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happyharvest Elite	07-Feb-2017 23:28        happyharvest About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If they revise their offer price, more may sell. Since there is potential future growth in HMC, it is better to hold on for while and ride that wave teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 23:24) Posted: I doubt many wanting to sell at 4.2 cents to Lippo. Some other BBs players may take this opportunities to up stakes n prices n along the way un-load also. happyharvest      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 23:20) Posted: Thanks. Yes. It will be converted to Mandatory offer once they acquire > 90% of the shares.
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 23:24        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I doubt many wanting to sell at 4.2 cents to Lippo. Some other BBs players may take this opportunities to up stakes n prices n along the way un-load also. happyharvest      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 23:20) Posted: Thanks. Yes. It will be converted to Mandatory offer once they acquire > 90% of the shares.  teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 23:18) Posted: Just for every to share infomation with....Thk. And decide for themeself.  http://pdf.reuters.com/sgxnews/sgxnews.asp?i=43059c3bf0e37541& u=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20170207:nSNF752h Lippo offering is  VOLUNTARY CONDITIONAL CASH OFFER....n not a  Mandatory Offer.
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happyharvest Elite	07-Feb-2017 23:23        happyharvest About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	actually I don' t mind hold on for a while if the share price continue to go higher and higher teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 23:21) Posted: Me too, the high the better. Well. I' m not a math expertise, hopefully a better deal can be offer. TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:20) Posted: good point,,, so effective offer price around 8.4 cts?  Am I right?
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 23:21        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Me too, the high the better. Well. I' m not a math expertise, hopefully a better deal can be offer. TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:20) Posted: good point,,, so effective offer price around 8.4 cts?  Am I right? teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:09) Posted: Convertible Notes to be issued, (if and when fully issued), would have a significant dilutive shareholdings of Shareholders. Assuming all notes of S$70M are exchanged for CN B within 6-mths from date of issue of the notes and immediately converted into conversion shares, up to 2,218,502,511. Conversion shares may be issued pursuant to the conversion of the Convertible Notes (if and when fully issued), it representing approximately 90.17% of the existing issued share capital of the Coy of 2,460,234,183 Shares, or approximately 47.42% of the enlarged share capital of the Company.  This would result in a significant dilution of the existing shareholdings of Shareholders as further illustrated. As such, Lippo and LCR are of the view that the terms of the Convertible Notes appear onerous, may be detrimental and not be in the best interest of the Coy in light of other possible financing alternatives. Thus, offering shareholders who concur with the views of the Offeror an opportunity to exit on a more attractive terms.
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happyharvest Elite	07-Feb-2017 23:20        happyharvest About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks. Yes. It will be converted to Mandatory offer once they acquire > 90% of the shares.  teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 23:18) Posted: Just for every to share infomation with....Thk. And decide for themeself.  http://pdf.reuters.com/sgxnews/sgxnews.asp?i=43059c3bf0e37541& u=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20170207:nSNF752h Lippo offering is  VOLUNTARY CONDITIONAL CASH OFFER....n not a  Mandatory Offer. happyharvest      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 23:12) Posted: teeth53, are you talking to yourself or you replying to someone I can' t see on the forum? haha
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 23:18        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just for every to share infomation with....Thk. And decide for themeself.  http://pdf.reuters.com/sgxnews/sgxnews.asp?i=43059c3bf0e37541& u=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20170207:nSNF752h Lippo offering is  VOLUNTARY CONDITIONAL CASH OFFER....n not a  Mandatory Offer. happyharvest      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 23:12) Posted: teeth53, are you talking to yourself or you replying to someone I can' t see on the forum? haha teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 23:09) Posted: Let see got others BBs mkt forces coming in with another 5% or more bo?. If there is. Mkt forces will have to buy up from open / daily trading volume n other big share holders.
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happyharvest Elite	07-Feb-2017 23:12        happyharvest About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	teeth53, are you talking to yourself or you replying to someone I can' t see on the forum? haha teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 23:09) Posted: Let see got others BBs mkt forces coming in with another 5% or more bo?. If there is. Mkt forces will have to buy up from open / daily trading volume n other big share holders. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:40) Posted: Let see how thing work out?. Hopefully mkt forces can buy up by more BBs n or other players.
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 23:09        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Let see got others BBs mkt forces coming in with another 5% or more bo?. If there is. Mkt forces will have to buy up from open / daily trading volume n other big share holders. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:40) Posted: Let see how thing work out?. Hopefully mkt forces can buy up by more BBs n or other players. TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:20) Posted: good point,,, so effective offer price around 8.4 cts?  Am I right?
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 23:05        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Then Lippo offer would mean they need to up their prices attractiveness, to sweet it n make it a done deal...With Gateway Fund I nngeeh      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:49) Posted: In the announcement, they are extending it to the gateway (conversion bond). If gateway accept, lippo   will get another approximately 45% of the total shares. With their 13%, they will have more than 50%. Maybe this offer is meant for gateway ... they can give the loan and immediately convert and accept this offer to earn. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:35) Posted: Lippo limited is such a very big orgnisation n or group in not in flavour of such deal by gateway.. Yup. Think so. As such deal with Gateway hasten such offering by Lippo..
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happyharvest Elite	07-Feb-2017 23:05        happyharvest About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I hope they will not be able to acquire more than 90% of the shares  nngeeh      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:49) Posted: In the announcement, they are extending it to the gateway (conversion bond). If gateway accept, lippo   will get another approximately 45% of the total shares. With their 13%, they will have more than 50%. Maybe this offer is meant for gateway ... they can give the loan and immediately convert and accept this offer to earn. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:35) Posted: Lippo limited is such a very big orgnisation n or group in not in flavour of such deal by gateway.. Yup. Think so. As such deal with Gateway hasten such offering by Lippo..
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 23:00        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Issued and paid-up share capital of the Coy comprises 2,460,234,183 Shares The Coy had on 17-Jan-2017, 19-Jan-2017 and 6-Feb-2017 announced the proposed issuance of notes pursuant to a subscription agreement entered into on 16 Jan 2017 with GW Active Limited (Gateway Fund I). It comprising S$10mil in convertible notes and S$60mil in non-convertible notes, which may subsequently be exchanged for fully convertible notes. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:24) Posted: Were wondering How Gateway Fund react....will they try some counter offer or something more attractive?. TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:20) Posted: good point,,, so effective offer price around 8.4 cts?  Am I right?
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nngeeh Veteran	07-Feb-2017 22:49        nngeeh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	In the announcement, they are extending it to the gateway (conversion bond). If gateway accept, lippo   will get another approximately 45% of the total shares. With their 13%, they will have more than 50%. Maybe this offer is meant for gateway ... they can give the loan and immediately convert and accept this offer to earn. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:35) Posted: Lippo limited is such a very big orgnisation n or group in not in flavour of such deal by gateway.. Yup. Think so. As such deal with Gateway hasten such offering by Lippo.. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 21:48) Posted: Lippo as a SSH is quick to offer n maybe due to not in flavour..(They got the strength n money.) The deal look business as usual, giving control to Gateway Fund I thorugh Ms Chan acting for HMC.
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 22:40        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Let see how thing work out?. Hopefully mkt forces can buy up by more BBs n or other players. TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:20) Posted: good point,,, so effective offer price around 8.4 cts?  Am I right? teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:09) Posted: Convertible Notes to be issued, (if and when fully issued), would have a significant dilutive shareholdings of Shareholders. Assuming all notes of S$70M are exchanged for CN B within 6-mths from date of issue of the notes and immediately converted into conversion shares, up to 2,218,502,511. Conversion shares may be issued pursuant to the conversion of the Convertible Notes (if and when fully issued), it representing approximately 90.17% of the existing issued share capital of the Coy of 2,460,234,183 Shares, or approximately 47.42% of the enlarged share capital of the Company.  This would result in a significant dilution of the existing shareholdings of Shareholders as further illustrated. As such, Lippo and LCR are of the view that the terms of the Convertible Notes appear onerous, may be detrimental and not be in the best interest of the Coy in light of other possible financing alternatives. Thus, offering shareholders who concur with the views of the Offeror an opportunity to exit on a more attractive terms.
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 22:35        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lippo limited is such a very big orgnisation n or group in not in flavour of such deal by gateway.. Yup. Think so. As such deal with Gateway hasten such offering by Lippo.. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 21:48) Posted: Lippo as a SSH is quick to offer n maybe due to not in flavour..(They got the strength n money.) The deal look business as usual, giving control to Gateway Fund I thorugh Ms Chan acting for HMC. happyharvest      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 20:42) Posted: they will have more takers if the offer price is ~0.06 - 0.08. I think most of them are stucked around there based on chart
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 22:24        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Were wondering How Gateway Fund react....will they try some counter offer or something more attractive?. TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:20) Posted: good point,,, so effective offer price around 8.4 cts?  Am I right? teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:09) Posted: Convertible Notes to be issued, (if and when fully issued), would have a significant dilutive shareholdings of Shareholders. Assuming all notes of S$70M are exchanged for CN B within 6-mths from date of issue of the notes and immediately converted into conversion shares, up to 2,218,502,511. Conversion shares may be issued pursuant to the conversion of the Convertible Notes (if and when fully issued), it representing approximately 90.17% of the existing issued share capital of the Coy of 2,460,234,183 Shares, or approximately 47.42% of the enlarged share capital of the Company.  This would result in a significant dilution of the existing shareholdings of Shareholders as further illustrated. As such, Lippo and LCR are of the view that the terms of the Convertible Notes appear onerous, may be detrimental and not be in the best interest of the Coy in light of other possible financing alternatives. Thus, offering shareholders who concur with the views of the Offeror an opportunity to exit on a more attractive terms.
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nngeeh Veteran	07-Feb-2017 22:21        nngeeh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think Lippo is trying to stop issuing of convertible bond to Gateway.... and they can' t do so without being a majority shareholder. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:09) Posted: Convertible Notes to be issued, (if and when fully issued), would have a significant dilutive shareholdings of Shareholders. Assuming all notes of S$70M are exchanged for CN B within 6-mths from date of issue of the notes and immediately converted into conversion shares, up to 2,218,502,511. Conversion shares may be issued pursuant to the conversion of the Convertible Notes (if and when fully issued), it representing approximately 90.17% of the existing issued share capital of the Coy of 2,460,234,183 Shares, or approximately 47.42% of the enlarged share capital of the Company.  This would result in a significant dilution of the existing shareholdings of Shareholders as further illustrated. As such, Lippo and LCR are of the view that the terms of the Convertible Notes appear onerous, may be detrimental and not be in the best interest of the Coy in light of other possible financing alternatives. Thus, offering shareholders who concur with the views of the Offeror an opportunity to exit on a more attractive terms. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 20:32) Posted: And this ..... what happen to HME n HMC, to be control by Gateway Fund I???. Healthway Medical Corp (HMC), recently entered into a deal with a new investor, Cayman-based Gateway Fund I. The arrangement could give Gateway significant control over how HMC is managed.  HMC wants to raise $70m from Gateway by issuing convertible bonds that can be swapped for up to 90.17 per cent of HMC' s existing share capital, or 47.4 per cent of its enlarged share capital.  Size of conversion is still subject to shareholders' vote of approval, but notes have other unusual features. For eg:Gateway would get the right to nominate two non-executive directors to HMC board and pick out a chief financial officer.  Another eg: HMC would also need Gateway' s consent before entering into " any material transactions, undertakings or corporate actions" , including the appointment or removal of its chief executive officer.  HMC president Veronica Chan, who is equivalent to the CEO, did not immediately respond to an e-mail query on the notes issue, but HMC. Veronica Chan has said that the move is necessary to generate working capital and address.
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 22:20        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Offeror rules. Offeror parties acting in concert with it to above 90% of issued Shares (excluding Shares held in treasury). SGX-ST may suspend Shares trading in the share markets until it is satisfied that @least 10% of issued Shares (excluding Shares held in treasury) are held by at least 200 Shareholders who are members of the public. If Offeror succeeds in receiving acceptances exceeding 90% of issued Shares (excluding Shares held in treasury), thus causing the percentage of issued Shares (excluding Shares held in treasury) held in public hands to fall below 10%. SGX-ST will suspend trading of the Shares only at the close of the Offer, if percentage of Shares held in public hands falls below 10%. Coy must, as soon as possible (ASAP), announce that fact and SGX-ST may suspend trading of all the Shares on the SGX-ST. SGX-ST may allow the Coy a period of three (3) months, or such longer period
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TechnicalTrader Master	07-Feb-2017 22:20        TechnicalTrader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Traders perform TA using TI. Success rely on Technique used"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	good point,,, so effective offer price around 8.4 cts?  Am I right? teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 22:09) Posted: Convertible Notes to be issued, (if and when fully issued), would have a significant dilutive shareholdings of Shareholders. Assuming all notes of S$70M are exchanged for CN B within 6-mths from date of issue of the notes and immediately converted into conversion shares, up to 2,218,502,511. Conversion shares may be issued pursuant to the conversion of the Convertible Notes (if and when fully issued), it representing approximately 90.17% of the existing issued share capital of the Coy of 2,460,234,183 Shares, or approximately 47.42% of the enlarged share capital of the Company.  This would result in a significant dilution of the existing shareholdings of Shareholders as further illustrated. As such, Lippo and LCR are of the view that the terms of the Convertible Notes appear onerous, may be detrimental and not be in the best interest of the Coy in light of other possible financing alternatives. Thus, offering shareholders who concur with the views of the Offeror an opportunity to exit on a more attractive terms. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 20:32) Posted: And this ..... what happen to HME n HMC, to be control by Gateway Fund I???. Healthway Medical Corp (HMC), recently entered into a deal with a new investor, Cayman-based Gateway Fund I. The arrangement could give Gateway significant control over how HMC is managed.  HMC wants to raise $70m from Gateway by issuing convertible bonds that can be swapped for up to 90.17 per cent of HMC' s existing share capital, or 47.4 per cent of its enlarged share capital.  Size of conversion is still subject to shareholders' vote of approval, but notes have other unusual features. For eg:Gateway would get the right to nominate two non-executive directors to HMC board and pick out a chief financial officer.  Another eg: HMC would also need Gateway' s consent before entering into " any material transactions, undertakings or corporate actions" , including the appointment or removal of its chief executive officer.  HMC president Veronica Chan, who is equivalent to the CEO, did not immediately respond to an e-mail query on the notes issue, but HMC. Veronica Chan has said that the move is necessary to generate working capital and address.
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 22:09        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Convertible Notes to be issued, (if and when fully issued), would have a significant dilutive shareholdings of Shareholders. Assuming all notes of S$70M are exchanged for CN B within 6-mths from date of issue of the notes and immediately converted into conversion shares, up to 2,218,502,511. Conversion shares may be issued pursuant to the conversion of the Convertible Notes (if and when fully issued), it representing approximately 90.17% of the existing issued share capital of the Coy of 2,460,234,183 Shares, or approximately 47.42% of the enlarged share capital of the Company.  This would result in a significant dilution of the existing shareholdings of Shareholders as further illustrated. As such, Lippo and LCR are of the view that the terms of the Convertible Notes appear onerous, may be detrimental and not be in the best interest of the Coy in light of other possible financing alternatives. Thus, offering shareholders who concur with the views of the Offeror an opportunity to exit on a more attractive terms. teeth53      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 20:32) Posted: And this ..... what happen to HME n HMC, to be control by Gateway Fund I???. Healthway Medical Corp (HMC), recently entered into a deal with a new investor, Cayman-based Gateway Fund I. The arrangement could give Gateway significant control over how HMC is managed.  HMC wants to raise $70m from Gateway by issuing convertible bonds that can be swapped for up to 90.17 per cent of HMC' s existing share capital, or 47.4 per cent of its enlarged share capital.  Size of conversion is still subject to shareholders' vote of approval, but notes have other unusual features. For eg:Gateway would get the right to nominate two non-executive directors to HMC board and pick out a chief financial officer.  Another eg: HMC would also need Gateway' s consent before entering into " any material transactions, undertakings or corporate actions" , including the appointment or removal of its chief executive officer.  HMC president Veronica Chan, who is equivalent to the CEO, did not immediately respond to an e-mail query on the notes issue, but HMC. Veronica Chan has said that the move is necessary to generate working capital and address. TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 02-Feb-2017 20:55) Posted: Yesterday news. While activist investors are forcing International Healthway Corp (IHC) to undertake an internal audit of the medical property developer' s affairs, attention is now turning to the firm' s former parent company. Healthway Medical Corp (HMC), the clinic operator that spun off IHC, recently entered into a deal with a new investor, Cayman-based Gateway Fund I. The arrangement could give Gateway significant control over how HMC is managed. HMC wants to raise $70 million from Gateway by issuing convertible bonds that can be swapped for up to 90.17 per cent of HMC' s existing share capital, or 47.4 per cent of its enlarged share capital. The size of the conversion is still subject to shareholders' vote of approval, but the notes have other unusual features. For example, Gateway would get the right to nominate two non-executive directors to the HMC board and pick out a chief financial officer. HMC would also need Gateway' s consent before entering into " any material transactions, undertakings or corporate actions" , including the appointment or removal of its chief executive officer. HMC president Veronica Chan, who is equivalent to the CEO, did not immediately respond to an e-mail query on the notes issue, but HMC has said that the move is necessary to generate working capital and address " short-term liquidity needs" . The fund-raising comes relatively soon after HMC announced a share placement on Aug 29 to raise net proceeds of $3.75 million. It reportedly fully utilised these funds on Oct 25.   Notably, HMC, which made a net profit of $1.68 million in the year ending December 2015, is owed $64 million by Healthway Medical Enterprises (HME), which HMC refers to in its books as a non-related party, or " Party A" . HMC is owed a further $21 million by an unnamed " Party B" , and continued to extend to Party B $3.2 million in 2015 even after taking a $14.8 million impairment on Party B loans over the years. HMC now intends to acquire HME, using the $64 million in uncollected receivables as part of the purchase consideration, which is yet to be determined. HMC did not previously address questions from The Straits Times on how much of the $64 million would be recoverable. Another question on the minds of fund managers who have eyed HMC in the past is why it has continued to lend to Party A and Party B when impairments made over the years have cast doubts over these parties' ability to pay. Unless these parties share a common shareholder with HMC, the loans do not appear to benefit HMC, they say. Mr Eric Wong Ong Ming, who joined the board of HMC in May 2015, was the sole director of HME until he resigned in May 2015. He was also a former director of IHC. IHC and HMC also share a common largest shareholder, Mr Fan Kow Hin. Mr Fan has stepped down from senior positions at both companies, as well as at HME in recent years. Separately, Lippo China Resources, controlled by Indonesia' s Riady family, emerged at the end of December as a substantial shareholder of HMC with a 6.05 per cent stake. This, together with OUE' s 12.5 per cent stake in IHC, is likely to keep investors guessing at what' s next for both IHC and HMC. Shares of IHC, which, like HMC, have tumbled since their debut, have recently attracted the attention of heavyweight investors such as Oxley executives Ching Chiat Kwong and Eric Low, as well as OUE, stirring hopes that IHC can be turned around.
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Feb-2017 21:54        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Maybe. Just a starting point n is above 1 to 12 months premium as explained in SGX announcement.. As in very business, nothing to be a shame. If only others BBs players is willing to buy up at such a price. mrwise      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 21:42) Posted: Shame on them to make such an low offer! happyharvest      ( Date: 07-Feb-2017 20:42) Posted: they will have more takers if the offer price is ~0.06 - 0.08. I think most of them are stucked around there based on chart
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