015 17:43
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When the right share listed?? | ||||
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moron101
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27-Apr-2015 17:33
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Chinese shares very bullish haa? 30 cents coming soon? | ||||
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Leongsan
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25-Apr-2015 12:12
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April 24, 2015, 3:41 pm
With contribution from  Jeanine Stewart BRUSSELS, Belgium  -- Trading of Peruvian fishmeal market is on hold as market players are waiting for the price to settle down and focusing on wrapping up fishing efforts, Peruvian exporters told  Undercurrent News. Amid fears of new Kelvin waves approaching the Peruvian coast, producers are hoping that the first season' s anchovy quota  will be fully caught by May, sources toldUndercurrent  during  Seafood Expo Global  in Brussels this week. Prices for super prime fishmeal out of Peru  had jumped from levels of$1,600  per metric ton at the start of last year' s season to  $2,400/t,  FOB Peru, in early November. Exporters are putting the  focus on catching the entire quota  of this year' s first anchovy season, rather than on closing sales, said sources. This is due to concerns that  new warm Kelvin waves  could soon be reaching the Peruvian coast, which could affect fishing by causing anchovy to migrate  to cooler, deeper waters.
" We are now more focused on fishing anchovy than on selling fishmeal," a major Peruvian fishmeal exporter told  Undercurrentduring the Brussels seafood show  (recap all our  coverage on  our bloghere). " If we fish all the TAC [total allowable catches, set at2.58 million metric tons  for the first season of 2015] there will be a price correction downwards, but if new Kelvin waves affect catches prices will keep firm,"   said this exporter. " We don' t want to take risks and close at a price now, as we don' t know the development of the fishing season. We hope to finish the fishing season in May, a month earlier than it is supposed to end, as catches are good so far," he said. According to this exporter, Peruvian fishmeal companies have already produced about 250,000t of fishmeal from the current season. The anchovy  fleet had caught  about 32%  or 800,000t of the TAC in the first 11 days of fishing, since the season started on April 9. Out of this production, about 70,000t of fishmeal have been pre-sold in March at a price of $2,000/t for  super prime FOB Peru, three major Peruvian sellers told  Undercurrent. " The price of this season is going to depend on how the fishing goes. Now it is performing well, so buyers are on hold waiting for a price correction," said a second major fishmeal exporter. " Personally, I think there will be a price correction in the range of $1,900-$1,850/t. I understand there is a good farming season in China and stocks are scarce, so they should start buying soon," the source said. Another two  Peruvian fishmeal exporters said Chinese demand was expected to be activated soon on low stocks. " The market is not active yet, but it will be soon as we know that China is going to need super prime fishmeal, and Peru is the only country capable of supplying this type of fishmeal in large volumes," the first fishmeal exporter said. The negative impact of the oceanographic conditions on the anchovy stocks linked to  El Nino  last year saw  fishmeal prices soar. With normal fishing conditions, fishmeal prices would have been around $1,600/t for quotas of 2.5m metric tons, the second fishmeal exporter said. |
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buysellbuysell
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23-Apr-2015 10:32
Yells: "someone please sell down low so that others can buy low" |
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this counter have rights issue and also near term there maybe more shares trading ahead,  considering now at 0.18x, other counters maybe more attractive in terms of pricing,  example now vallianze at 0.07, jaya at 0.057, GMG at 0.079 and sinoconstruction at 0.045, which is more attractive and have more potential upside? also do read and consider the company fundamentals, products they carry and supply and also the demand for their products. pricing wise definitely lower price have more attraction |
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think2profit
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23-Apr-2015 09:41
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Still a long way for China Fish to resolve those hurdle. Am in no hurry yet. Meanwhile just  watch anxiety in the market whenever bad news strike... |
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hotelgrand
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20-Apr-2015 11:26
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Pacific Ades(parent co of CFG) and Del Monte yes initally were pressed down to near their rights price but noe more than recovered,CFG will turn around with the rights issues ,its gearing will be at comfortable level,another US$150mil on the way from its termination of long term supply contract with a Russian co...even Mano has high regards now and fully support CFG at the latest EGM,of course if Carlye rights were taken up by a third party this will boost the confidence in CFG-for the long haul not for speculative short term trade-the acquisiton of Copenica was too big for CFG to swallow and once the troublesome bond issue with Copenica is resolved with proceeds from this rights issues all will go well..in fact at the EGM the quyota for fishing has gone up in certain restricted country as announced by CEO and coupled with lower oil prices(fuel for their trawling fleet) all these bode well for CFG
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AldarSorouh
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20-Apr-2015 10:12
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Dear sir, why don' t you check what happened to Pac Andes and Del Monte' s stock price when the rights shares started trading?
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AldarSorouh
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20-Apr-2015 10:08
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Carlyle rights taken up by a top tier China Insurance firm. Wait for announcement.  
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edwinjup
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20-Apr-2015 10:06
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Cook up to encourage people buy the right share at 17.3c....?? Like pacific André s....??beware when rights share start trading.... |
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Leongsan
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20-Apr-2015 09:38
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Carlyle rights? is it sold or not and take up or not? Pumping ?  carlyle rights taken up will raise price. Not taken up, someone will control    |
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domanic
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19-Apr-2015 21:11
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Look like SinoC etc haha
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Qanghoo
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19-Apr-2015 20:50
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No news.  When the chng kays want to pump, they just do.  It helps of course if the stocks in play are undervalued, like CFG.  But also bear in mind that when they want to force px of stocks down, there is also no news.  They just keep pressing prices down.
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